U.S. Postal Service: salvageable or doomed?

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Thanks for the tip; I'll check it out!

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link

Of course! One of my dearest friends is an antiquarian book and rare record dealer, so he's filled me in on his processes.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link

Ordered a t-shirt. Got a notification that it was delivered in our mailbox Thursday at 6:08pm, but there was no mail at all that day. Got a second notification from the shipper that night at 10pm or so that it had been delivered, but still nothing in the box. The next day, Friday, we got two small packages via USPS, left on the porch, but nothing in the mailbox. I know that mail carriers sometimes scan things before they actually drop them off, so that they may show as "delivered" an hour or so before they show up, but to scan anything as delivered *days* before it's actually delivered (assuming the package is ever delivered)? That's just not cool.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 September 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link

re: the media mail discussion above, if you don't want to create an account with another service, and you already have a Paypal account, you can print labels here (and media rate is one of the options).

https://www.paypal.com/shiplabel/create/

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 25 September 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link

Xpost that happened to me once but with an entire order of contact lenses that I desperately needed. I raised a big fuss as I thought they were lost for a day

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 September 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link

Monday I went to the post office to tell them I got a delivery confirmation Thursday night for a package I never received. The worker (mask on chin, eating from a bag of candy at 10:45 in the morning) asked for my ID and went in the back for five minutes. She came back to tell me there was nothing there for me. I told her I was home and waiting for the package when it was supposedly delivered, and would have heard it delivered. She suggested it was stolen from our porch. I told her that we not only never received it, we received *no* mail that day. She just shrugged. Meanwhile, the place I ordered from told me they were not responsible for lost or stolen items, and that the only information they have is what the post office tells them.

Oh, well. I hope the mail carrier opens my package before they set it all on fire somewhere. They'll get a cool Low t-shirt.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link

:(

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

Sounds like you have a shitty local office. The few times something like this has happened to me, I'll complain to USPS Help on Twitter and I'm getting a phone call from the local office manager within hours. Just saying try Twitter if you're not ready to give up.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 18:51 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I'll try that. My wife suggested I even consider just asking a different person at the post office, one who maybe gives slightly more of a shit.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

esp best to get nipped in the bud now cos wait til it's something like medication that doesn't show up (which happened to my mother not long ago)

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link

I received a note from our letter carrier late last week that they tried to deliver a package and we weren't there, but they couldn't leave it because $5 in postage was due so I had to pick it up. I've never encountered this.

Based on the address, I realized that my sister mailed me a birthday present and contacted her. She had delivery tracking on the package, contacted the PO, and determined that the postage had fallen off the package! They were able to honor the postage based on the delivery tracking and the package was delivered this week, but that's a new one for me.

Taliban! (PBKR), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link

My old (and more reliable) mail delivery person once asked me for a dime so that he could hand me an envelope that had insufficient postage on it lol

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link

Still waiting on that t-shirt, assuming it's lost forever. Also still waiting on a very expensive book order from the UK that was mailed 2+ weeks ago.

My friend the rare record and book dealer told me a story just yesterday— he had some original 1971 Allman Brothers Band posters in mint condition. They go for ~$750+ a piece. So he packaged them expertly, and sent them off 2-3 day priority with insurance.

Two of the posters took 13 days, and the other took 9— and that latter one was traveling from Philadelphia, PA, to Red Bank, NJ, which is a two hour drive.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link

Those are the ones that get me, where I would have had time to walk to the postal facility in question and back a few dozen times before the package ever arrived.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link

My shirt showed up on my front steps today, almost a full week after I was notified it was delivered. Best case scenario, I've got to assume it got misdelivered and finally made its way back to me.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link

Had a package of Canadian eye medicine left on my porch, meant for someone with same house number but completely different street. The package had the correct recipient's phone number, so called her a few times and she came by to grab it, two days after it'd been delivered. A day after that, I was luckily home when PO delivery guy rang bell looking to track it down. He was happy it'd made its way to the right person. Gave me a little more faith that they're aware of and trying to rectify any errors.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

Fucking great. Why the fuck can't the board just oust this waste of human skin.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/usps-advances-dejoy-s-plan-make-mail-delivery-permanently-slower-n1280337

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

At this point I can only assume the board has no desire to oust him and he's here for the long haul.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link

Tbh it's these sorts of things even more than the "more visible" stuff that has convinced me that this country is utterly fucked. The one thing we did well, gone to shit so some absolutely craven Mr. Clean looking motherfucker can line his pockets. Sickening.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link

My cynicism tells me the rest of the board figured out how to also line their pockets with him running things, so they don't gaf.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

"The US Postal Service implemented new service standards on October 1, which will slow mail delivery times across many parts of the country. First-class mail traveling longer distances will now take three to five days to arrive as opposed to the previous two days, according to The Washington Post. Temporary price increases will begin October 3 on all domestic commercial and retail packages through the holiday season, reports USA Today. The changes are part of embattled Postmaster General Louis DeJoy's 10-year plan to cut costs that was unveiled earlier this year, CNN reports."

