Buying A House: C or D?

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I own curtains as of today

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link

The contrast between the last two posts is pretty much the breadth of the home ownership experience.

Taliban! (PBKR), Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link

a wide breadth with one consistent theme: the spending of your money

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

Hey it only cost me 1/20th of an earthquake-proofing im a happy man

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link

those curtains better have officially licensed disney property print at that price

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link

in the middle of the US, you can save money acquiring wares with the likeness of your favorite premium property by negotiating with a local criminal cartel that skirts such official licensing. they are called "the Amish".

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link

of course, you risk making up the difference in your total expense via the unconscious and habitual collection of out-of-season christmas tchotchkes

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link

Curtains are SUCH A THING. When C moved here, we went to Target like very weekend for months to buy an astonishing number of sheer curtains for some basic privacy (since a lot of windows look out on a city street). Before that, he'd lived in a rental apt that came w louvered blinds so he never thought about it.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 16 September 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

We had bare windows til last week, blinds then, curtains now, its a huge change and i knew it would be but i didnt know know it until im looking now

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 September 2021 20:36 (two years ago) link

I still do not live in the house purchased 11 months ago because we have been hemorrhaging money on a gut reno for 11 months! Dear god I hope we make it in before the year anniversary. But we probably won't?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 17 September 2021 03:51 (two years ago) link

oh no! sorry to hear that. we waited 4 months for the permit, but we can "live" in our house during the foundation work. i do wonder if the noise and mess will be too much anyway. I don't have a great idea of how long it will all take.

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 17 September 2021 04:00 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

"Renters keep leaving due to rising rents. Can we require employees to be homeowners?"

This post is a perfect clusterfuck of NIMBYism, homeowner brain, and hand-wringing about "transient" renters pic.twitter.com/HFRxjTU4kp

— 𝐮𝐩𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐂𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐓𝐎𝐑 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭 (@yhdistyminen) December 7, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 06:40 (two years ago) link

that's just deeply diseased thinking, I can't even begin to pick it apart rn. Can't imagine their business will be too successful that way either.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 12:51 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

lol will believe it when i see it https://www.redfin.com/news/pricey-coastal-metros-california-housing-market-cooldown/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 8 April 2022 17:02 (two years ago) link

Just means prices are rising at 15%/yr instead of 20%/yr.

nickn, Friday, 8 April 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link

Yeah the degree to which I can't buy a $1 million house is exactly the same as the degree to which I can't buy a $2 million house.

Yes, one is twice as expensive as the other. But from my perspective they are both in the same category of "houses I can't afford ever." So the difference is irrelevant to me.

So's your imam (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 April 2022 18:41 (two years ago) link

The price of the average UK home rose by just over £28,000 in the past year, which is pretty much the same as the average UK worker earned over the same period.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 14:24 (two years ago) link

Happened for the first time in the US last year too https://newrepublic.com/article/165980/labor-real-estate-economic-inequality

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 14:49 (two years ago) link

Nice article. Would like to read more by/about Henry George

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 15:19 (two years ago) link

here for the spreading of henry george thought

class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 17:17 (two years ago) link

i don't know a lot about it, but i get the impression it's moving from a libertarian thing (has slight flat tax vibes) to a thing that yimbys like? they've rebranded it https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/22951092/land-tax-housing-crisis and argue it would stimulate high density construction.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 17:21 (two years ago) link

it also has this moral aspect that i personally find appealing (the land you live on is not yours, it belongs to the earth, pay rent mother fucker).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Nice article. Would like to read more by/about Henry George

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, April 19, 2022 11:19 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

Some people have been asking- "Who is this guy? Why should anyone care about someone with two first names?"

