The Herman Cain Award

If people are extending this beyond professional spreaders of misinformation then that's horrible

and yet many of these people are spreading misinformation on social media and likely the virus itself

that nurse just died this morning, btw

fwiw I've heard from anti-vaxx people "I have a friend/cousin/uncle who's a nurse and they say it doesn't affect healthy people/it's treatable with sheep drugs/the vaccine is ineffective and dangerous and they don't tell you, etc etc". who knows how many people they're inadvertently killing

sometimes cruel, sometimes funny

― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:02 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

not funny but not cruel imo. no sympathy for antivaxxers of any stripe at this point, just makes me unbelievably sad to be trapped with these people on the same planet. ICUs in my area are north of 90% capacity and have started rationing care, meaning that these maniacs are not only killing those they spread to but also innocent people in distress who wont be able to get the care they need for non-covid things. i've always been a cynic with a low opinion of humanity but this experience has made my heart harder than i ever thought it could be. all the needless pain and suffering, the stupidity, everything we've lost, the big things and the small sad ways that simple experience of living life has just been gradually diminished and wicked away, due to nothing other than people who hold the entire world hostage to their selfishness and ego, the utter pointlessness of it all... of all the things to feel bad about, the plight of the antivaxxer dying for lack of a free shot we begged them to take is just not something my heart is expansive enough to find sympathy for right now. maybe i'll get to it at some point but not right now its not in the top 1000.

to be fair to this sub a lot of the top voted posts are "redemptions" (people who got the shot because of the sub) or nurses sharing how heartbreaking it's all been

yeah, it wasn't loading for me yesterday but i looked at it this morning and found it to be a lot tamer than expected

One Eye Open otm.

I'm a member of a few cancer-related groups, and there are numerous stories of people having their possibly life-saving major surgeries delayed due to the influx of Delta patients. The utter stupidity and selfishness of anti-vaxxers makes them extremely difficult to feel sorry for, even if they are victims of misinformation and propaganda.

I wouldn't say they're funny or necessarily cruel. If the existence of an 'award' that mocks people for behaving in an irresponsible and stupid manner that leads to their own death is enough to make even a handful of people mitigate their own behavior lest they be similarly mocked in death, then these things are performing a much needed public service imo. We do probably want to avoid directly shaming and chastising people into vaccinating (because it won't work) but I'm all for like second-order shame and chastisement (see also: blocking them from participation in many of the more pleasant leisure activities responsible people should be able to do without having to worry about being exposed to covidiots).

not funny but not cruel imo

worst response imo lol

In general not funny, but Herman Cain's twitter account still tweeting out covid/mask/denier/conspiracy BS *after he died* was kind of funny.

cruel, not funny. turns my stomach.

did i imagine it or is there a "notable covid deaths" kind of thread on here?

yes, but it isn't designed as a clone of the Darwin Awards

funny's a weird word for it but if I get your drift, then it's funny in that way. Just like the Darwin Awards are.

one more thing I'll say about this is that it's one of the most pure forms of schadenfreude I've ever encountered - to be a leftist in this country has meant a solid half decade of constantly freaking the fuck out upon the realization that half of this nation does not believe in objective reality or science and the knowledge that being governed by these people will inevitably lead to grave consequences, which they straight up do not care about because they know that it "most likely" won't affect them. and all of us screaming at them "YOUR DECISIONS ARE LITERALLY GOING TO CAUSE PEOPLE TO DIE" has only made their resolve to be shitty people even stronger, since they have no clue what suffering a consequence looks like, as this entire country is built from the ground up to cater to and coddle white Christian idiots. in the early days of the pandemic all of these dumbfucks kept saying "so what, I'm youngish and have no chronic conditions, why should I care", and I'm sure tens of thousands of them have unknowingly spread it to someone who suffered greatly from it or died as a result. half of us were trying to do the right thing and punted a full year of our lives (or more!!) but it didn't matter much because the other half were too busy flouting their idiocy by attending giant "Rallies for Freedom" including the Sturgis event which at one point was linked to literally half the active cases in the country. they will never ever admit it but they have so much blood on their hands and the ironic part is most of it is from kindred spirits, not those who their Lord and Savior spent 4 goddamn years calling the "enemies of America". fuck 'em all.

yes this is hitting me hard lately. there was a case at my son's school and while we're all fine (I hope!) the kids' parents are not. the father just died two days ago and the mother is vented up and apparently things are not looking good. they're gonna leave behind 2 kids who are gonna grow up and the only thing they're gonna know about their parents are they were too fucking stupid to get a shot that would have literally saved their lives. that's gonna be their legacy. it's so goddamn sad, and also, almost completely preventable. and I know they were exactly the same sort of people I'd argue with endlessly on fucking Facebook comment sections, trying to plead with them that I am not trying to trick them but they seriously have no goddamn clue what they are talking about. well well well, I told you so.

they're gonna leave behind 2 kids who are gonna grow up and the only thing they're gonna know about their parents are they were too fucking stupid to get a shot that would have literally saved their lives. that's gonna be their legacy.

i'm sorry to have this cynical perspective on this, but i would guess that the kids will "learn" a load of bullshit about what killed their parents and come away with "research" indicating that they did nothing wrong

for example, my dad did nothing wrong, apparently, and that whole side of the family is in complete denial about all of it

I guess if the only relationship you really care about is the one between you and god, and your god demands that you die a horrifying death, then you'll ride that horse all the way to the finish line. it's even sadder how many of these True Believers in Freedom recant on their deathbeds when they finally discover just what kind of fire they were playing with and how useless their precious Freedom looks, compared to staying alive.

maybe, it's hard to say. I can't imagine those kids are gonna grow up to have many memories of their parents and may not be so defensive

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