S/D Peter Brotzmann

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if this same thing had happened when I was in high school and Jay Leno played a bit of "Nipples" and said it was awful, I would have hit the ground running the next morning trying to find a copy and I'm sure kids are doing the same thing today.

I doubt very much that they are

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 9 September 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

You don't think there are weird kids these days who like dissonant music? There might not be a lot of them but I'm positive they exist.

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 9 September 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

I'm just going to guess that weird kids who like dissonant music aren't watching Fallon at all now that shit like that is easily avoided (until something like goes viral, that is).

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 September 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link

The problem is that now social media is full of cranky middle-aged fuckers typing in all caps about HOW DARE JIMMY FALLON MAKE FUN OF THE GREAT PETER BRÖTZMANN and nothing makes a teenager/young person LESS likely to investigate something than seeing an old person rave about it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 September 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link

The funny thing to me is I literally played Machine Gun for my older kid just last week. He dug it.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 9 September 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link

The problem is that now social media is full of cranky middle-aged fuckers typing in all caps about HOW DARE JIMMY FALLON MAKE FUN OF THE GREAT PETER BRÖTZMANN and nothing makes a teenager/young person LESS likely to investigate something than seeing an old person rave about it.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, September 9, 2021 3:35 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes clearly it is the jazz police who are the problem

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 9 September 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen and I'm placing you all under arrest

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 September 2021 20:24 (two years ago) link

Brotzmann feels like a serious outlier among those 4. I suspect Questlove and Dumbass Fallon are probably both fans, testing the waters to see if they could get away with playing difficult free jazz on NBC in 2021. They've become jaded with the monotony of their depressingly bleak programming.

billstevejim, Thursday, 9 September 2021 21:14 (two years ago) link

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https://www.stereogum.com/2119421/jimmy-fallon-did-a-bit-about-a-song-by-obscure-slint-offshoot-king-kong/news/

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the 45-year-old gaz coomber (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 September 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link

Schwarzwaldfahrt inspired my neighbors to call the jazz police on one occasion.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 9 September 2021 21:31 (two years ago) link

Fallon was so mean about like, literal children. What a prick. Why would you do that? The whole bit is mean-spirited and shitty.

ian, Thursday, 9 September 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link

Schwarzwaldfahrt inspired my neighbors to call the jazz police on one occasion.

was wondering when this fab record was gonna get a mention

sleeve, Thursday, 9 September 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link

^^^ sickest jams

ian, Thursday, 9 September 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link

The whole bit is mean-spirited and shitty.

otm, I've never watched the show beyond the occasional viral musical clip, but that is a seriously low-rent segment, just dunking on musicians. wtf. I thought his whole shtick was that he was like an inoffensive nice guy

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 10 September 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link

idk, man, it's a cheap bit but then again most Fallon things kind of revel in cheap emotions (nostalgic recognition, juxtaposition, epic baconness, applause) that aren't exactly "jokes" per se.

the 45-year-old gaz coomber (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 September 2021 00:40 (two years ago) link

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the 45-year-old gaz coomber (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 September 2021 00:40 (two years ago) link

whichever boomer hipster on Fallon's staff that got King Kong and Brotzmann played is definitely responsible for getting a Mark Prindle CDR on the segment a few months back

I Occasionally Post on ILX (2x5), Friday, 10 September 2021 13:52 (two years ago) link

Are boomers aware of Mark Prindle? He's in his 40s.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 10 September 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link

'The Jazz Police' was the original title for 'The Dream of the Blue Turtles' iirc

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 September 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

Thanks ums

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 10 September 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

hooba

the 45-year-old gaz coomber (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 September 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link

'The Jazz Police' was the original title for 'The Dream of the Blue Turtles' iirc

Wasn't that a Cheap Trick song?

birdistheword, Friday, 10 September 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link

Colbert really put a lot more effort into the same kind of bit: https://www.cc.com/video/o1qorx/the-colbert-report-who-s-not-honoring-me-now-the-macarthur-foundation

JoeStork, Friday, 10 September 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link

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I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 10 September 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link

'The Jazz Police' was the original title for 'The Dream of the Blue Turtles' iirc

Wasn't that a Cheap Trick song?

