Anime for people who hate anime

i was hoping it was not as bad as everyone has said for years and years. it is

nadia's vegetarianism is one of my favorite things about her character but they devote so much energy in the deserted island arc to making her look obstinate and stupid in her vegetarianism and i'm like... so angry about it

they can't even draw nadia's hair right from scene to scene lol

Nice video about Cyber City Oedo 808 and cyberpunk in general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOoQDtuehoo
I've never actually seen this. A friend gave me a loan of it and the vhs player instantly chewed it up (I've never bought into VHS nostalgia, they were shit). No region B bluray yet, but I'm waiting.

Region 2 BR here https://www.animebluray.co.uk/Home/Product/1786

Thankyouverymuch!

Watched the three Mobile Suit Gundam movies on netflix, which stitch together the original anime series. Was surprised by how much of what I associate with Evangelion - trauma relating to an unloving, distant father figure; youngsters manipulated and instrumentalized by a cruel militarized authority - was actually introduced in this show. The animation is sometimes charmingly primitive but, as with much manga and anime from the 70's and 80's, the character models feel to me like they're strongly influenced by bande dessinee, and I certainly prefer that over the sort of garish sensory overload that a lot of anime after that seems to go for. The story, despite having giant robots in it, sometimes feels more like one of those bitter WWI novels; it's pretty unflinching about the War Is Hell stuff. The second movie has some soundtrack jams, including an E Street Band type rocker with lyrics that apparently are all about the sadness of loss and tragedy of war while the backing gets all fist pumping. I looked up the dude who recorded it, Tadao Inoue, and he's also responsible for this album with an all-time great cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUAt_y8EdZM

Anyway, I felt like by the third film it all got weighed down with too much pseudoscience babble and (admitidely cool) psychedelics, but that's kinda appropriate for something like this. Made me want to check out the next series at least, which apparently is from the pov of the faction that the protagonists in this one are fighting!

i don't like zeta gundam as much as the original but it's an interesting direction at least. i do like ZZ though which seems to be generally disliked for being sillier

if you want to see the best gundam series, it's Turn A by a fair margin imo

new season of mob psycho announced, anyone here watch that

me, i'm most excited for the new season of jojo, which is one of those shows that is so good but so hard to explain to normies that you can't recommend it to normal ppl lol, plus the body horror stuff turns ppl off

i liked the first three eps of mob psycho, does it develop into something?

i read the first three cycles of jojo and don't think i could handle the pacing if it were animated.

thanks ciderpress, the amount of different series is indeed intimidating!

apparently zeta gundam's soundtrack is Neil Sedaka songs with new Japanese lyrics

it looks intimidating but most of them are standalone series, only zeta/zz and char's counterattack directly follow on from the original

it's aliiiiiive!
Mitsuo Iso's long awaited film Chikyugai Shonen Shojo has a trailer and a date
(if you don't know Iso he was a key animator on various Gundams, Porco Rosso, Ghost in the Shell film, Evangelion, Perfect Blue, FLCL etc etc + director of the criminally underrated Dennou Coil)

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nice, hope he's still got it, i'm a huge fan of dennou coil

Cyber City Oedo 808- it's nice enough, love the insanely tall buildings, the futuristic vampire story and half robot sabretooth tigers. A lot of what interested me most was in the features. The screenwriter written 3 novels continuing the story and he went on to write futuristic ghost stories.

It wasn't that successful in japan and the UK version is almost a different film. Manga Entertainment not only added new soundtracks to some of their films/series but they deliberately tried to make the dialogue swearier and edgier to put the age rating up and added jokes that weren't originally there too (this makes me look at Devilman in a new light). The tone of the original japanese Cyber City is totally different, a surprising number of people prefer the UK version. I understand people preferring the UK soundtrack (it's included as a bonus disc), I absolutely love the UK soundtrack to Fist Of The North Star series because there was a greater feeling of desolation. One of the guys at Manga Entertainment talks about why he created new soundtracks and I do think that maybe in japan they're a bit too willing to just slap some cheesy pop or rock in there, maybe those bands are popular? I would generally prefer to hear what the director intended but I can't deny how good some of the new soundtracks are.

Manga Entertainment's catalogue was quite limited in genre (mostly violent action and cyberpunk) and targeted young men too much (they used Celtic Frost and KMFDM in their advertising) and it was a surprise to some that Cyber City had a lot of girl fans who loved Benten. I didn't realize that anime fans are actually quite keen on all the fan culture and history that develop outside japan, I thought they might deem it impure.

Big thanks to Zappi for the bluray link

Den-noh Coil has just turned up on Netflix, I've been wanting to watch that one for quite some time now! I managed to track down another long-time anime curiosity, Princess Tutu, on HiDive, and I'm completely hooked.

those are the 2 best animes of the 00s, enjoy

I am, and also just discovered (not Princess) Mononoke is on Youtube, apparently in its entirety, I'm gettin completely spoiled here

that's #3

canadian netflix has every ghibli movie fwiw

I'm also watching Den-noh Coil. It's some of the most fresh and original cyberpunk I've ever seen on film. The way the show translates internet phenomena from its time into a fantastical yet mundane augmented reality future net is so much fun. All of the children in it are so well drawn. This show understands the 5th grade mindset on a deep level.

there's also Kaiba if you want another really unique take on cyberpunk anime. dunno if its streaming anywhere though

weirdly Kaiba just got a blu ray release in the UK, not that I’m complaining but such an odd decision
thread is making me want to rewatch Dennou Coil, great show even though it destroyed Mitsuo Iso’s career for a decade

apparently it's on Netflix? at least in the UK it is

Both Den-nou and Orbital Children are on US Netflix, just checked. Will try to check them out!
The screen of Den-nou I saw actually reminds me a lot of Inio Asano's manga, Dead Dead Demon's Dededede Destruction

