SB 51: the California politics thread

Newsome's victory is indeed flawed and bad, but Newsom did all right.

dead nixon and reagan would've done better than elder, i think

xps

Elder did much, much better than the last guy they ran for governor. I see him as an ongoing concern.

Someone really needs to introduce these Q people to choose your own adventure books.

xp Much better? Not...really?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_gubernatorial_election#Results_2

If you take the basic yes/no as a de facto gubernatorial election, then Newsom's still doing better, and even as final votes are tallied I can't see it adjusting that much.

In that he'll make a lot of noise and could likely be the prospective winner in a GOP primary, no doubt. But that'll just make it easier to paint him as a sore loser.

Hoping Elder gets the nomination for the next election... Not only will he lose, he'll sink a bunch of down-ticket candidates with him

The thing about Elder is, if he runs for congress in the right district, he'll get elected. I don't think that was true for Cox because he is too vain and rich to even consider it.

Could see it on the one hand, on the other it seems that that's more the route for people to aim to become celebrities in the first place on that side of the GOP. Elder's already done that part, so.

Well... Elder's first fun was for governor of the most populous/wealthiest state in the union, I'd call that vanity. In the era of Trump, you don't mess around with the legislative branch, that's for losers and suckers.

Vision Creation Newsome

sorry if that's joke already been made

Elder would have a harder time in the red districts beating a local conservative for the House, I think. He's too much an outsider for them to really latch on to (racially, place of origin (LA), occupation, etc). He did well there for the recall because it was more of a "fuck you" to Newsom.

Let's say he moves to Irvine and runs against Katie Porter... I don't think the Republicans there will be like "well, he's not from Irvine..."

But the main thing he'll do is continue to grow his audience

Larry Elder's failed run for governor will help Elder back at his day job on the radio, his distributor predicts: Phil Boyce, SVP at Salem, says "I expect that he will pick up stations in the future because of this." https://t.co/wzWFPtc1jA

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) September 15, 2021

Let's say he moves to Irvine

I'll stop you right here

haha there are some nice parts!

I attended/worked at UCI from 1992 to 2015, trust me I know the area! But, he won't.

there needs to be a penalty for recall failure, like the sponsors and candidates need to be banished from california or something. otherwise there's nothing to stop them from canvassing continuously and getting lucky with an occasional goat rodeo from now until whenever climate change delivers a 12-month fire season.

They should have to reimburse the state for the costs of the recall

Each signatory pays $250 would cover it.

Wait, Qanon people think the Space Force investigates election fraud?

That's precisely why Trump created the Force.. trust the plan, man

feel good read https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-09-16/california-republican-future-after-recall

Very. I love that Aaron Park clown, talk about not getting it.

Like to think ol' Larry is realizing that maybe going down as a two-time loser two years in a row is not AS good for business as might be thought.

BREAKING: "It's hard to see how the outcome would be any different unless I was able to raise at least as much money as @GavinNewsom has spent, but even then the thing is daunting." @LarryElder to @FrankBuckleyTV on why he may not run for governor again in 2022 #InsideCAPolitics pic.twitter.com/m40jqAa7pE

— Inside California Politics (@CAinsider) September 16, 2021

good, now extend the eviction moratorium and fix the agencies that are your responsibiltiy you shiny mother fucker

This morning, with the recall behind him, Governor Gavin Newsom officially signed SB 9 and SB 10. Duplexes are legal across California. Cue wonky arguments over whether this means CA just ended single-family zoning or whether that happened several years ago with ADUs.

— Conor Dougherty (@ConorDougherty) September 16, 2021

Duplexes are legal across California.

...huh. This bemuses me because from 1979 to 1981 we lived in a duplex, though turning that around that was officer housing on Mare Island when it was actually a base, so I presume other rules applied.

RE: that Larry Elder clip - I think he just admitted this was all a PR stunt, and a successful one at that... burnished the brand, maybe picked up a few stations for his radio show; it served its purpose, time to move on

xp i think the point is duplexes are presumptively legal everywhere. previously they weren't illegal, but they were only zoned in a very small fraction of the state.

