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Well... Elder's first fun was for governor of the most populous/wealthiest state in the union, I'd call that vanity. In the era of Trump, you don't mess around with the legislative branch, that's for losers and suckers.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

Vision Creation Newsome

sorry if that's joke already been made

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

Elder would have a harder time in the red districts beating a local conservative for the House, I think. He's too much an outsider for them to really latch on to (racially, place of origin (LA), occupation, etc). He did well there for the recall because it was more of a "fuck you" to Newsom.

nickn, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link

Let's say he moves to Irvine and runs against Katie Porter... I don't think the Republicans there will be like "well, he's not from Irvine..."

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

But the main thing he'll do is continue to grow his audience

Larry Elder's failed run for governor will help Elder back at his day job on the radio, his distributor predicts: Phil Boyce, SVP at Salem, says "I expect that he will pick up stations in the future because of this." https://t.co/wzWFPtc1jA

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) September 15, 2021

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link

Let's say he moves to Irvine

I'll stop you right here

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link

haha there are some nice parts!

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link

I attended/worked at UCI from 1992 to 2015, trust me I know the area! But, he won't.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:51 (two years ago) link

there needs to be a penalty for recall failure, like the sponsors and candidates need to be banished from california or something. otherwise there's nothing to stop them from canvassing continuously and getting lucky with an occasional goat rodeo from now until whenever climate change delivers a 12-month fire season.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 September 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link

They should have to reimburse the state for the costs of the recall

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 September 2021 00:13 (two years ago) link

Each signatory pays $250 would cover it.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 16 September 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link

Wait, Qanon people think the Space Force investigates election fraud?

Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link

That's precisely why Trump created the Force.. trust the plan, man

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:57 (two years ago) link

Very. I love that Aaron Park clown, talk about not getting it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 September 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

Like to think ol' Larry is realizing that maybe going down as a two-time loser two years in a row is not AS good for business as might be thought.

BREAKING: "It's hard to see how the outcome would be any different unless I was able to raise at least as much money as @GavinNewsom has spent, but even then the thing is daunting." @LarryElder to @FrankBuckleyTV on why he may not run for governor again in 2022 #InsideCAPolitics pic.twitter.com/m40jqAa7pE

— Inside California Politics (@CAinsider) September 16, 2021

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 September 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

good, now extend the eviction moratorium and fix the agencies that are your responsibiltiy you shiny mother fucker

This morning, with the recall behind him, Governor Gavin Newsom officially signed SB 9 and SB 10. Duplexes are legal across California. Cue wonky arguments over whether this means CA just ended single-family zoning or whether that happened several years ago with ADUs.

— Conor Dougherty (@ConorDougherty) September 16, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 16 September 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

Duplexes are legal across California.

...huh. This bemuses me because from 1979 to 1981 we lived in a duplex, though turning that around that was officer housing on Mare Island when it was actually a base, so I presume other rules applied.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 September 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link

RE: that Larry Elder clip - I think he just admitted this was all a PR stunt, and a successful one at that... burnished the brand, maybe picked up a few stations for his radio show; it served its purpose, time to move on

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 September 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link

xp i think the point is duplexes are presumptively legal everywhere. previously they weren't illegal, but they were only zoned in a very small fraction of the state.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 17 September 2021 00:47 (two years ago) link

Ah that makes sense.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 September 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link

basically, it re-writes zoning code such that a duplex is permitted wherever single family homes are permitted, but multi-unit housing is excluded. I am guessing there is a provision that also restricts municipalities from overwriting that code as well. ... As in this would be considered the "strictest application" and municipalities are generally only allowed to modify codes to make them stricter, not to loosen them. (for the most part)

sarahell, Friday, 17 September 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link

obviously there are areas where duplexes are illegal in that residential use is illegal.

sarahell, Friday, 17 September 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link

But seriously -- dude really needs to extend that eviction moratorium. If he wants the goodwill of the progressive left, and many democrats working at the local level ... like, if I were someone like say, Libby Schaaf (the female Gavin), a moderate Democrat with aspirations to higher office that really doesn't want to deal with the huge shitshow that would be managing a City where a significant portion of the population are at risk ... I would hold a motherfucking grudge if Gavin wasn't a team player and stuck me with that shitshow. Pretty much everyone at the local level that I'm aware of that are either "anti-capitalist left" (pro-tenant) or "POC to the front" progressives will be out for blood if that moratorium isn't extended.

sarahell, Friday, 17 September 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link

otm. i am going to use his 25 point win as an excuse to hold him to a standard consistent with his overwhelming mandate and stop worring about what people in beverly hills and eureka think.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 17 September 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link

Newsom's ever cared about what people in Eu-tweaka think?

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 17 September 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link

there are rich people there, I'm sure some of them own wineries!

sarahell, Friday, 17 September 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link

my only Eureka memory was having to go to the Eureka Kaiser ER when I was 7 and had a severe asthma attack ... it was quite nice! Much nicer than the Kaiser ER in San Jose.

sarahell, Friday, 17 September 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link

I'm pretty sure most of the money in Eureka is coming from marijuana, tbh

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 17 September 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

I guess that it's just that in comparison to Arcata, Eureka is a total dump.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 17 September 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link

Parts of Arcata are a total dump, to be fair.

One thing about driving through Eureka on the 101.. normally when you pass through a town, you might see rough characters on the outskirts, but in Eureka it's all the way through town: befuddled trimmigrants with pitbulls on a rope, sad drug refugees pushing shopping carts right through traffic, drunks snoozing on the sidewalk.. it's pretty sad from one end to the other.
It wasn't always like that, but it sure is now.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 September 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

Yeah, it's been like that since I first went there, often went through a few times per year for the decade or so I lived in California. Only stopped for any amount of time in Eureka twiceβ€” once to go to a surprisingly decent Vietnamese restaurant, and the other to go to Lost Coast Brewery to drink Fog Cutter from the tap.