A thread on Henry George and the Single Taxers, the most important historical movement you've probably never heard of🧵 https://t.co/S7kJa1AXP4

— Joseph Addington (@GeorgistJoseph) June 1, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 June 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link

my fairly recently launched search for the perfect 2br co-op in jackson heights is already feeling dead in the water--not because stuff is getting snapped up overnight anymore but because i'm afraid interest rates will be sky-high before sellers figure shit out and stop expecting people to offer 120% of asking off the rip.

adam, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

the fact that governments are promoting RV parks and lots where people can legally live in vehicles as solutions to the housing crisis speaks to the cost and structural barriers to building new housing.

sarahell, Monday, 4 July 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

I've been wanting to have this conversation for as long as I've been low-key obsessed with tiny houses and "van life" Tiktok. My dad, who currently lives in an actual trailer/RV-ish thing, in a park full of other RVs, all owned by white retirees who are sitting on lots of money from liquidating their suburban family homes that they bought 37 years ago, says I'm "reading too much into it."

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

In USDA National Forest campsites, there's a rule that you can only camp there for a maximum of 14 days during a 30-day period.

I thought it was a funny rule until we got out there and I saw, Oh, not everyone is out here for fun.

pplains, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

Yeah, the cute videos really gloss over the part where the person says, "...and they we drive to our parking spot for the night" when that's an unsafe commercial parking lot or takes half a day to find a place and you have to do it every single day.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

Liiiike 10(ish? maybe?) years ago when there was suddenly a lot of articles bout people sleeping in their cars -----> fast forward to aesthetically pleasing van conversions being monetized on the internet by thin, pretty white people with $20-50k to spend on something that gets 11 miles a gallon = whooeee there's a lot to unpack here.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

Twenty years ago, I paid $67k for my first house, a 1,200-SF "bungelow" built during WWII. You couldn't buy a decent RV now for $67k.

Same house sold last year for $146,000. And believe me, I studied its online gallery, it hadn't gotten any younger in the meantime.

pplains, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

lol -- you realize that for many of here a $146k house is something that hasn't existed since the 1980s?

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

The RV park is CRAMMED with huge units with 4 bump-outs and permanent deck-scapes outside with outdoor bars and grills and lawn art, all with $60K trucks parked next to 'em. And these are the ones that you don't move around too much. We need to be talking about these things as second homes, because they are.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

like you can't even buy a house that has been 90% destroyed in a fire here for $146k -- at minimum it would be twice that.

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

a 5000 sq ft piece of empty land zoned for SFR is worth no less than $700k in most of southern california. it doesn't matter if it's empty or if there's a 90% destroyed house on it (although empty is probably worth more). if there's a habitable but extremely shitty post war sears catalog house on it add another 0.5m on top of the land.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

lol -- you realize that for many of here a $146k house is something that hasn't existed since the 1980s?

Well yes! But you also realize that I live in North Hooterville, and that a house price jumping 120% in 20 years should be scary wherever you live!

My point more about RVs costing more than homes did not too long ago -- homes far from any coast, mind you!

pplains, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

And then you've got mobile home owners –- not RVers -- thinking they've got a deal, except when an investment company buys up all the lots in the trailer park and raises the rent for the land underneath the mobile home. It's no wonder why you'd want something that can make a quick getaway.

pplains, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

My point more about RVs costing more than homes did not too long ago -- homes far from any coast, mind you!

indeed! ... here it's more about the comparison between RV prices & apartment rents ... where, apartment rents are high, but an RV would cost more than several years' worth of expensive apartment rent.

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

which is why you have people living in minivans made in the 1990s

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

I don't know what to say about a country that's seeing its parking lots getting gentrified.

pplains, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

Just waiting for that to be shifted to a hip positive. "When you build your side-house...", not unlike insufficient primary income requiring a "side-hustle".

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

o lord those mobile homes, could be a nice concept but no, it's just more demons cracking open the bones of the poor to lick out every last scrap of marrow

The Cold, Hard Lessons of Mobile Home U.

The Cold, Hard Lessons of Mobile Home U.

Gary Rivlin
March 13, 2014

“Don’t get too hung up on appearances,” Frank Rolfe reminded us as our tour bus made its way to the first of several trailer parks we would visit on a bright Saturday afternoon in Southern California. “Remember, you don’t have to live in these homes.”

