A Thread For Starting Pitchers That Are Doing Really Well

gabe kapler would've left him in if he'd already allowed 5 runs

From the sublime to the ridiculous, Keegan Akin is 4 hours away from a 7-inning no-no

4 outs

now 3 outs

if he does it he will officially be a better pitcher than corbin burnes, who did not do it

nope, 7-inning no-hitters officially do not count, except in our hearts

**Cy Young is awarded to Burnes**

Burnes: Counsell, are they booing me?
Counsell: no, they were saying Boo-urns
Andrew Wagner: I was saying Boo-urns

i thought the combined no-hitter was the least respected form of no-hitter, but the 7 inning version is lower

fuck off vlad jr

I feel it to be essentially certain the Orioles blow the lead now

LOL

still a better pitcher than corbin burnes imo

Esoteric record...Most runs in an inning that breaks up a no-hitter in the 7th inning or later?

11 runs!

11 hits in the inning alone

I thought the Orioles had used up their capacity to surprise me but they just don't know the word quit

Houck perfect through 5 - and then pulled.

kershaw perfect through 6 innings, with 12 Ks, 69 pitches

7!

Shoot, guess he’s coming out.

i kinda assumed they'd pull him anyway, between it's dave roberts and it's 2022 clayton kershaw

no pressure, blake treinen, but...YOU MUST BE PERFECT or you're gonna let down dodger nation

Just finding out about this...6-0 lead, 80 pitches? Well, I'm sure you know what I think.

oh sorry, i guess ales vesia instead

i'd guess a lot of it has to do with short spring training, too, pitchers not being worked up to 100% yet

It’s a shame, but very understandable.

welp. sorry kid

that was in response to the hit just now. poor vesia

Hope the Dodgers lose, or hope they have to burn through four or five pitchers saving the win.

7 IP, 80 pitches, 13 Ks, 0 BBs

20 swinging strikes (!)

Well, what can you do against an elite hitter like, *checks notes*, Gary Sanchez

I’m seeing on Twitter that Clayton Kershaw was perfect through 7 and got yanked? Did that really happen?

#Dodgers C Austin Barnes on Clayton Kershaw being pulled from PG: "Later in the season, when he's a little more built up, I think he goes out there, but I think that's the right call, taking him out there. It was the right move, for sure. I think he was getting a little tired."

— Mike DiGiovanna (@MikeDiGiovanna) April 13, 2022

Honestly, I doubt they'd leave him in then, either. It'd be "He's pitched a lot of innings for us this year, no point in pushing him."

I know I'm howling into the wind here, but...James used to say that pitch count was less important than how many pitches were thrown after the pitcher was tired--that that's when injuries happen. If you concede that there's some truth there--and maybe you don't--I question how tired Kershaw would be when he so clearly dominated the first seven innings.

I would have said "You get one baserunner or 90 pitches--either one happens, you're out."

And what if he's at 90 pitches and one batter away? I don't know.

he seemed pretty ok with it. i think he also just had another kid or something. dude is on a roll

bill james is the dennis perrin of clemenza

He was definitely okay with it:

Kershaw had no issue with Roberts' thought process, telling reporters after the game his manager made "the right decision."

If he wasn't, though, I'm not sure we'd ever know.

Roberts' decision to pull Kershaw drew comparisons to another call he made in 2016, his first year managing L.A. On Sept. 10, 2016, Roberts removed Rich Hill after seven perfect innings due to injury concerns, becoming the first manager in AL/NL history to remove a pitcher from a perfect game after seven innings, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

Can't say as I remember that, but I was probably on here whining about it.

(xpost) Well, I criticize him lots on here (check the James thread). But, unlike many, I haven't decided he's this doddering old guy who never wrote anything worth remembering.

hehe perrin ain't bad either, just joshin'

I might send in an "Ask Bill" about this, but I suspect he'll either beg off (because of his time with the Red Sox, I find he's more reluctant to criticize guys like Roberts who've been around the game for a long time--one of the things I like less about him now) or even agree with the decision.

I'm in this FB group, "Third Base Saloon," where there's a poll up on taking out Kershaw...13-1 against right now! We're all going to get together later and find some clouds to yell at.

you're pretty passionate about this clemenza! haha

honest q: what's the most pitches a starting pitcher has thrown so far in a game this year?

just wondering if starting pitchers are going 100+ already.

looks like scherzer threw 96 yesterday

My guess is Kershaw today, almost certainly.

I totally understand all the arguments against. It's just...I see baseball becoming less and less popular all the time, and I do wonder if there's connection between the two. I became a fan in the '70s primarily because of the players and all the wondrous things they did. Willie Stargell hit 40 HR and 40 doubles? Is that even possible? Etc., etc.

If you feel strongly that 20 more pitches would have potentially done long-term damage to Kershaw, then of course it's an easy decision. I just personally don't believe that.

It was actually today Scherzer threw 96.

Here's where I'd differentiate...He only gave up one run, but 96 pitches over 5 innings is a lot; he had eight baserunners (5 hits/3 BB), so he wasn't exactly sailing. In that case--and just based on the boxscore--I'd say they left him out there too long, pushing him to 5.0 IP so he could get the win.

Any time something bad happens to the Dodgers we should cherish it

Don't know a thing about this publication, but worth it for the headline:

https://defector.com/kershaw-perfect-game-prison/

Maybe someone with Play Index can verify this, but Kershaw's Game Score of 90 today has the be the highest ever for 7 innings.

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