Got to see INU-OH on the big screen recently. Hadn't seen anything by its director before but this pretty much blew me away: blind kid reaches Noh fame by singing the songs of a defeated tribe, joins up with neglected son of Noh director and they become glam rock stars in feudal Japan. Some amazing visuals; the songs might go on for a bit too long for some tastes but I couldn't get enough of them. Well worth checking out.

for sure check out other stuff by Yuasa if you liked that. The Tatami Galaxy, Ping Pong the Animation, Kaiba, Keep Your Hands off Eizouken are all great series

You gotta check out Mind Game

it's phenomenal

i forgot to post about it, but everyone needs to watch YA BOY KONGMING

lol, i've been reading the manga. it is super nerdy.

i liked the first bit of the anime but cooled on it as it got less funny and more dramatic

it pretty much turned me into a three kingdoms otaku, to the extent that i imported a pc-engine cd game from japan featuring a soundtrack by ymo's yukihiro takahashi

Where is that streaming?

hidive, apparently
https://www.hidive.com/tv/ya-boy-kongming?q=kongming

Well, I'm on Hi-Yah! but no HiDive... shrug

KONGMING also has a top 10 greatest opening tunes of all time, all the way from ecuador via hungary to japan

http://i.imgur.com/f7cCy6I.png

truthbomb

I get around that by never talking about anime to anyone I know lol

The first thirty episodes of Monster are on Netflix now, well worth a watch

Strange they'd only do the first half, but I guess streaming rights are funky. I should really dig into that, the manga is one of my all-time favorites.

been getting into anime lately in a quest to fulfill all of the trans girl stereotypes, here's what i've found so far

ashita no joe - only saw the first episode but this shit fucks, apparently the sequel is even better?
cromartie high school - saw first episode again, kinda adult swim style but without the gross-out stuff, a little too "lol random" for me but i was surprised to find that the king crimson-style prog group bi kyo ran did the soundtrack. as crim clones go i prefer anekdoten but it certainly gives the anime a unique feel
garzey's wing - this is what people who don't watch anime think anime is like
legend of the galactic heroes - i'm eating this shit up, epic space opera of my dreams here

i've got a long list of other stuff to check out but legend of the galactic heroes is like 110 episodes, and after that's done i want to check out galaxy express 999, which is even longer...

original LoGH so good! I tried watching the recent remake but iirc they replaced all the classical music with bombastic anime slop, booo.

I've been watching Aura Battler Dunbine which is this nutso series from 1983 made by Gundam people, it has all this crazy fantasy stuff as well as the mecha. don't know if I even like it yet, but it's certainly unique and unpredictable - one early episode had a drunken fairy spy infiltrating an army made up of unicorn cavalry and giant insect mechs?!?

i was inspired by your post and i put it on my "to check out" list, so it turns out the reason it has mechas is because the gundam guy did a manga that was supposed to be a change of pace, but when it came time to do the anime the suits were like "so, uh, there are gonna be mechas in this, right?" and he was like "uh... wasn't planning on it" and they were like "well, truth be told, the reason we green-lit this is because we were under the impression there would be mechas in it" and he sighed and was like "fine, i'll put in mechas"

i also found out that it was the first isekai anime. i've been watching this guy named, uh, geoff thew, who is somehow american despite having one of the most british names i've ever heard anywhere, and he just super hates isekai. which also means that i've been paying attention to him a lot, because it turns out that the people who hate anime are the same people as the people who really love anime. i guess that makes sense.

it also turns out that the particular isekai world, called byston well, is also the setting for one of the most incoherent OVAs I've ever seen called Garzey's Wing, which i found out about at a panel on "the worst anime ever" at gencon in 2011. i would definitely class this as "anime for people who hate anime" because it's hilarious.

i can't believe 2011 was 12 years ago. anyway it looks like a lot has happened in anime since then. i admit i've gone on a bit of a binge.

most depressing thing in anime is looking for lgbtq+ content. apparently there's one anime that handles trans themes well called hourou musuko, and it was made in fucking 2011. other than that it's all subtext. geoff thew did a video on what he called a "lesbian golf anime" and it's all subtext. anime seems to be really, really into queer-baiting. birdie wing is a really fucking good show from what i've seen, tho.

also, why is nobody a fucking adult in any goddamn anime ever? i know i'm not the first person to remark on this but seriously, it doesn't matter what genre i'm in, there are just no goddamn adults around and it's more than creepy, it's _irritating_.

it's really not hard to find queer anime at all, there's plenty of stuff with direct gay romances, especially recently. the current gundam series, one of the biggest franchises there is, is centred around one - that's admittedly well outside the norm, but there are extensive subgenres dedicated to gay romance so just look up those if that's what you want

the romance in birdie wing is currently subtext (because it's focused on being an absurd golf soap opera) but it's weird to call it queerbaiting when the characters are pretty openly gay

hourou musuko is pretty mediocre overall (just kinda basic and uninteresting) but deserves some credit for being an ok trans 101 story that started publication back in 2002 (the manga that is)

for a long time it was subtextual bc of tv censors

at least this is my understanding from being a kunihiko ikuhara fan

re: trans rep there's not much at all in the way of good anime focused on transness but there's not exactly a plethora of good western tv focused on transness either.

you do casually encounter solid trans representation from time to time though, even in very mainstream stuff. hunter x hunter had a trans character as a major character in one arc, and even one piece, which otherwise has an extremely messy record wrt queer representation, had a trans woman side character recently who was handled well

Princess Jellyfish had a decent attempt at writing a trans character iirc
I thought the Hourou Musuko anime was really good, the manga is better tho and goes into more depth
can't say I'm an expert but it feels like there is very little stuff in between queer baiting and then full on yaoi/yuri porn