It was Day 2 of Mobile Home University, an intensive, three-day course on how to strike it rich in the trailer-park business. Seventy-five or so students had signed up for the class, which Rolfe offers every other month in different places around the country. Most of the enrollees weren’t real estate speculators; they were jittery members of a hard-pressed middle class. They were nervous about retirement. Or they were worried about their jobs moving overseas. Or they were making $100,000 a year, maybe even $200,000, but felt the need to earn more. All of them, though, had somehow come to see the lowly mobile home as their vehicle to financial freedom. “It’s about self-preservation,” one 42-year-old attendee told me. He had flown down from San Francisco for the seminar because he hated his job selling health care plans.

Our first stop was Green Lantern Village in Westminster, a city of 90,000, landlocked between Santa Ana and Huntington Beach. Green Lantern is a giant patch of asphalt crammed with 130 trailers. We gathered in a circle around Rolfe and the lot’s manager and listened as the manager explained that rents at Green Lantern had been bumped up by more than 30 percent over the past three years. The Mobile Home U. students nodded appreciatively: They learned early in the course that one of the best things about investing in trailer parks is that ambitious landlords can raise the rent year after year without losing tenants. The typical resident is more likely to endure the increase than pay a trucking company the $3,000 it can easily cost to move even a single-wide trailer to another park. As Rolfe put it, an “extra $10 or $20 a month isn’t going to bankrupt anyone.” He compared the hikes with cable companies’ annual bump in fees, which get people into “the habit.” Raising rents by 30 percent might sound steep for trailer-park tenants, who at Green Lantern earn $40,000 on average, but the manager explained why that isn’t the case, as if he were reading from the 500-page instruction manual Rolfe distributed on the first day. For years, Green Lantern rented only to people 55 or older. But these days, the manager told us, a trailer is just as likely to be filled by a two-income family “making minimum wage at a Taco Bell.” There was a murmur of approval: Another early lesson was that whereas seniors tend to live on fixed incomes, greatly limiting their ability to absorb rent increases, working parents “can always pick up extra hours,” as Rolfe put it, even if they’re struggling.

Rolfe is a tall, slouchy man with sad blue eyes and a mop of dark hair that has gone gray around the temples. He and his business partner, Dave Reynolds, started buying trailer parks together shortly after the subprime meltdown. Using their own money and millions more from outsider investors — including many who have been through Mobile Home University — they have been buying about two dozen parks a year. They now own 100 in 16 states (but none in California). By making what Rolfe calls a “contrarian bet on a poorer America,” they have posted an annual return of roughly 25 percent, a rate at which they and their investors are doubling their money about every four years. By catering to those living on the economic margins, their parks generated more than $30 million in revenue last year. More than half of that was profit.

But the most striking aspect of their business is how happy their tenants seem to be. A few months after completing Rolfe’s course, I traveled to St. Louis to spend some time in a couple of parks that he and Reynolds own. (They let me choose where I wanted to stay.) To a person, the residents I met declared themselves satisfied with their landlords. A few, like Linda Wright, a former Walmart employee who has lived in the Jeffco Estates trailer park in Arnold, Mo., for the past 47 years, gushed about their ownership. Wright, who was the park manager when Rolfe and Reynolds took over early last spring, said the rutted roads in the park flooded every time it rained. Drug use was rampant, as were fights; the flashing lights from police cars routinely lit up the nights. When Rolfe and Reynolds bought the park, they repaved the streets and fixed the drainage system. They removed the most dilapidated trailers. And despite Wright’s being a thorn in the side of the previous owners, the new owners kept her on as a manager, drawn, Rolfe said, by Wright’s my-way-or-the-highway aggressiveness. “You get with the program in my park,” Wright, a slight, white-haired woman, told me with her arms crossed. “Or you’re out.”