I guess parts of the outskirts of Arcata are kind of dumpy, but compared to Eureka, it's a quaint Victorian village lol.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 17 September 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link

Eureka as seen from the road is rough, but they have a nice downtown.

DJI, Friday, 17 September 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

my Eureka experience was in like 1981

sarahell, Saturday, 18 September 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link

it's probably like when I moved to Oakland in the late 90s, and my parents were ... concerned about safety, because their perception of Oakland was based on the news in the 1970s/80s of white flight, poverty, the crack epidemic, and there were regular driveby shootings even in the "nice parts" ... but my grandmother remembered Oakland as a very very nice place that she went shopping sometimes in the 1940s/50s back when those beautiful old department store buildings downtown were actually department stores where ladies bought gloves and hats.

sarahell, Saturday, 18 September 2021 00:56 (two years ago) link

Ok

β€œI went to bed really wanting to put a For Sale sign in front of my house,” said Pickens, 50, as she sipped a chai tea latte outside Artisan Coffee in Janesville, population 1,400.

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 19 September 2021 03:15 (two years ago) link

Here's a response to the la times lassen county trump diner article:

1/ I’m normally a big fan of the LA Times rural CA dispatches but no one really paints an accurate picture of how rural California votes. β€œoverwhelmingly” misses a lot, without even counting the also rural North Coast the whole region…https://t.co/xQmJm3BSaI

— Travis Legault (@travisl_97) September 18, 2021

fajita seas, Monday, 20 September 2021 00:47 (two years ago) link

hehe

Orange County results in CA Governor elections:

2003: R+47
2006: R+44
2010: R+20
2014: R+11
2018: D+0.3
2021: D+3

— Ryan Matsumoto (@ryanmatsumoto1) September 23, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 23 September 2021 22:40 (two years ago) link

lovely stuff

GOP in CA hurting from party’s own conspiracy theories. Voters have bought into β€œmy vote doesn’t count in California, so therefore I’m not going to vote,” said Fred Whitaker, chairman of the Orange County GOP.
Via ⁦@LATSeema⁩ https://t.co/oMbOeSXrOZ

— Stuart Leavenworth (@sleavenworth) September 26, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Sunday, 26 September 2021 03:32 (two years ago) link

Typically a boisterous gathering, the three-day meeting in San Diego was among the grimmest in recent memory.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Sunday, 26 September 2021 03:33 (two years ago) link

That was a joy to read.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 September 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link

another

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/27/california-republicans-gop-514337

For years, Republicans in California ran candidates for marquee statewide races, lost and regrouped, certain that the next time might be different. That thinking has changed following their drubbing in the recall.

As the convention unfolded in half-empty meeting rooms at a waterfront hotel, there was no feting of Larry Elder, the conservative radio show host who excited the party’s rank-and-file in the recall β€” and who discovered that was nowhere near enough to unseat an incumbent Democratic governor. Elder himself was on the opposite coast, tweeting that he was β€œrecovering from the campaign in Key West, Florida.”

Nor was Kevin Faulconer, once widely considered the future of the state party, on the convention program. The former San Diego mayor, who did even worse than Elder in the recall election, took private meetings on the patio of a restaurant several blocks from the convention hotel, avoiding any confrontation with party activists who disdain his moderate politics.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 06:02 (two years ago) link

apparently he's a democrat?

Newsom signs AB 43 - greater flexibility on setting speed limits - and AB 917 - allowing camera enforcement of bus lanes/stops. Vetos legislation on "safe stopping" for bicyclists and banning enforcement of "jaywalking."https://t.co/QYJg2GSfe8

— Streetsblog CA (@StreetsblogCal) October 9, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:22 (two years ago) link

big Friday night!

BREAKING: @GavinNewsom vetoed #AB1456, arguably the most significant expansion of state financial aid in a generation and one that would have made about 150,000 more students, including 110,000 at community colleges, eligible for the Cal Grant. Context: https://t.co/bfxqjwIUKI

— Mikhail Zinshteyn (@mzinshteyn) October 9, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 9 October 2021 05:18 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Where would we ever get the money for that?

Seriously though, the surplus is needed so bad. We are looking at huge school budget cuts here in SF. Hopefully this will help.

DJI, Thursday, 18 November 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

Yeah SFUSD this year for us is looking great because the reality of the enrollment drop hasn't kicked in. Still, we've lost some great support staff at the nearby elementary school. Here's hoping this surplus + new board members (in my view) can keep it ok.

But as we like to point out in this thread, the coffers are filled overwhelmingly from the tech industry, and some day that might come back to haunt us again if we dont diversify...

Love it that even The Economist is shitting on SF these days. Hey assholes, I remember when Capp St was a red light district and people regularly got shot in the Mission. Fuck this right wing propoganda.

fajita seas, Friday, 19 November 2021 03:59 (two years ago) link

I remember when Capp St was a red light district and people regularly got shot in the Mission.

ah sigh, the good old days ...

sarahell, Friday, 19 November 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link

I remember when I could walk down 16th street and buy a 16oz beer for $1, table-score leftover burrito at Pancho Villa, emerge to find a guy with his eyeball hanging out of its socket and blood everywhere in the Mexican bar next to Pancho Villa, then get propositioned by a guy outside the same bar. and that was just the block between Mission and Valencia! lol

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 19 November 2021 22:35 (two years ago) link

Hey man I did all that in the Mission earlier this morning. By all that meaning I went to a bank, got some cash and went home.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 November 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link


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