Michael Jackson: Classic or Dud?

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Kind of amazing hair-on-fire footage

Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Friday, 17 July 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

rage, the national broadcaster's late-night clips show over here, are playing pretty much everything tonight in order.

"woah man, flügelhorn" (haitch), Saturday, 1 August 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

That's a shame.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 1 August 2009 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

haha, oh alex.

COUNTDOWN - 2nd September 1984 Thriller Dance Competition

^^ have big hopes that this will bring the lols.

"woah man, flügelhorn" (haitch), Saturday, 1 August 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i want to find my disc 2 of HIStory. it ain't bad like everybody says.

Elvin Wayburn Phillips, Sunday, 2 August 2009 05:19 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsEQU_237cM

Michael Jackson's previously unreleased anti-abortion song, "Song Groove (Abortion Papers)". On the 25th anniversary edition of Bad.

Sister don't read, she'll never know
What about love?
Living a Christian soul
What do we get, she runs away
What about love?
What about all I pray

Don't know the worst, she knows a atheist
What about God?
Living is all I see
What do you get, things she would say
What about love?
That's all I pray

Those abortion papers
Signed in your name against the words of God
Those abortion papers
Think about life, I'd like to have my child

Sister confused, she went alone
What about love?
What about all I saw?
Biding a life, reading the words
Singing a song, citing a Bible verse

Father's confused, mother despair
Brother's in curse
What about all I've seen?
You know the lie, you keep it low
What about heart?
That's all I've known

Those abortion papers
(Hee-Hee Hee Hee-Hee)
(Hee Hee-Hee Hee Hee-Hee)
Those abortion papers (Hee-Hee Hee Hee-Hee)
I'd like to have my child (Hee-Hee Hee Hee-Hee)
Those abortion papers (Hee-Hee Hee Hee-Hee)
(Hee-Hee Hee-Hee).

DavidM, Friday, 21 September 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

Those abortion papers
(Hee-Hee Hee Hee-Hee)

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 September 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

lol that atheist line cannot be right but still, what

teledyldonix, Saturday, 22 September 2012 03:58 (eleven years ago) link

I can't make out what the word is there but it's definitely not "atheist"

frogbs, Saturday, 22 September 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

One of the best pop voices ever. 9 or 10 excellent songs. No masterpiece albums. Incredible stage presence...perhaps best ever. Career went to shit after 1982 in terms of song quality. I'd still undoubtedly say classic.

Tyler Burns (burns46824@yahoo.com), Sunday, 23 September 2012 06:14 (eleven years ago) link

hi

buzza, Sunday, 23 September 2012 06:23 (eleven years ago) link

four years pass...

Nice list!!

Mine would include Remember the Time in the top 10 i think -- one of my faves to dance to

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 02:51 (seven years ago) link

and I have a terrible soft spot for Man in the Mirror - i think it's just how high he goes in the chorus, it gets me

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 02:52 (seven years ago) link

I like it better as I age. I need to make a....CHANGE.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 03:30 (seven years ago) link

Before I click on this, I hope to see 'Stranger In Moscow' on there...

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link

...and it is! :D

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link

"who is it" too low

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link

what number is higher than #1

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

I am really missing the full-on melodrama of Earth Song in this list

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 19:31 (seven years ago) link

DJP: "WHAT ABOUT 'EARTH SONG'!?"
Backing singers: "WHAAAAT ABOOUT IT!?!"

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 20:35 (seven years ago) link

loooool

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 20:36 (seven years ago) link

#1 and #2 really the truly acceptable choices for those slots.

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

nice choices from Off the Wall, and Leave Me Alone is a sentimental fav cos the tune goes through my head whenever I'm aggravated.

sad at the lack of "Another Part of Me" tho. but maybe we didn't all love CAptain EO

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 23:45 (seven years ago) link

I will argue until the day that I die that "The Way You Make Me Feel" is his most underrated single (followed very closely by "Who Is It")

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link

I remember me and my brother making one of those silly joke recordings where you record interviews and use fragments of song recordings to answer questions, and using "Who Is It?" as one of the samples for someone answering the door.

it's also a killer song.