Can a business that’s trying to squeeze every dime out of the working poor still offer them a pretty good deal? “We can’t imagine wanting to live anywhere else,” said Wright, who scoffed when I pointed out she’s on the company payroll. “Trust me,” interjected her husband, John Wright, a retired auto porter. “If she was unhappy with something, she’d tell you.” To the extent that hers is a genuine and representative sentiment, the people involved with Mobile Home U. — instructors, enrollees, alumni investors — may represent the best thing going in affordable housing at a time when the nation’s need for low-cost places to live has never been greater.

The mobile home as we know it appeared at the start of the automobile era as a pricey, wood-paneled plaything of the very wealthy — a way for them to travel in comfort on long trips before motels lined the roads. The trailer’s transition to housing was helped by World War II, when the federal government purchased tens of thousands of utilitarian trailers as a quick and easy way to house workers near factories producing war-related goods. After the war, small trailer parks popped up on college campuses to accommodate the influx of former soldiers under the G.I. Bill. It wasn’t until the ’50s that the mobile home became a low-cost residence that, despite its name, almost never moved once it was delivered to one of the thousands of trailer parks that were sprouting up around the country.

There are 8.6 million mobile homes in the United States, according to a 2013 U.S. Census Bureau report. Some are a lone trailer on an individual’s property, while others might be parked on Native American reservations, but an estimated 12 million people, Rolfe says, live in an actual trailer park. That number is not likely to grow, we learned in Southern California, given restrictive zoning laws and the prohibitive cost of building a new park in the boonies, meaning supply is static even as demand for cheap places to live is high. “It’s just an absolutely great time to be in the mobile-home business, with all the people who have been displaced from their homes because of foreclosures or they’ve lost a job or what have you,” says Stu Silver, who runs a rival trailer-park seminar called SAM (“special advanced mentoring”) camp.

In 2003, Warren Buffett paid $1.7 billion to buy Clayton Homes, one of the country’s largest manufacturers of mobile homes. The industry’s other boldfaced name is Sam Zell, the Chicago-based real estate magnate perhaps best known for his disastrous, debt-heavy takeover of The Chicago Tribune, The Los Angeles Times and other dailies owned by the Tribune conglomerate. Zell is chairman of Equity LifeStyle Properties, which he took public in the early 1990s, when the company was called Manufactured Home Communities. With nearly 140,000 lots scattered across more than 370 communities, Equity LifeStyle is the mobile-home industry’s largest landlord. Given that at various times Zell has owned more office space, as well as more apartment buildings, than any other entrepreneur in the United States, it’s indicative of the riches to be made on this down-at-the-heels edge of the housing market that a mogul like Zell is so heavily invested in trailer parks. Not that the marketing departments at either Zell’s or Buffett’s company would describe one of its properties as a “trailer park.” They wouldn’t even use “mobile-home park.” Clayton builds and provides the financing for “manufactured homes” — grand things compared with the typical trailer — that end up in “manufactured-home communities” like the ones owned and operated by Equity LifeStyle. Its website features a montage of sun-splashed photos filled with tennis courts, swimming pools and lakes, and its properties often include clubhouses. “If you’ve never experienced the manufactured-home-community way of life, you don’t know really what a nice lifestyle it can be,” Chrissy Jackson, an industry consultant, told me. If nothing else, the look and feel of the communities she was talking about are several notches above the trailer park most of us imagine.

Frank Rolfe rolls his eyes when he hears this kind of talk. He tells people he’s in the “mobile home” or “trailer park” business because that’s how customers talk. As for features like swimming pools? When Rolfe and Reynolds buy a park with a pool, they usually shut it down to rid themselves of the operating expense and the liability. Trees? They don’t cut them down, but they don’t plant many either. In their view, the root systems of trees are a threat to the sewer lines that crisscross any park. “We don’t like laundry rooms or vending machines,” Rolfe told the class. “We don’t like amenities of any kind.” They also prefer to buy used trailers to fill empty lots at their parks. That keeps expenses down for those paying both the lot rent, or “dirt rent,” which every resident pays each month, and the rent on their trailer — half of which can be applied toward purchasing any available unit. A used three-bedroom trailer can cost between $10,000 and $20,000, depending on its age, and take 10 years or so to pay for. The typical tenant who rents from Rolfe and Reynolds pays $250 or $300 a month in lot rent and another $200 or $300 if also renting a trailer. “The trailer park is people’s last choice,” Rolfe says, “and we recognize that.”

