afaik it completely cuts the outro & transitions to "i can wait" in a different way
― ufo, Monday, 20 September 2021 06:38 (two years ago) link
oooh, thx
― StanM, Monday, 20 September 2021 07:41 (two years ago) link
I'm curious to hear that; that ticking outro is my least favorite part of the album (I ordered the cd but it hasn't arrived).
― Chris L, Monday, 20 September 2021 11:38 (two years ago) link
just twigged on that 'there's a comma after still' is likely a play on the lyric 'still, white horses take us home'...!
― maelin, Monday, 20 September 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link
vinyl definitely sands some of the harshest edges off the digital processing stuff without defanging it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 September 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link
not that it matters much but as far as I understand, this record is mostly analog processing, making use of hardware compressors, gates, tape saturation, etc
some great production insights here:
https://gearspace.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1261587-lows-double-negative-sound-awesome-production-info-2.html
Guitars are sidechained to analog gates often..every song had drums/rhythm at some point. I just mute that **** since drums date a recording, and use the negative space instead.
― missingNO, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 04:36 (two years ago) link
used guitar amps for a lot of things on the in...mostly drum machine, and well, guitar. but everything kind of went through different phases of distortion as I’d manipulate in post. i have tape machines, guitar pedals, cassette decks. it’s sort of whatever I feel like using a the time toget the sound that resonates most with me in the moment. weed helps with that too
these goddamn stoners
― typo punishment #4: it feels better to me to be like there, this (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 04:46 (two years ago) link
i think one of my favorite things about that thread is that a couple years he used all lowercase, and then in his answers for the new one he capitalizes things and uses punctuation. fucking sold out to the man!
― typo punishment #4: it feels better to me to be like there, this (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 05:04 (two years ago) link
They begged BJ to go all caps for HEY WHAT branding; that was the compromise
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 05:25 (two years ago) link
he's more business savvy than he lets on
― typo punishment #4: it feels better to me to be like there, this (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 05:30 (two years ago) link
Need more unpronounceable titles like those on 22, A Million
― doug watson, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 08:04 (two years ago) link
Vinyl master is shorter so we could fit it on two sides with the best fidelity we could get. Couple of the transitions are shorter. https://t.co/SCL4tDolgv— LOW (@lowtheband) September 20, 2021
explanation for the vinyl being different
― ufo, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 09:21 (two years ago) link
i love everything bj wrote in that thread
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link
i'm fine with the shortened transitions, they are kind of unnecessary and IMO the vinyl flows better as a result
― akm, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link
Vinyl ruins everything
― raven, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 11:51 (two years ago) link
I like the transitions a lot.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link
thanks to the live videos ums recently posted upthread, I now own my first Low album and it is v nice.
― Taliban! (PBKR), Sunday, 26 September 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link
thanks for the reminder to listen to this again
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 26 September 2021 23:17 (two years ago) link
Would love to see someone reissue the Vernon Yard stuff. Still hoping to stumble across a CD copy of the debut (the only full length I'm missing), but increasingly looking like I'll need to pay $40+ through discogs.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 September 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link
the band's said they've been trying to buy the rights to those albums back for ages to no avail
― ufo, Monday, 27 September 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link
It wasn't difficult at all to get the second two, but the debut is proving quite elusive. And the EPs from that label? Forget it. I hope they are successful someday.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 September 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link
were those Plain Recordings vinyl represses maybe ten years back of that era bogus?
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 03:00 (two years ago) link
lol - never mind, I just saw what those represses were going for on discogs. BANK!
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 03:07 (two years ago) link
https://uproxx.com/indie/bj-burton-interview-producer-indie-low-bon-iver/
good interview with burton, a lot of focus on his work with low
― ufo, Thursday, 30 September 2021 02:20 (two years ago) link
would have loved to hear more about his work with charli though
― ufo, Thursday, 30 September 2021 02:28 (two years ago) link
it's mad how honest and confident this bloke is, just like 'yeah caned a load of ket and made a world-class record'. fair fucks, bj burton
― maelin, Thursday, 30 September 2021 11:49 (two years ago) link
"I just want to have a good time, man. There’s so much more important shit than music. I forgot about that in my 20s, and was a complete functioning alcoholic forever. Now I want to be happy. I mean, hopefully, my shit could land on the radio, if radio could open up their minds a little bit and stop serving everyone Mountain Dew every day. Just take a risk on some shit, that’ll be cool, because I think then I can get my foot in the door and I can get my fucking yacht and go sail around the fucking Caribbean, you know? I’m down for that. Listening to fucking Jimmy Buffett and shit."