Dangerous as a whole I always remembered as this forgettable album and it's true it doesn't quite have the hooks of previous Jackson, but it's a serious classic. "Why You Wanna Trip On Me" goes hard. some of the hip-hoppy shit around the nu-jack swing makes it sound dated (well, as does the new-jack swing itself), but idk, New Jack Swing is always welcome nostalgia for me.

"Heal the World" can get fucked tho.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link

I blame "Heal the World" for making ppl's eyes roll so hard that they couldn't really get on board with Earth Song (which I almost typoed as "Earth Dong")

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link

Dangerous >>> Bad

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link

xxposts
ah, when "Bad" was released, as a fanboy of MJ since "Thriller", I was kinda disappointed.
the only song I found good enough was "TWYMMF".
It's definitely one of the best songs post "Thriller".

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:03 (seven years ago) link

"Earth Song" is sooooooooooooooooooooo much better than Heal the World.

his ballads were often hit and miss - "She's Out of My Life" is classic, as is "You Are Not Alone", "Human Nature", "Man in the Mirror" (does that count?), but the stuff like "Heal the World" or "Lady in My Life", "The Girl is Mine" is so *screeching halt*

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link

"Lady in My Life " is great !!

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link

I miss Alex in NYC.

MJ has always been a talented dud—no more, no less. The fact that critical institutions have canonized him in the wake of poptimism's Orwellian victory is a blight upon the musical landscape.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link

Hi

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:48 (seven years ago) link

Oh hey.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

pomenitul otm

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link

wait Neanderthal is Alex in NYC?!? how was I unaware of this

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link

Lol i am not

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:53 (seven years ago) link

I couldnt fill those shoes if i wanted to

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:53 (seven years ago) link

haha ok nm

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link

gr8 b8 m8, as they say.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link

I miss Alex in NYC.

MJ has always been a talented dud—no more, no less. The fact that critical institutions have canonized him in the wake of poptimism's Orwellian victory is a blight upon the musical landscape.

usually professionals will notify your relativs after you've been Baker Acted.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

Omg

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:02 (seven years ago) link

Seriously, though, I never got into the Killing Joke but I always enjoyed Alex in NYC's curmudgeonly contributions. At least he tried to uphold some basic standards, which is an infinitely more interesting approach than the "it's all subjective anyway except when it gets political in which case Anglo-American pop music rulez all lol" circlejerk that so much of musical discourse has devolved into in the past, say, 15 years.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:03 (seven years ago) link

From 2001:

For the music: Dud of course. Sorry gotta go with Alex here. Never liked him, but thanks to the zillion times you still hear the music everywhere it all becomes utterly meaningless.

For the social, aesthetic, philosophical, satirical implications of the Man, the Myth: classic.

― Omar, Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:00 PM (fifteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Now here's a position I can actually respect, because it does what so few are still capable of nowadays: it dissociates the celebrity from his music.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link

The impression you are currently giving off is that you only respect opinions you agree with.

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:08 (seven years ago) link

Now here's a position I can actually respect, because it does what so few are still capable of nowadays: it dissociates the celebrity from his music.

― pomenitul,

You are talking an awful lot of shit for someone who hasn't read what people have written about his music.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link

Liking MJ, much like liking Beyoncé, is no longer an 'opinion' in 2017. It's a requirement.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link

show us your draft card

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link

You are talking an awful lot of shit for someone who hasn't read what people have written about his music.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:09 PM (forty seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There are better ways to waste one's time.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link

show us your draft card

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:10 PM (twelve seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

First off, I'm not American. Second off, assuming you're at all serious, thank you for exemplifying the attitude I'm denouncing here.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link


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