There were 211,000 fewer units of public housing in the United States in 2012 than there were in 1995, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. Federal spending on rental assistance programs has remained flat in recent years, according to the center, even as the number of households that the Department of Housing and Urban Development classifies as “worst case” rose by 43 percent between 2007 and 2011. A study by the Center for Housing Policy found that among renters who have a job, one in four was spending at least half of his or her income for an apartment. “We’re trying to make things as cheap as possible,” Rolfe said.

While Rolfe, who is 52 and has a degree in economics from Stanford, can come off at times as a caricature of the coldhearted capitalist, during his Mobile Home University courses, he also gives voice to left-wing critiques about the profound fissures in our economy. One in five households, he told the class, lives on less than $20,000 a year. A significant portion of the 10,000 Americans who turn 65 every day are facing life on a fixed monthly income of $1,200 or less. He is an admitted profiteer thriving on the collateral damage caused by our winner-take-most economy, but he also is a zealous student of the constantly changing landscapes of American poverty. “The bottom line is Americans as a group are getting poorer,” he told his students — and while that’s bad news for those living on the economic fringes, it also means opportunities for those willing to take advantage of the trend.

Rolfe was still in high school when a teacher helped him get a summer job at a local advertising agency in the Dallas area. “I felt like I found my place in the world,” he recalls. It wasn’t the creative side of the ad business that moved him but simply the camaraderie he felt working side by side with his fellow employees. “I wasn’t into sports,” he says. “I didn’t have many friends.” He was the first one in the office each day and usually didn’t leave until ordered to go home. To this day, he confesses, “I get sad on weekends because there aren’t other people around working.”

Rolfe, who lives in a small town one hour south of St. Louis, has always looked older than his years, he says, so much so that when he was in his 20s, people mistook him for someone twice his age. Back then, he imagined he would earn an M.B.A. and maybe work at an investment bank. But his brother told him business schools wanted their students to have at least a year of practical experience, and so he went into the billboard business, buying first one billboard, and then a few more, until a decade later he was up to 300 when another company bought him out for $5.8 million. At 35, he had to decide what to do with the rest of his life.

Before Rolfe bought a trailer park, he had visited only one, the Glenhaven Mobile Home Park in Dallas, when an out-of-town billboard client asked him to deliver a message to its manager. Rolfe says: “Invariably, the guy would open the door just wearing his underwear, totally hung over — ‘What do you want?’ ” Yet four months after selling his billboard company, Rolfe bought Glenhaven, a grim, junked-up, half-filled park, for $400,000. “The first thing I did was get a concealed-handgun license,” Rolfe says. “Because I was afraid I would get assaulted.”

This was 1996, near the start of the Internet era. At that point, a great many Stanford grads were lured to technology by the fortunes that could be made investing in dot-com start-ups. Rolfe had a couple of million dollars in the bank and a newborn daughter at home. Someone in those circumstances might be expected to choose a field that doesn’t entail carrying a loaded pistol to work each day, but Rolfe couldn’t help himself once he calculated the financial potential of Glenhaven. He eventually made more than a million-dollar profit on that one park. And maybe just as important, he discovered that he was drawn to what was to him an exotic, fringe world that he had stumbled into.

“I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, I don’t gamble,” he says. “I don’t travel, I don’t restore cars, I have no hobbies. I don’t do anything.” Trailer parks are his world, and after nearly two decades in the business, he can entertain his students with a near-endless repertoire of tales. One of the class’s favorites was the tenant who tried to drown his girlfriend — and then nearly became a murder victim himself when the same woman tried to saw off his head.

