Working From Home

Good for you, I'm definitely stubborn about smartphone requirements. It was nothing as essential as that, but there was a work app to help coordinate a conference, and I couldn't download it on my old android Galaxy S6 or whatever. I was basically like, well, that won't be happening, guess I'll look at someone else's phone if necessary.

made the HR report/complaint today.

I suspect there might actually be a secondary option available that hasn't been broadly communicated, but nobody seems interested in sharing it, so this should force that out into the open.

did it anonymously so my boss's boss doesn't think I am selling her out, as it was not her decision (it was leadership's).

i am so disengaged due to life distractions and the aforementioend issues that I'm barely phoning it in at a very low level right now. wonder how long before someone notices.

every single group zoom call makes me want to scream now

Well thats what mute is for ive always presumed

I did a lot of group zoom calls with my family over the last year, but we got really tired of it and we can see each other in person now. I just participate in zoom book club meetings at this point, since our members are scattered across the country

In practical terms I've only had to do two regular Zoom meetings a month, each an hour long, one with a team of about ten and the other just three. I can live with that, and certainly I'm not going back until maybe sometime in March.

i’m in them at least 2-3 times a week for work now & i hate every minute

genuine question--if you don't mind articulating, what do you hate about zoom meetings?

Fucking sitting down at a desk/table in my house or wherever. I don't mind Zoom at my work office, oddly. No question it's made life easier: no need to drive to campus for that 30-minute meeting, but the idea of Zoom-ing all day induces vomiting.

xpost

varying connection speeds
loudness/softness due to connection speeds
tinny voices due to connection speeds
ppl talking over each other

i find them v exhausting with my particular group of coworkers

if i could remote work without video meetings i’d be v happy

ppl talking over each other

i find them v exhausting with my particular group of coworkers

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl)

^^ this. Imagine egotistical faculty.

try 12 salespeople 😖

yeah that's interesting because some of the positive feedback i've heard is that zoom kind of flattens everyone so that no one person can take over a discussion. but university faculty would probably take that as a challenge ime

lol as would salespeople on their worst behavior

Feel like exactly the opposite is true tbh, v easy to take over a zoom call and any more than about 5 on it requires srs management

Feel like exactly the opposite is true tbh, v easy to take over a zoom call and any more than about 5 on it requires srs management

i'm in like 3-5 zoom calls per day, it's just what work is now. i've gotten used to it i think. one nice thing that some people have started doing is scheduling them to start at 5 or 10 minutes past the hour or whatever, so you don't going directly back to back.

or whatever the english for that sentiment is

Bluetooth headphones save my sanity on long remote meetings. I roam all over the place, clean cat boxes, yell nsfw nonsequiters, use my giant tape roller on the floors, water plants. Super thankful most don't use video anymore.

Same. My office is on Skype. Boss once clicked the video button call and I just hit the answer- audio- only button or whatever cuz fuck that. I dunno if he even meant to have video. Video seems more assumed on Zoom.

I was brought back to office full time suddenly 2 weeks ago, it is wildly tiring.

if you're the host, zoom allows you to mute everyone, so you can totally control the discussion. i very rarely host zoom meetings, but i think you have to tinker with the settings and it may be a paid feature. it has been done in meetings i've attended, for sure

we use teams for most meetings, though. i don't mind it, actually. the only issue is our vpn doesn't play nice with it so sometimes we're forced to use zoom (sometimes we can't disable vpn due to legal/safety precautions)

we had a "no meeting august" or whatever where we were forced to reduce the amount of (1) time spent at meetings and (2) number of meetings in general for the month

it worked out okay. i was able to reduce my meetings in general from 60% of my time (say, a week) to around 30%, but i deliberately do not attend some i'm invited to and just get any info needed from other colleagues, if i need to. i think people are generally on board with less meetings and reducing time spent on them. most people shoot for 30 minute meetings now, which i think makes sense. we had a lot of hour-long meetings before and lots of people got pretty angry at that

luckily, turning on my video is rarely required, so i usually chill on the couch for the long ones

it's still a million times better than in-person meetings

60% of a normal week in meetings?!

