"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

Come on, Aaron, tell us what you really think.

Getting Paul Mason on to discuss Labour is like asking Harold Shipman to sermonise about self care. He’s talked nothing but utter gibberish for 18 months #newsnight https://t.co/r7OtsNVuKL

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) September 28, 2021

Starmer's reputation has taken a pounding among Britons this year (net scores shown)

Competence: -6 (down from +21 in Jan)
Likeable: -14 (down from +8)
Trustworthy: -14 (down from 0)
Decisive: -27 (down from +3)
Strong: -31 (down from +4)https://t.co/JWZAB9ellO pic.twitter.com/wfvHBhQVEG

— YouGov (@YouGov) September 29, 2021

no conference boost in the polling because the more time in the spotlight he get's the more it draws attention to what a despicable, unlikable, untrustworthy ... etc

oh that polling cuts off in July? Maybe his barnstorming conference speech will turn this slump around

"Go back to your constituencies and prepare for oblivion!" *conference rises as one*

We're ready.

Momentum has told supporters at Labour conference that any responses with chants during Starmer’s speech should be focus on £15 min wage and ten pledges, and “absolutely not on the previous leadership”.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) September 29, 2021

Fucking Momentum lol

Lammy being an idiot

We will not be making proposals that cannot be costed, the public need to know where the money is coming from.

Clearly it was the case at the last general election, we were coming up with policies like free broadband, policies on pensions for women, a four-day week, and the public were saying ‘how much is this going to cost’?

It was coming at the last minute, they felt confused and they didn’t feel able to trust us because of some of the issues that were dominating the party.

Keir is not going to make that mistake, things have to be costed.

Momentum has told supporters at Labour conference that during Starmer's speech they should hum quietly, consistently increasing in volume, pitch and intensity until he finishes and “absolutely not shout 'WET WIPE!' whenever he pauses for breath”.

I'm not going to make the mistake of defending Lammy again, sorry I ever did.

it was all fucking costed Lammy

people will just lie about anything won’t they?

Costing everything is going to kill us all.

"they didn’t feel able to trust us because of some of the issues that were dominating the party"

= because evil people were constantly lying about the party while people like DL weren't contradicting them.

Kberg only tweeting about the heckles and only that they are being thwarted. That's the only point of interest.

I stuck Keith’s speech on and made it as far as: when I was a fed, a woman got murdered and I shouted at someone that if I didn’t have time for to chat to their parents, what kind of cunt am I? Any way something came up and I had to rearrange (radio off)

Oh sorry there was a big round of applause he had to rearrange

Just catching up on this.

Former police officer Wayne Couzens in court for sentencing. Court hears he had police handcuffs, arrested her & used his knowledge of police Covid patrols to detain her.

— lucy manning (@lucymanning) September 29, 2021

Refers to the young women he recently met in Stoke who told him they dare not go to their high street alone: “they see more violence and fewer police… the Tories are letting you down. And I can promise you that will never happen under my leadership”

on the very day that horrific details from the Sarah Everard trial are leading, not that there is a good time for his "more cops" attempts to appeal to Tory voters.

lol what pic.twitter.com/Ke6IV4bZHL

— Agree to disagree 🍊 🍊 🍊 (@StefGotBooted) September 29, 2021

lol

Starmer getting conf to clap the line ‘we are patriots’ by linking it to supporting England players taking the knee. Clever again. The Times’s loss of Phil Collins is speechwriting’s gain. (Now they’re clapping NATO) #lab21

— gabyhinsliff (@gabyhinsliff) September 29, 2021

well take a look at him now

can't believe this is real https://t.co/mnYXigQp39

— UEFA SNIPER (@dreamboatslim) September 29, 2021

The trusty “Webster’s dictionary” gambit beloved of high school word-padders everywhere

I just want a nationality that isn't Kieth's

It really is Iain Duncan Smith all over again.

Starmer says ‘family and work’ are 'the two sources of what I believe to be right and good'

some have pointed out it's an old Vichy slogan. The Vichy used to issue special awards to *decent* married French woman who birthed 10+ bairns. In the world he paints single people, childless people, the disabled, carers etc.. are just not pulling their weight and have no respectable place in society.