“I love the weirdness,” is how Rolfe put it to me, apparently unaware of how it might sound to some that a man who makes his money squeezing a little bit more out of the working poor also finds entertainment value in the pathologies of the more miserable among them.

After owning Glenhaven for a few months, Rolfe realized there was no reason to carry a gun to work. A year later, he also realized that he didn’t need to spend his days in the small manager’s office there. For a relatively nominal salary — these days, around $12,000 a year for the typical park plus a rent-free trailer — he could hire a manager and the day-to-day problems would be someone else’s. That freed Rolfe to roam the country in search of poorly managed parks to be bought on the cheap. His strategy drew the interest of a private equity firm that provided him with the money he needed to expand his empire. Rolfe had acquired two dozen parks when he reversed course, feeling emboldened by a spike in real estate prices that had potential buyers willing to purchase his properties for much more than he thought they were worth. By 2007, he had sold his entire portfolio, earning about as much on his trailer parks, he says, as he did from the sale of his billboard company.

Rolfe was still winding down his business in 2006 when he met Dave Reynolds at an industry conference. The two competitors agreed over lunch that they could do a much better job teaching people the nuts and bolts of the trailer-park business than the pair who had asked them to serve as guest speakers. If anything, Reynolds knew more about trailer parks than even Rolfe. Reynolds had been born into the business; his parents owned a mobile-home court in Colorado. He went to school to study accounting, but doing the books for the family opened his eyes to the profitability of a world he shunned growing up. “I was the middle-class kid suddenly having to live among the poor,” he said about the few months he had to live in his parents’ park as a kid. “I hated it.” But Reynolds realized that he “could make three times what I could have made as a C.P.A.” He bought his first park in 1993, when he was 24.

At first, Rolfe and Reynolds both taught the curriculum they created. But then a couple of years ago, Reynolds calculated the hours he was devoting to teaching a three-day course six times a year during boom times for the trailer-park industry. By that point, the two of them were searching the country for parks to buy. “There were better uses of my time,” he concluded. That meant more work for Rolfe, who was happy to pick up the slack. “Some people dream of going to the beach,” he says. “I dream of going to an office.”

Mobile Home University costs $2,000. Somewhere between 30 and 40 people sign up for the course when it’s held in Denver, say, or Columbus, Ohio. But larger, more diverse crowds invariably show up in Southern California. At the Orange County sessions I attended, those enrolled included a pastor from a small church outside Portland, Ore.; a 26-year-old who made a small fortune playing online poker; and an Iraq war veteran who had recently completed a five-year stint in the military.

As an instructor, Rolfe has a veritable Ph.D. in the habits and rituals of trailer-park residents. It’s as if he carries a map in his head based on trailer parks he has bought or at least contemplated buying and that gives him a fascinating, if perhaps narrow, view of his fellow citizens. Trailer-park residents living in the North, he told everyone, are rock-solid citizens compared with their counterparts in the South. For one thing, they tend to be neater and also more responsible. In Texas, for instance, 5 to 6 percent of their tenants are delinquent each month paying the rent, compared with less than 2 percent of those living in parks in Wisconsin, North Dakota or Minnesota.

Rolfe avoids buying any parks in New York and California; both states are too “tenant friendly,” he said — too much in the way of time and money are required to evict someone who is behind on the rent. And forget Las Vegas, Phoenix and other locales hit hard by the subprime meltdown. The glut of cheap homes represents competition. “If we look on Zillow and see houses selling for $30,000 or $50,000, we’re walking from that deal,” Rolfe said. In most of the country, the key to calibrating the proper rent means knowing the price of a decent two-bedroom in the surrounding area. If the going rate is $700 a month, Rolfe said, then cap your lot rent at half that. And think long and hard, he warned the class, before crossing the $500 threshold. The industry “sweet spot” is a lot rent of $495, he explained, but raising it by another $5 “could mean death.” On the other hand, Rolfe said, you can always have your tenants pay for water, which is a trailer-park owner’s largest expense.