it was very bad. it's mostly because i'm on a lot of different projects and people always want me to stay in the loop because they don't want to have to explain anything i may need to know. keyword is "may need to." it's usually PMs scared of technical details and stuff that want me to join. but i really do not need to know all the details. i can usually get away with not attending until i get around to something and then i can ping a dev that knows exactly what i need. luckily a couple of those projects have wrapped up

having said that, i've been on meetings with stakeholders (PMs, account executives, etc.) where people are literally coding on the fly to fix an issue and we're checking data. lol. jesus. those don't happen often but some of those lasted probably three hours

Hmm. Sounds like you're going to have to hire me. This is from home indefinitely?

well, i requested to work from home permanently and they accepted. but the company hasn't really said what's happening in the future. for now, they've said we are all working from home until further notice. and that once we are able to get back into the office, it will be a hybrid model. super light on details, though

since we're not an actual dev company, we hardly hire devs anymore. what's your stack?

My job has literally become 7-8 hours/day Teams meetings. I hate everything about this turn of events. What used to be resolved with casual conversations in the hall now requires someone to book 1/2 hour a week in advance because everyone’s calendar is chockablock.

What's a stack? ... Where do you see me in 5 years?

lol! oh okay!

xxp That's straight up hardcore. You've changed.

We have a new “work from Hell” mandate

i’m going back in 2-3 days a week starting next week. Every Monday, then the other days kind of ad-hoc. Still very much an experiment. Kind of excited tbh!

i'm wfh into January at least, even then i'll work it to barely be in the office and if i get shit i'll bounce. i reject so many zoom meeting invites, you'd be surprised what you can get away with ; )

we have the option to wfh for 2 days a week. I have opted out cos i live 15 mins down the road and it saves on my bills etc.

I may as well be wfh though, no fucker else seems ever to be in.

(our team is 7, there is always 2 on the late shift which is always wfh anyway)

we were extended to at least nov 22, after that i will go in 1x/week. another two months to not buy any clothes or shoes.

I can count on two hands how many times I have worn my dress slacks since March 2020.

I threw all mine out, nothing fits anymore.

I have been WFH indefinitely because I switched industries in late December 2020, and now I have another side gig that is also WFH...so looks like I won't ever have to wear dress slacks ever again. Hurray!

if you're the host, zoom allows you to mute everyone, so you can totally control the discussion. i very rarely host zoom meetings, but i think you have to tinker with the settings and it may be a paid feature. it has been done in meetings i've attended, for sure

I facilitated a meeting last week -- google meets, not zoom -- it was kinda funny realizing how my previous experience doing live sound for bands helped me as a facilitator, in that whenever there was feedback or weird loud noises, I would immediately look to see whose signal was responsible and mute them.

The logical next step is to be able to put some people through a vocorder, give others some reverse delay, maybe a light flanger.

Only the most astute contributors get the T-Pain filter

there are definitely some attendees that would benefit from plate reverb

my team all went back to the office this Monday. it was intense. so many FACES. so much chatter! i'm used to having a quiet room to myself!

something i've realised is that on Zoom you can study someone's expression, study someone's face, whether they're talking or not talking, and they DON'T KNOW YOU'RE DOING IT. try doing that in the real world and you're a freak!

OTM

sunglasses

*sigh*

I really miss working from home. Two months into full time back at the office and I'm struggling to find the pros. Lots of cons and it's frustrating how my place seemingly learned NOTHING and immediately shifted back into the worst tendencies and habits of the office.

It’s going to be fun to watch people’s reactions when they have to go back in January and realize management took the opportunity to get rid of snacks and beverages.

got rid of the entire office in my case

in fact today people shared on slack the auction listing for all our office furniture