On the bright side, prices are going up.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 2 October 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link

https://about.usps.com/who/leadership/board-governors/ron-bloom.htm

this is the guy obstructing DeJoy getting shitcanned - a Democrat but Trump appointee who ensures it would be a 5-4 vote at best

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 2 October 2021 02:45 (two years ago) link

the Democratic Congress and President could have repealed the retirement pre-funding provision hamstringing at any point in the last 9 months but lol

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 2 October 2021 02:48 (two years ago) link

I'm pretty much convinced that I have wasted $200 on things that will never arrive now.

Also convinced that this is part of a larger plan to just consolidate all business so that it funnels through Amazon. Those are the only deliveries that are never delayed. I wonder why.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Saturday, 2 October 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link

I'm ultimately fine with planning on mail taking 3-5 days vs. 2 as long as I know it will take 3-5 days and not two weeks or never.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 October 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link

Yeah certainty of that 3-5 days is key, not the crapshoot that is happening now.

I’m old enough to remember when the USPS guaranteed that first class mail would be delivered overnight within 200 miles, and all first class mail over 200 miles (domestically) was sent by air.

And of course the worms! (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 2 October 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link

If they're slowing down service, they're going to hire less new carriers i would guess and try to push more into retirement... so I'm skeptical service will get better

Nhex, Saturday, 2 October 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

If they're slowing down service, they're going to hire less new carriers i would guess and try to push more into retirement... so I'm skeptical service will get better

There are big "We're Hiring" signs stuck in the lawn in front of my local post office, FYI. But I looked on the USPS website and none of the jobs were actually in my town, they were in other parts of the state.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 2 October 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link

Given the number of different mail carriers we've had over the last year or so they are clearly hiring lots of people here, but I guess not for more than a day or two at a time, and with a few days off in between.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 October 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link

they're hiring people for year-long contracts with no benefits or security

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Sunday, 3 October 2021 16:43 (two years ago) link

i know because i almost accepted a letter carrier job in 2020 and that was the reality of the situation

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Sunday, 3 October 2021 16:43 (two years ago) link

yes, and they have to work 60-80 hour weeks

sleeve, Sunday, 3 October 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link

Yeah, it's fucked. I don't blame the letter carriers for sometimes making mistakes, or even occasionally really fucking up (as one of ours has done pretty recently).

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Sunday, 3 October 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

a friend of mine did it for maybe a year, like 2-3 years back. he quit after a day when they made him work in a state of total exhaustion, after he said he couldn't, and he clipped two vehicles with his truck.

sleeve, Sunday, 3 October 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

My MiL was a letter carrier for 25 years in the Finger Lakes and walked in snow and ice several months of the year. I have mad respect for how difficult the job is.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Sunday, 3 October 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link

As of Friday, USPS asked customers (in a notice on its website) to "please refrain" from mailing items to Australia, New Zealand and 20 other countries, as they will no longer deliver to those destinations.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 3 October 2021 18:42 (two years ago) link

i’m so fucking upset - i had christmas presents almost prepped to send next week because i knew with slowdown they would take forever

here’s the full list of affected destinations from USPS.com

https://about.usps.com/newsroom/service-alerts/international/welcome.htm

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

The last time I tried to mail something to family in Australia I want to say they were asking $70 to send a $10 book, so we'd pretty much just given up sending things, anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 October 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

i send stuff 4 or 5 times a year! all my family are there

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 October 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

I started as a carrier last week, haven't been scared away yet haha

the adventures of pavlo and schrödis (geoffreyess), Sunday, 3 October 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

When the f are they going to get rid of DeJoy?

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 3 October 2021 21:10 (two years ago) link

if Biden or anybody in the White House could, he'd be gone. but the Board of Governors are the only ones who can and they're not unhappy w/ him cos they're also sons of bitches

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 October 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link

true, but, as noted above, Biden etc could remove the pre-funding nonsense if they wanted

so I guess that's the next thing I yell at my Senators about

sleeve, Sunday, 3 October 2021 21:29 (two years ago) link

(I guess my point is, that would help even if Dejoy remained)

sleeve, Sunday, 3 October 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link

geoffreyess wow! what's it like?

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 3 October 2021 21:31 (two years ago) link

If the new service standards weren't cover for further crippling the Post Office, I think it would probably be a good thing to normalize packages taking longer to be shipped across this giant country. Have a special class of faster service for medicine (the opposite of media mail) but let general Priority take 7 business days to get from New York to California.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 3 October 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link

wow! what's it like?

all the walking and going into random buildings I've always wanted, but the staffing/overtime situation is uh quite something, so we'll see how I feel in a few weeks or months. everyone's incredibly nice.

the adventures of pavlo and schrödis (geoffreyess), Sunday, 3 October 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link

lol like an open-world game where all the doors work

what is the staffing/overtime situation

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 3 October 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

Good luck, Geof!

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 4 October 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link

To be fair the Australian postal service is fucked right now because they have so many staff isolating for COVID reasons (who’d have thought people who move around the community and interact with thousands would be high risk)

I just had an express mail thing take three days from Portland to Sydney and sit there for a week. Regular price packages sit in Sydney for weeks.

Last Christmas DHL was quicker and cheaper sending from Australia using a Pack and Send shop. Doesn’t seem to be the case going the other way, though.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 4 October 2021 00:40 (two years ago) link


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