Morrissey is a racist

No Churchill, no Beatles

I believe that's why some say he is "worse than Hitler and Stalin".

We'd all be singing in German, like Kraftwerk, if it wasn't for Churchill.

He's right that the two best Smiths releases are, in order, Louder Than Bombs and Strangeways, Here We Come. Other than that, nah.

Strangeways is mostly bullshit

yep

both Morrissey and Marr have said Strangeways is their favourite Smith's LP

clearly not the best judge of their own work

A Rush and a Push and the Land is Ours is the best song and is pretty impossible to listen to now and not interpret as a white power anthem

"I Started Something..." is a fabulous karaoke jam, and I dig "Stop Me..." and "I Won't Share You." That's that.

(xp) I thought it was about Ireland? I have no idea whether Morrissey supports Irish Republicanism or not tbf.

I mean it might be but read the lyrics in light of Moz now and there's certainly another interpretation

I mean obviously I was dumb enough to buy all his disassembling about Bengali or the Union Jack or National Front Disco, so now it's hard not to view it in different light

Yes, the lyrics do read a bit dodgy these days but I think it is inspired (however vaguely) by Irish republicanism.

think it's probably just the usual "Misfits" deal tbh

the ghost of troubled joe, y'know old joe from the troubles

anyhow, bostich by yello is a much better song about rushing and pushing amirite?

Inifnitely.

"I Started Something..." is a fabulous karaoke jam, and I dig "Stop Me..." and "I Won't Share You." That's that.

No love for "Death of a Disco Dancer'?

maybe in the next world

lol

Bummed and astounded to learn that there are thirty of these

& I enjoy morrissey & the smiths’s dozen good songs as much as anyone

considering that he ranked his more recent albums highest in a desperate attempt to get me to listen to them.

nice try moz, you racist fuck lol

but seriously, how disappointing.

the only songs on strangways I like are “stop me” and “I won’t share you”, the rest is boring as fuck

Girlfriend in a Coma is one of The Smiths' loveliest songs, and I Won't Share You is a great parting shot. It's a good album, but I would take the other studio albums and HoH over it.

Quite pleased that my favourite Smiths album is "The Smiths"

considering that he ranked his more recent albums highest in a desperate attempt to get me to listen to them.

nice try moz, you racist fuck lol

ha yeah I was like, huh, there's like 10 albums here I've either never even heard of or haven't heard, then I was like and yeah that's how that's going to stay

I was listening to some album on Spotify (the Cure, I think) and when it was over the service popped into related shuffle mode. So first up was JAMC's "April Skies," which was nice, and then it was "Everyday Is Like Sunday," and swear to god, my first reaction was, aw, this is a really nice song, it's a shame about all his bullshit, but I guess it's still sad that Morrissey's dead, because he did sing a lot of songs I like. And then it struck me that, wait a minute, he's actually not dead. He's just *functionally* dead.

looking forward to seeing him at Cruel World in May.

Me too.

fuck Morrissey with a pitchfork

josh proposes an interesting thought tho: what will be the collective response when he does die?

i know i'll be sad. but mostly because of what he became, so not really that different from now.

i still do like his old records. especially the stuff with vini reilly.

He was always like this, though. See: Panic

enh yeah i guess, but at least he's owning on it that record: "the music they play says nothing to me about my life."

(also one of the worst smiths songs, btw)

but mostly because of what he became, so not really that different from now.

i still do like his old records. especially the stuff with vini reilly.

"Bengali in Platforms" is on his first record with Reilly. It's not a question of becoming. (I still like the Smiths btw!)

yeah that's the thing. 'reggae is vile,' panic, bengali...it was always right there.

he's always been problematic and a shitty person. to deny that he became more so with age is purposely dense.

also adding the smiths to my list of "canon bands that are actually super boring and overrated and only have like two good songs"

(tried to revisit strangeways this past week after it came up in the controp thread and jesus christ it's boring)

Austin, have you read the 1986 Melody Maker interviewed linked here as "Morrissey discusses the black pop conspiracy and celibacy"?: https://mrmorrissey.tripod.com/interv/index.html

*interview

Big mouth strikes again.

It's like he has no right to take his um

NME 1985
Morrissey discusses his heroes and the sausage incident

Austin, have you read the 1986 Melody Maker interviewed linked here as "Morrissey discusses the black pop conspiracy and celibacy"?: https://mrmorrissey.tripod.com/interv/index.html

― The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, January 23, 2022 8:45 PM

he's always been problematic and a shitty person. to deny that he became more so with age is purposely dense.

stop. i agree with you guys. leave me alone.

Who are you calling "purposely dense", because it looks like that's directed towards the people who noticed Morrissey's racism before you did

damn that interview is terrible, i've seen those quote on their own before here and there but not the actual piece. people usually say "well they were taken out of context" but in this case i think they are even worse in context

"Well, he likes a great Martha and the Vandellas song" is all the praise I can muster.

My favorite thing about the interview is that the interviewer a couple of times is like "are you sure you don't want to take this less-racist lifeline I'm trying to throw you" and Morrissey is all "NOPE"

I know! like every answer