Ah that makes sense.

basically, it re-writes zoning code such that a duplex is permitted wherever single family homes are permitted, but multi-unit housing is excluded. I am guessing there is a provision that also restricts municipalities from overwriting that code as well. ... As in this would be considered the "strictest application" and municipalities are generally only allowed to modify codes to make them stricter, not to loosen them. (for the most part)

obviously there are areas where duplexes are illegal in that residential use is illegal.

But seriously -- dude really needs to extend that eviction moratorium. If he wants the goodwill of the progressive left, and many democrats working at the local level ... like, if I were someone like say, Libby Schaaf (the female Gavin), a moderate Democrat with aspirations to higher office that really doesn't want to deal with the huge shitshow that would be managing a City where a significant portion of the population are at risk ... I would hold a motherfucking grudge if Gavin wasn't a team player and stuck me with that shitshow. Pretty much everyone at the local level that I'm aware of that are either "anti-capitalist left" (pro-tenant) or "POC to the front" progressives will be out for blood if that moratorium isn't extended.

otm. i am going to use his 25 point win as an excuse to hold him to a standard consistent with his overwhelming mandate and stop worring about what people in beverly hills and eureka think.

Newsom's ever cared about what people in Eu-tweaka think?

there are rich people there, I'm sure some of them own wineries!

my only Eureka memory was having to go to the Eureka Kaiser ER when I was 7 and had a severe asthma attack ... it was quite nice! Much nicer than the Kaiser ER in San Jose.

I'm pretty sure most of the money in Eureka is coming from marijuana, tbh

I guess that it's just that in comparison to Arcata, Eureka is a total dump.

Parts of Arcata are a total dump, to be fair.

One thing about driving through Eureka on the 101.. normally when you pass through a town, you might see rough characters on the outskirts, but in Eureka it's all the way through town: befuddled trimmigrants with pitbulls on a rope, sad drug refugees pushing shopping carts right through traffic, drunks snoozing on the sidewalk.. it's pretty sad from one end to the other.
It wasn't always like that, but it sure is now.

Yeah, it's been like that since I first went there, often went through a few times per year for the decade or so I lived in California. Only stopped for any amount of time in Eureka twice— once to go to a surprisingly decent Vietnamese restaurant, and the other to go to Lost Coast Brewery to drink Fog Cutter from the tap.

I guess parts of the outskirts of Arcata are kind of dumpy, but compared to Eureka, it's a quaint Victorian village lol.

Eureka as seen from the road is rough, but they have a nice downtown.

my Eureka experience was in like 1981

it's probably like when I moved to Oakland in the late 90s, and my parents were ... concerned about safety, because their perception of Oakland was based on the news in the 1970s/80s of white flight, poverty, the crack epidemic, and there were regular driveby shootings even in the "nice parts" ... but my grandmother remembered Oakland as a very very nice place that she went shopping sometimes in the 1940s/50s back when those beautiful old department store buildings downtown were actually department stores where ladies bought gloves and hats.

Another feel good read https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-18/rural-red-california-recall-election

Ok

“I went to bed really wanting to put a For Sale sign in front of my house,” said Pickens, 50, as she sipped a chai tea latte outside Artisan Coffee in Janesville, population 1,400.

Here's a response to the la times lassen county trump diner article:

1/ I’m normally a big fan of the LA Times rural CA dispatches but no one really paints an accurate picture of how rural California votes. “overwhelmingly” misses a lot, without even counting the also rural North Coast the whole region…https://t.co/xQmJm3BSaI

— Travis Legault (@travisl_97) September 18, 2021

hehe

Orange County results in CA Governor elections:

2003: R+47
2006: R+44
2010: R+20
2014: R+11
2018: D+0.3
2021: D+3

— Ryan Matsumoto (@ryanmatsumoto1) September 23, 2021

lovely stuff

GOP in CA hurting from party’s own conspiracy theories. Voters have bought into “my vote doesn’t count in California, so therefore I’m not going to vote,” said Fred Whitaker, chairman of the Orange County GOP.
Via ⁦@LATSeema⁩ https://t.co/oMbOeSXrOZ

— Stuart Leavenworth (@sleavenworth) September 26, 2021

Typically a boisterous gathering, the three-day meeting in San Diego was among the grimmest in recent memory.