Rolfe doesn’t offer much practical advice about overcoming any embarrassment in associating yourself with the trailer-park business. That, it seems, is something attendees have worked out for themselves before plunking down their tuition. Among those I spent time with in Orange County was Jefferson Lilly, who had made a lot of money working sales jobs at a series of Silicon Valley-based technology start-ups. “At first I was like, ‘No way am I buying a freaking trailer park,’ ” said Lilly, a clean-cut, 46-year-old Ivy Leaguer who lives in San Francisco. But when he discovered the price of apartment buildings and compared them with the cost of trailer parks, he found himself reconsidering. What difference did it make, Lilly asked himself, whether he bought a trailer park or an apartment building when he wasn’t going to live in either one?

One of the first parks Rolfe and Reynolds bought together was the Holiday Manufactured Home Community in Pontoon Beach, Ill. It was there at this predominantly white, 217-lot park that I lived as Rolfe and Reynolds’s guest for the better part of a week last summer.

A mobile-home park feels more like an army base than a neighborhood. A trailer is still a trailer, even with the vinyl siding and pitched roofs that are now common, and all but the priciest parks include the familiar Truman-era rectangular metal mobile homes and wooden ones that are also decades old. To maximize the number of homes that can fit in a park, trailers are arranged so passers-by generally see the sides of people’s rectangular boxes (spaced 15 to 20 feet apart) rather than their front entrances.

Still, people make the effort to personalize their homes at Pontoon Beach. Everywhere I looked, I saw handsome wooden decks thick with potted plants, American flags, chimes and wooden birds whose wings twirl with the wind. The residents had planted shrubs and rose bushes and small flower beds bordered by rocks.

I heard the occasional complaint during my time at Pontoon Beach — kids riding their bikes in the street, potholes patched instead of streets repaved — but they sounded like what you might hear at the monthly meeting of a suburban homeowner’s association. More typical was the view of Alisha Stanek, a 22-year-old high-school dropout with an 8-month-old daughter. Including the installment payments on a used, three-bedroom, two-bath trailer, she was spending $550 a month on rent. “I couldn’t find a house for even close to that,” Stanek said.

Others even expressed feelings of superiority to those burdened with big mortgages or hefty monthly rents, including Barbara Watz. She moved to Pontoon Beach in 1978, a single woman in her 40s working at a blood clinic. She could have bought a tiny house on her salary, but a two-bedroom, one-bath trailer cost less per month than her car payment — and meant she was done with house payments after a few years. Now 76 and retired, Watz pays $285 a month in lot rent and spends her days reading murder mysteries and tending to her plants. Watz drives a 2010 Honda S.U.V. and has the money for small splurges. (One day when we were talking, U.P.S. delivered to her a box of wooden ducks dressed in yellow raincoats.) Her only complaint about living in a mobile-home park? “The trailer trash, redneck jokes I’ve been hearing since the day I moved in,” she said.

There’s some nobility in the Rolfe-Reynolds business model. The parks they take over tend to be in lousy shape, and they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars fixing them up. In that way, they’re the trailer-park equivalent of the developer who buys abandoned properties in the Bronx and converts them into livable places that are, at least, clean and safe. “There’s more money in decent than slumlording,” Rolfe told the class in Orange County. Run a lousy park, he warned, and you’ll never keep tenants. They’ll skip out owing rent, and it will cost you thousands of dollars to fix up the trailers they trash before leaving. Rolfe says he shudders at the thought of losing money to the multimillion-dollar negligence suits that result from cutting corners.