― birdistheword, Friday, September 10, 2021 7:31 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

It was a jazzy album Sting made after he left The Police, I was making a crap joke, sorry.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 September 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link

that is the one weak track on Leonard Cohen's "I'm Your Man" --

sarahell, Friday, 10 September 2021 19:57 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

:-(

Facts: a statement from Peter Brötzmann about his health situation pic.twitter.com/dXYyYm7DE9

— Heather Leigh (@wishimage) March 23, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link

man, I hope he is on the mend, this is a major dude.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 23 March 2023 21:03 (one year ago) link

Truly sucks to hear this, and hoping for the best. That one time I caught him with Keiji Haino was a hell of a night.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2023 15:05 (one year ago) link

He played in London last month - sold out in seconds flat so I couldn't go. Hoping he recovers.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 24 March 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link

The only jazz gig I've ever been to where they were handing out ear plugs before the concert was by Herr Brötzmann (of course)!

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 24 March 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

RIP to the good man.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 June 2023 02:56 (nine months ago) link

:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbVpx5-XYng

Great, great artist. RIP

birdistheword, Friday, 23 June 2023 04:15 (nine months ago) link

RIP, peter

budo jeru, Friday, 23 June 2023 05:34 (nine months ago) link

rip. somehow missed the brotzmann/leigh duo when they played here, but have an enduring memory of the one time i did see him: a hulking form in a long coat wandering around port chalmers puffing away on a cigar before filling an ex-masonic hall with the most glorious sounds.

no lime tangier, Friday, 23 June 2023 07:48 (nine months ago) link

:-(

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 June 2023 08:10 (nine months ago) link

Farewell to the legendary free-jazz saxophonist Peter Brötzmann (1941-2023). Though he's known for his fearsomely fierce improvisations, he was also a great visual artist. This publication is just amazing. pic.twitter.com/X67z0WZ04v

— Robin Rimbaud - Scanner (@robinrimbaud) June 23, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 June 2023 09:54 (nine months ago) link

truly saddened by this news, just a total GOAT.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 23 June 2023 11:51 (nine months ago) link

Are there any other of his recordings more in the vein of Last Exit's Iron Path?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 23 June 2023 18:17 (nine months ago) link

I would say, the other Last Exit albums?

RIP, this dude was awesome.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 23 June 2023 18:53 (nine months ago) link

Are there any other of his recordings more in the vein of Last Exit's Iron Path?

Anything by the group Full Blast. I interviewed the other two guys in the band a few years ago.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 23 June 2023 19:02 (nine months ago) link

I really like the album he did with Black Bombaim.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 June 2023 19:06 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, that's a great one, too. It's on Bandcamp.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 23 June 2023 19:20 (nine months ago) link

I read an interview with him once, probably in The Wire, where he was castigating Laswell and the whole Last Exit project as being completely against the spirit of improvisation, by the time they got to Iron Path anyway. I think Laswell took it over and started trying to move them towards the sound of his over-produced digi-dub projects, which figures.

darts macabre (Matt #2), Friday, 23 June 2023 19:26 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, Iron Path is a Laswell album featuring the members of Last Exit. It's really good, but to get the real flavor of their stuff you've gotta listen to the live records. If you can find the one from the 1986 Moers Festival, with Billy Bang and Diamanda Galás guesting, it's well worth your time.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 23 June 2023 19:39 (nine months ago) link

He was still touring this year, as a solo act and with a band. (see YouTube) Amazing to the very end.

birdistheword, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:03 (nine months ago) link

I'd also recommend the Hairy Bones album he did with Pupillo, Kondo and Nilssen-Love as being particularly wild. Plus the Die Like A Dog stuff, of course.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Friday, 23 June 2023 20:10 (nine months ago) link

Iron Path is a Laswell album featuring the members of Last Exit.

What do you think of his production on the later Pharoah Sanders records?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:11 (nine months ago) link


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