Everything Starmer does is with the impeded confidence of a man who knows in three years about four-fifths of the UK press will be calling him a paedophile enabler. There's a certain dogged glory to the fact he can even get through speeches as his will to live visibly drains.

— Europe's Leading Soccer Futurologist (@TreborRhurbarb) September 29, 2021

people will just lie about anything won’t they?

Thing is costing everything was playing their fucking game in the first place. Look at the US rn - it's just an excuse not to do anything.

He's going Full Heaney. You never go Full Heaney. pic.twitter.com/xwnEK7fYLI

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 29, 2021

i'm just spitballing, god forgive me, but i feel confident that the enormous majority of people who get exercised about whether Labour's policies are costed are people who will never vote Labour anyway

Has any Starmer spokesperson even been arsed to pump out some "this is what non-nationalisation common ownership means". It's apparently "a world apart", but this other world is a complete mystery https://t.co/TXNJPw6al1

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) September 29, 2021

no explanation or pressing to explain the distinction between Common Ownership and Nationalisation he meant - just using words like they don't mean a thing

on the other hand i'm never sure if the kind of pablum in Kieth's speech is

a) the kind of pablum his people believe in
b) the kind of pablum they think voters believe in, but they use it to try and achieve their pathetically small vision of managed slightly less nasty charity capitalism
c) the kind of pablum they think voters believe in and they use it because they believe in nothing except self-advancement
d) some other shit combination of those 3 plus god knows what

no explanation or pressing to explain the distinction between Common Ownership and Nationalisation he meant - just using words like they don't mean a thing

You can definitely argue that ‘common ownership’ could mean a co-op situation where workers, rather than the government, own the industries. I think Nandy has made a move in that direction in the past. The reluctance to clarify is presumably because Starmer doesn’t believe in that version either.

he's certainly not arguing about the philosophical differences between different ways of removing capitalist bosses

never trust a cunt who conflates "work" with "wage slavery" basically

'we will not nationalise' (blurts some clever crack about common ownership)

"Fuel crisis: three more UK energy firms go bust, as government mobilises reserve tanker fleet and army"

How disgusting KS is.

The trusty “Webster’s dictionary” gambit beloved of high school word-padders everywhere

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, September 29, 2021

Brilliant Tracer!

Had a surreal experience this morning when the hotel I was in was evacuated and I found myself sitting in another with a bunch of lobby journalists (Paul Waugh, Patrick Maguire). They were going on about how shit ‘the party’ was. https://t.co/74o7G9b8kf

— Tom Williams (@shirleymush) September 29, 2021

Watching the BBC news tonight, LK's coverage of the Starmer speech is the most transparently agenda-setting propaganda I've seen, even from her, then a series of brexitland vox pops from Durley fucking North, jfc burn the country down.

This is fucking grim pic.twitter.com/NWL0UjJyVn

— Politics of NV (@politicsofnv) September 29, 2021

Brutal assessment.

So much more he could've said. The row over pay, the disgusting inversion of the BLM slogan, promising more cops to protect women the moment a cop is sentenced for the murder of one. The disaffiliation of a founding union from Labour (did it happen under Kinnock?)

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/29/keir-starmer-support-politician-national-mood?

I mean.

This is fucking grim pic.twitter.com/NWL0UjJyVn

— Politics of NV (@politicsofnv) September 29, 2021

Sorry sym lol just didn't see that tweet load in time..

just heard the ludicrous ham trying to blame "overpromising" in the manifesto and anti-Semitism, that Jermy Crobwyn etc.. as the factors behind 2019's defeat rather than properly cop for his cack-handed brexit policy. Say what you like about Jermy but he was good at talking to real people on the level and LISTENING to them.

6 and 9 points behind in two of the latest polls during a national fuel crisis with people feighting to the death on petrol station forecourts

But what you've got to understand is that when surveyed lots of these people hadn't yet heard Keir talk about how machine learning can cater for individual work styles https://t.co/Qs5iVyBjZd

— Alex Niven (@Alex_Niven) September 30, 2021

This headline from The Sun is something else.

the fact that the s*n of all places is publishing this is not nothing -- now is the time to make the abolitionist argument, not just by yelling 'abolish the police' which still sounds like nonsense to most people, but by meticulously building our case against policing https://t.co/bBLZ4TP42N

— Sita Balani (@sitainshort) September 30, 2021