Eden Ahbez, Jack Parsons, and other LA kooks...

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good to know, thx Elvis

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 September 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

One a somewhat related note... twilight for the back-to-the-land movement:

https://www.gq.com/story/californias-vanishing-hippie-utopias?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 13 September 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link

parsons and l. ron are fuckin dorks its all about marjorie cameron

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 13 September 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link

marjorie cameron: also fuckin dorks iirc

mark s, Monday, 13 September 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link

https://arcana-media.s3.amazonaws.com/thumbcache/5e/6f/5e6f87d242071503607bc932fb5f47f6.jpg

Found a used copy of this recently... really cool little book (the font is quite large), very well put together with tons of interesting illustrations. Gordon Kennedy's Children of the Sun already covered a lot of the fruit & nut germanic proto-hippies, but I found the stuff about California TB sanitoriums to be especially interesting - and how this architecture had a profound influence on the modernist look (Neutra to Eames, etc.).
I knew TB was a scourge but I don't think I was aware of just how bad it was... and SO many people came to California & the Southwest to heal themselves of it.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 13 September 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link

I went to a closing sale at a sanatorium in Altadena, not much left when I was there. It's now a bunch of expensive single family houses (called La Vina, as was the sanatorium).

Zorthian Ranch in Altadena has a commune vibe (and is still around), though it really isn't one.

nickn, Monday, 13 September 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

The Wormwood Star is leaving Criterion at the end of this month - of course you can catch it on YouTube, but the Criterion's copy is far better looking. (check out Curtis Harrington's other stuff while you're there)

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 19 November 2021 00:19 (two years ago) link

Can't believe I literally learnt about eden ahbez last night and this is the second time today I come across him mentioned in my daily trawl through the internet

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 19 November 2021 00:58 (two years ago) link

Almost wanted to revive this thread recently to mention that cult leader Mel something who had something to do with Zabriskie Point but I think he was more East Coast, Boston-based.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 November 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link

Mel Lyman.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 November 2021 02:41 (two years ago) link

Ryan Walsh's book Astral Weeks talks about Lyman and the entire Fort Hill community in Boston. Worth checking out

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 19 November 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link

Yeah. Love the quote here from Jonathan Richman and then the rest is something I only just recently heard about:

If the Velvets were busy, Richman would wander through Cambridge and sometimes pick up an issue of Avatar. (“I wasn’t sure I understood all of it but could seethey admired this Mel fellow,” he says.) Meanwhile, another young Velvet Underground fanatic was also reading Avatar, and he felt he understood everything it published, especially the Mel-centric pages. Wayne McGuire had been arrested and convicted for selling the paper in November 1967. For his loyalty, Lyman invited him and other salesmen to Fort Hill for a celebratory dinner, and McGuire dedicated himself to turning the population of Boston on to his guru’s brilliance. Once the Velvets started frequenting the Tea Party, the band got rolled onto McGuire’s hero roster, leading to his Crawdaddy essay “The Boston Sound,” easily the most intense endorsement of the Velvets to be published during their career. “NOW IS THE TIME FOR DISTORTIONS TO BURN,” McGuire screams via typewriter, “with flaming sword in hand I will clear away those ugly growths which parade as insightful musical criticism. . . . This is a review of the Velvet Underground, this is a review of the end of the world.”

Walsh, Ryan H.. Astral Weeks (pp. 120-121). Penguin Publishing Group.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 November 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link

Mel Lyman seems like a real prick

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 19 November 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link

Yeah, Rolling Stone did an expose of him pretty early on: among many other things, he saw Jim Kweskin coming, got into the Kweskin Band as harmonica player (in the witty, lively, multiple POV music doc Festival, he condescends to drop us some pearls ov wisdomb), may have had something to do with Kweskin disbanding them at peak, then moving into Lyman Family house, butt of jokes, called "Jimmy the Jew" by Mel, back on stage later ranting about end of the world, did at least one album about that, some better stuff later, at least he's outlived Mel, I think.
probably in the Rolling Stone anthology Mindfuckers, published by their Straight Arrow Press, long OOP< but some other stuff in there I wish I could forget. (Nah if I could find an affordable copy, would prob re-read)

dow, Saturday, 20 November 2021 02:18 (two years ago) link

There’s an old clip from The Dick Cavett Show online where he’s interviewing those two kids from Zabriskie Point and they’re talking about that whole Mel Lyman business and it’s just really creepy to watch.

Josefa, Saturday, 20 November 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link

Yeah, read about that but didn’t watch.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 November 2021 02:38 (two years ago) link

I did watch John Simon vs. Mort Sahl though, which was also kind of unpleasant.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 November 2021 02:45 (two years ago) link

Seem to recall Antonioni visiting Sammy Davis, Jr.’s poolhouse to talk to The Band while they were recording the s/t about possibly doing the soundtrack for Zabriskie Point but can’t find a reference right now.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 November 2021 02:52 (two years ago) link

Some discussion here: The Band.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 November 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link

There’s an old clip from The Dick Cavett Show online where he’s interviewing those two kids from Zabriskie Point and they’re talking about that whole Mel Lyman business and it’s just really creepy to watch.