A Rolfe-Reynolds park is, if nothing else, well run. Based on what I saw, tenants kept their lots junk-free and the grass mowed — or management will take care of things and send you the bill. Rolfe and Reynolds begin eviction proceedings on a tenant as soon as local laws allow, even if a tenant is just two or three weeks late in paying the rent. “Ours is a strict ‘no pay, no stay’ policy,” Rolfe says. The practice helps rid their parks of bad seeds and ne’er-do-wells — though that’s little consolation to the newly laid-off tenant who now has to simultaneously think about finding a new job and a new place to live, while facing the possibility that he’s about to lose whatever equity he has in his home. And most do have considerable equity invested, given that four out of five are paying only a monthly lot rent, which means they own their trailer outright or are making payments to a third party. If their trailer parks can be viewed as part of the new safety net, it’s a fragile one.

The trailer park also seems a bad deal for the manager. After all, it’s the managers who deal with a clogged sewer line or the unstable tenant behind in his rent — in exchange for a low-paying job that doesn’t even offer health insurance. Yet Rolfe has a point when he argues that it’s often better than most of the alternatives. He mentions Linda Wright, who manages his park in Arnold, Mo. “What was she making at Walmart: $13 an hour?” Rolfe asked. “For $25,000 a year, she had to be in that store eight hours a day, driving there, had a boss. Now she’s making close to the same with us, in her own house. She’s her own boss.”

Rolfe confesses to feeling some guilt that he owns the largest house in his hometown while his customers are making do in cramped quarters. It breaks his heart, he confesses, when they evict a family even as he tells himself it’s for the best. He acknowledges he has made millions of dollars warehousing those living on the economic margins. But what if you simply want to keep your monthly living expenses low so you have a nest egg for emergencies — or have the option to take in a movie or buy some wooden ducks every once in a while? Or what if Pontoon Beach is simply your best option? With around 10,000 lots scattered mostly across the Midwest and the Central Plains, Rolfe and Reynolds are about equivalent in size to a public-housing agency in a midsize city — and in an important way, they play the same role. Those living in public housing are generally required to pay up to 30 percent of their household income as their share of the rent. Rolfe and Reynolds’s tenants pay on average closer to 20 percent. And unlike the civil servants working for a housing agency, their managers know they must enforce the rules or they’re out. “We go through managers like crazy,” Rolfe says.

Their tenants, though, tend to stay if for no other reason than a lack of options. The average resident has “such bad credit,” Rolfe said, that it would be a deal-killer for most landlords running credit checks on potential tenants. Those who are retired are thankful that they own a place of their own, even if it’s only a metal box, because it allows them to live on the little they have. And here Rolfe and Reynolds are providing safe, low-cost housing to those who can’t afford to pay more or choose not to.

“We’re the Dollar General store of housing,” Rolfe said, adding, with an amiable grin, “If you can’t afford anything else, then you’ll live with us.”

bule bulak oying (cat), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

shit, oops

bule bulak oying (cat), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link

i will become a good poster one day i promise

bule bulak oying (cat), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

Needs more guns.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

i know just the guy!

bule bulak oying (cat), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

lol

You got the hook up

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

My partner and I lived in a 14 foot UHaul that we converted ourselves for close to four years, first in the Bay Area and then in NorCal. It was difficult, interesting, freeing, difficult, mind-expanding, difficult, and difficult. I would only do it again if I had much more money, which I now do, but now we own a real house.

That said we think often about buying a plot of land in Maine or Vermont and plopping a UHaul down on it.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

here's another sad thing -- part of the reason why living in a vehicle is more affordable is because it isn't a building. The vehicle doesn't even have to be drive-able. It just has to be a structure on wheels. If it's on wheels, it's not a building. If it's not a building, it isn't subject to the same code requirements as a building.

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

that sounds really fascinating, table! i'd love to read more about it if you were willing to go into detail? maybe on another thread, if it's too far from the subject of this one (and if it's not too exhausting to think about, lol)

alt/creative/cheapo housing for the houseless or some such, because all the good dumpsters are +$250k

bule bulak oying (cat), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link


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