Oh, listening to "Second Chance" now, their most popular song on Spotify, I've heard this song a million times before. (Of course, it's 13 years old.) I might have expected this to be too wimpy for this format.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 27 September 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
This concept is kind of funny - a niche format that is actually less distinctive/interesting than the larger umbrella format. But then I’ve never heard Shinedown.
― Josefa, Monday, 27 September 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link
I checked out their top song on Spotify-- "Cut the Cord"-- could be a theme song for Alex Jones
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 27 September 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link
This Shinedown song is generic sounding enough that I might have heard it, but I don't recognize it. I guess this is somewhat like the (mostly cancon) stuff that my local rock music station plays between classic rock songs, though maybe a bit lighter.
― silverfish, Monday, 27 September 2021 19:14 (two years ago) link
and looking at that Canadian chart vs the American one linked in the first post, I recognize a surprisingly high number of bands in the Canadian one (Big Wreck, Sheepdogs, cleopatrick, Damn Truth) that are played pretty regularly by the rock station here. I assume these bands are Canadian and they are just slotting them into spots where something like Shinedown would be if this rock station were American.
― silverfish, Monday, 27 September 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link
Also, aren't there Canadian content regs to consider? Are Canadians suspicious of bands that are only popular in Canada and nowhere else, figuring they're only getting airplay to meet the quota?
― Lee626, Monday, 27 September 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link
one thing i have learned from this format is that odd numbers are way cooler than even
Three Doors Down Five Finger Death PunchAvenged Sevenfold
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 27 September 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link
Third Eye BlindBen Folds Five
(actually even numbers have an uneven track record, cf. 4 Non Blondes)
― Extinct Namibian shrub genus: Var. (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 27 September 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link
9 Live Crew
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 27 September 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link
Sum 41? RAWKEve 6? LAME
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 27 September 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link
As opposed to the objective meritocracy of US and UK radio?
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 00:17 (two years ago) link
lol
― He POLLS So Much About These Zings (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 12:07 (two years ago) link
Are Canadians suspicious of bands that are only popular in Canada and nowhere else, figuring they're only getting airplay to meet the quota?
I definitely used to think this when I was younger, but now I realize that there are going to be a lot of terrible bands getting radio airplay no matter what, so might as well help out our local shitty bands, they are no better or worse than their international equivalents.
― silverfish, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 13:14 (two years ago) link
I wonder how much of this has to do with demographic shifts— radio still plays a HUGE part in rural areas and smaller cities, and this kind of "hard rock" stuff that dominates these charts might play okay to a certain demo; namely, teenage boys and their dads, honkies all of them.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link
Been thinking about these sorts of questions a lot since I saw Rancid and the Dropkick Murphys a month ago— I liked the former before "Ruby Soho" and "Timebomb" came out because I'd read about them in SPIN and bought a CD with my dog-walking money, but the latter emerged in the mid-to-late 90s as a sort of rowdy punk band...but how to explain their rise to be the favorite band of vaguely white nationalist Catholic types who live in the suburbs? I've done some searching on the charts and it can't be explained there, I don't think.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link
(Also, just FYI, I went to that show because my best friend from elementary and middle school invited me to go with him. He remains a nice guy, but man his music taste is abysmal!)
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link
I know (used to know, more accurately) a lot of ppl my age (& even old dudes!) who think bands like Godsmack & Five Finger Death Punch are as good as any grunge-era bands, as good as bands get really...
― the revenge of beer hegemony (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 1 October 2021 01:05 (two years ago) link
o_O
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 1 October 2021 01:10 (two years ago) link
Lmao
― the revenge of beer hegemony (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 1 October 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link
They always play some cool rock on the fight scenes in Letterkenny and I always thing I need to look up who that band is and never do. I assume they are Canadian artists (I knew Peaches tune when it came up as there was plenty of ILM love for it back when it was new).
― earlnash, Friday, 1 October 2021 02:21 (two years ago) link
From scanning some videos by FFDP, Hurricane, and Shinedown, all featured heartfelt comments by current or former members of the US military, so that also appears to be a key demographic here.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 1 October 2021 02:51 (two years ago) link
lol just listened to an episode of Cinepunx which featured a tangent of one of the hosts going to this tour, 80% complaining about how shit Dropkick Murphys and their weird fanbase are.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 1 October 2021 11:09 (two years ago) link
I wrote about this phenomenon a few years ago.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 1 October 2021 11:33 (two years ago) link
good stuff, thanks
― He POLLS So Much About These Zings (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 October 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link
lol just listened to an episode of Cinepunx which featured a tangent of one of the hosts going to this tour, 80% complaining about how shit Dropkick Murphys and their weird fanbase are.― Daniel_Rf, Friday, October 1, 2021 4:09 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, October 1, 2021 4:09 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
It was confounding— there were dudes wearing NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF and Black punks with PUNKS AGAINST RACIST HATE shirts walking around, and in the meantime, the guys who parked next to me had Trump stickers and Thin Blue Line cop-humper shit all over their brand new Expedition— they were all wearing Irish and Dropkick Murphys type of gear.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 1 October 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link
especially since they have beat up Nazis at their shows
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 1 October 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link
I think it's sort of the Boondock Saints effect— there's this sort of "hatred of authority" and "adoration of authority" that seem to go hand in hand with these types of idiots.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 1 October 2021 18:45 (two years ago) link
I listened to the active rock station for a little bit in the car last night, out of curiosity. It's an interesting contrast to what these charts are like, since almost every song was familiar: iirc, Foo Fighters - Making a Fire (only song from this year; I knew it but only bc I listened to it when I saw it on the chart - it sounds like it could be from the 70s)Iron Maiden - Run to the HillsGreen Day - LongviewThe Glorious Sons - Kill the Lights (only song I didn't recognize; four years old but could be 20)My Chemical Romance - Welcome to the Black ParadeSomething by the Tragically Hip
I actually don't dislike any of these and actively like a few but it was a exceptionally unchallenging, unsurprising listen; as noted above, it's basically a heavier contemporary take on classic rock in a way that doesn't come across when reading charts.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 2 October 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link
Other than Iron Maiden and Green Day, you might as well have just listed
Shit Band- Stupid shit songBad Group- Really Dumb Bro SongWow our band is Bad- Fucking Abysmal Song
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Saturday, 2 October 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
Wow our band is Bad don't get much love on ILM, maybe it's their name?
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 2 October 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link
Clap Your Hands Wow Our Band Is Bad
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 October 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link
I can’t believe how many albums the foo fighters have made. I would have assumed they’d have all literally died of boredom after having to record their 7th album of undifferentiated “rock music” flavored audio product
― brimstead, Saturday, 2 October 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link
Cool article, unperson.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 October 2021 01:29 (two years ago) link
yeah, great article unperson.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Sunday, 3 October 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link
The new Big Wreck single is honestly really good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZImrFEkGjGs
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
It would be handy if Wow our band is Bad would add "UK" to their name, so I stop getting this weird Belgian microhouse group with a similar name on my Spotify "release radar" each Friday
― Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Saturday, 29 January 2022 22:02 (two years ago) link