2021 AL MVP

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there should be a new award, maybe even one given while ohtani is still playing, like now:

best pitcher/position player combo. The Ohtani award.

Give Ohtani the NL MVP since no one really deserves it

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Sunday, 19 September 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

That's a good point, you could argue that since he's a pitcher who hits, he's de facto an NL player

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 20 September 2021 00:38 (two years ago) link

by definition the player who fills this extra spot will be a replacement player, right?

overall, yes. but the extra roster flexibility allows for high-leverage use of one-tool players — if ohtani makes the room to carry career 75 OPS+ hitter jarrod dyson specifically to run in extra innings, that has real-life value not captured by WAR.

mookieproof, Monday, 20 September 2021 01:54 (two years ago) link

agreed re: Ohtani's longevity, can definitely see a future where pitchers figure him out a bit (which may be happening right now) and he's too perpetually injured to pitch regularly. really hope I'm wrong though!!

frogbs, Monday, 20 September 2021 02:17 (two years ago) link

Perez's 46th HR evidently does count as an official record; you've got to play at least half your games at a position to qualify for a positional record.

https://www.mlb.com/royals/news/most-home-runs-by-a-catcher

clemenza, Monday, 20 September 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link

(Javy Lopez holds the unofficial record with 42 while catching.)

clemenza, Monday, 20 September 2021 22:31 (two years ago) link

Ohtani and Guerrero now separated by 0.4 fWAR (Burnes has moved to #1)--which actually surprised me, as Ohtani had a very good start yesterday.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

three walks and two homers isn’t great for FIP

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

Over. I thought Vlad was the best choice two weeks ago--TC still viable, Jays on a streak, Ohtani supposedly finished pitching and slumping badly with the bat--but Vlad (1-17) and the Jays have cooled, Ohtani's had two good starts, and his hitting has picked up. Probably back to unanimous, or close.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link

yeah agree

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 11:11 (two years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 1 October 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 2 October 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

god bless you, two people.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 2 October 2021 04:04 (two years ago) link

One of whom would change his vote today...

clemenza, Saturday, 2 October 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link


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