Kliph Nesteroff wrote a great article about Lyman for the WFMU blog - it leads with this messed up Cavett interview.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 20 November 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link

Yeah, keep coming back to that article, but it’s so dense I haven’t gotten all the way through it.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 November 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link

Every time I see the name Geoff Muldaur I think of his ex-wife Maria and her song “Midnight at the Oasis,” written by big time soap opera composer and meditation maven David Nichtern.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 November 2021 22:42 (two years ago) link

To further detail, here is an article by Nichtern’s son: https://lithub.com/how-loving-the-princess-bride-led-me-to-buddhism/

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 November 2021 22:47 (two years ago) link

To further derail

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 November 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

(inevitable)

The surprising afterlife of a ’70s L.A. cult - How the Source Family became hot IP in 2023

Though the Source Family disbanded in 1978, fascination with the group and its practices has surged in the new millennium. Since the mid-aughts, there have been documentary films, books and multiple CD and vinyl record reissues of the group’s music. Bootleg T-shirts, hoodies, mugs and stickers appear in Google search results. All of these may be traced to a vast collection of images, video and audio recordings, recipes and manifestos that has survived the march of time.

After joining the Family in 1972, Isis Aquarian, who was born Charlene Peters, the daughter of an archivist for the Air Force and NASA, served as the group’s documentarian, creating the artful material that has been drawn from for various archival projects over the last 15 or so years. After the group fell apart, she made it her mission to preserve the Family’s legacy.

Most recently, in November, Isis, curator Charlie Kitchings and filmmaker and publisher Jodi Wille, who has previously worked with Isis on a book and a feature documentary, released “Family: The Source Family Scrapbook” in conjunction with the independent record label Sacred Bones. The book includes previously unpublished photographs and ephemera from Isis’ archive and detailed captions that contextualize the images. Isis also moved her archive, around 50 boxes of materials, to the American Religions Collection at the UC Santa Barbara library. In conjunction with the book’s release, a series of Source Family events took place in Santa Barbara, Los Feliz, Malibu and Culver City in late March.

And now, Hollywood is getting involved.

At a private dinner in Malibu on March 25 sponsored by the media company Atlas Obscura, guests including actors Patricia Arquette and Mark Ruffalo, music producer Rick Rubin, actor and producer Ben Sinclair, original Source Family members and other curious parties were invited on “a journey into the cult roots of health food.” The menu, inspired by dishes at the original Source restaurant, featured seven courses including “psychedelic toast,” “multidimensional soup” and a re-creation of the restaurant’s “aware salad,” served by staff engaged in Source Family cosplay, dressed in flowing white frocks and wigs. Isis and fellow Source Family members Venus, Zerathustra and Galaxy Aquarian blessed the meal with a ritual they performed in the Family. “As above, so below, and around, we go, YaHoWah,” they chanted with corresponding hand gestures, as if guiding energy around the 40-person table decorated with poppies, dill flowers, wheat and cut papaya, a flower child’s rendering of a medieval banquet.

Arquette, who spent her childhood in a Subud commune in Virginia, said she’s always been fascinated by various religious philosophies and spiritual seekers. “It’s been nice to talk to these elders who are here, about their radical experiences as young people,” she said. “Especially when they talked about how Father Yod went down his own ego path. That they acknowledged it made me feel like there’s not an absolute revisionist history.”

The Malibu event doubled as a hub of in-progress Hollywood spiritual ventures. According to Wille, Ruffalo, his manager Margaret Riley and the producer Stacey Sher are working on a Source Family limited series in which Ruffalo will play Father Yod. Sinclair is developing a series about the spiritual leader Ram Dass while Rubin is producing a docuseries about Yogi Bhajan. Two days after the event in Malibu, Rubin sent a limo for Isis and interviewed her for three hours with a full camera crew because, he said by email, that he’s “excited by … Isis Aquarian’s bird’s-eye view of Jim Baker’s evolution from successful man of the world to spiritual leader, whose ever-curious hunger for deeper spiritual connection was shared by 150 like-minded souls.”

Rubin said he learned about the Family after he moved to California in the late ’80s and began dining at the Source Restaurant. “Something about the space held an energy even though the Source Family had already moved on.” During Father Yod’s lifetime, wrote Rubin, “The Source story was a local story. Now it’s global.”

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A Q&A at the Philosophical Research Society on March 23, which followed a screening of Wille’s 2013 documentary “The Source Family,” made with Maria Demopoulos, turned into one of the more heated discussions that Wille and the Family have participated in since they began working together. Some audience members implied that the film’s narrative arc, and the family member’s answers that night, were selective, omitting Father Yod’s use of alcohol and cocaine. One questioner politely asked if the three female Family members on stage — Isis, Galaxy and Venus — if they were aware, at the time, of the negative perspectives presented in the film, or if they feel negatively about the Family today. Another asked about patriarchy and power structures.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 13 April 2023 00:54 (one year ago) link

About right.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 April 2023 03:14 (one year ago) link

feel like this ties in to the May Pang interview that Ned also linked to, in that the eventual answer/explanation/context is "it was the 70s, man"

it's unclear how that Q&A resolved? would love to hear more context.

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Thursday, 13 April 2023 03:29 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

Great LAT article on the current state of the Philosophical Research Society (live in LA? check it out!)
https://www.latimes.com/lifestyle/story/2023-09-11/philosophical-research-society-los-angeles-arts-culture-events-for-mystics-esoterica

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 08:07 (seven months ago) link

Thanks for that, cool article... this detail stood out: The organization purchased the Los Feliz property in 1935 for just $10 and soon began construction on the arched Mayan-inspired building in what was then a wild mustard field.

at the intersection of Los Feliz and Griffith Park boulevards, that's crazy

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:14 (seven months ago) link


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