― maelin, Thursday, 30 September 2021 11:53 (two years ago) link
That interview is awesome. I love the shit-talking. "I was doing a lot of vocals for music and I was like, “I want to put this with what I do with Low and just have their vocals always upfront and actually maybe even louder than pop music in a cool way.” Like Yeezus, almost. That’s how Kanye likes his vocals. But the difference is Alan’s not annoying. Alan’s actually saying shit that could be important."
I clicked through that link to see the live performance of "Clarence White" he cites, and it was dope but I didn't remember it being so dope on the record. So I went back to the record and, yeah, it's not as dope. I think "The Invisible Way" might have been really important for the band, in the sense that they got a name producer and went for a safer sound and it was met with relative disinterest, so they said, fuck it, we're turning this ship around and heading in the other direction. Of course, having worked with Fridmann in the past they certainly know about pushing things into the red, but I love the idea that they were willing to lose themselves entirely in the music.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 September 2021 12:41 (two years ago) link
Yeah great interview. Funny that he comes across as candid and unfiltered as his forum posts
― Vinnie, Thursday, 30 September 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link
Then I remember we were at Pachyderm when it first opened again. There was a bluegrass band we were tracking. The only reason I did that album was to get to Alan, because Alan was producing the album and Alan asked me to come help. So it paid off.
laughing at this trampled by turtles dig
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 30 September 2021 13:19 (two years ago) link
Looool
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 September 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link
I also loves how he doesn't say their names as if no one will be able to guess who it is out of the dozens of bluegrass bands Sparhawk has produced
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 September 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link
Haha. Love the honesty:
Was it smoother working on i,i?
No. I didn’t really want to work with nine producers and engineers, and he had to go through this whole collaboration thing. I mean, honestly, I don’t think that’s a great album. The production’s all over the place. Sonically, it sounds like a ’90s record to me. It doesn’t hit.
Totally agree, and the unlimited budget + unlimited collaborators approach has really been a bummer for both Bon Iver and Kanye. The fact that it worked out for Yeezus is the exception that proves the rule. What if they were actually forced to produce an album for themselves, or with just their main producer/engineer?
I do a lot of ketamine. A lot of HEY WHAT is very ketamine-based. I got into that and it kind of changed my life for the better.
Not a sentence I hear every day.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 30 September 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link
Ketamine therapy works for some people!
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 September 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link
The fact that it worked out for Yeezus is the exception that proves the rule.
*cough*
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 September 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link
Yeezus is a great record, the hatred it gets on ILM is thoroughly the minority opinion
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 September 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link
So does disliking mist Kanye West after 2011.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 September 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link
*most
Half of Yeezus is great, half is pure unmitigated bullshit
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Thursday, 30 September 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link
Burton got into the gear nerd side a bit herehttps://gearspace.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1261587-lows-double-negative-sound-awesome-production-info.html
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 30 September 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link
Half of Yeezus is great, half is pure unmitigated bullshit― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:36 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:36 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I actually agree with you here, but the strong points are some of his strongest afaic. Plus it contains my favorite lyrics of the teens.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 September 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link
yeezus was the last good kanye record
― ufo, Thursday, 30 September 2021 22:14 (two years ago) link
it's mad how honest and confident this bloke is, just like 'yeah caned a load of ket and made a world-class record'. fair fucks, bj burton― maelin, Thursday, 30 September 2021 12:49 (yesterday)
Indeed. mego-like melodic glitch was always the future of pop. Finally people are catching up to what I have been saying for 10000 years.
― RobbiePires, Friday, 1 October 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link
the Mego releases do seem like they influenced the last two Low records
― Dan S, Friday, 1 October 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link
I posted this a bit upthread but yeah, definitely: https://pitaemego.bandcamp.com/track/get-out-3
― cwkiii, Friday, 1 October 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link
right on, robbie. i'm just breaking into mego & pita now via fennesz, and eschewed my instruments for just my laptop now...
― maelin, Saturday, 2 October 2021 13:09 (two years ago) link
re: Mego, I thought Florian Hecker's Acid In the Style of David Tudor was good, it seemed like a precursor to Rashad Becker's Traditional Music of Notional Species Vol 1
― Dan S, Sunday, 3 October 2021 00:50 (two years ago) link
off topic, but Becker's record is one of the more incredible things I've heard in the last decade
― Dan S, Sunday, 3 October 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link
Hitting the ground running in 2022! pic.twitter.com/jjCm8z4ZOz— LOW (@lowtheband) October 3, 2021
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 3 October 2021 01:26 (two years ago) link
wtf?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 October 2021 01:39 (two years ago) link