play in the nba offseason itd do numbers
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 September 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link
allow each team a couple non alumni players, itd be cool
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 September 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link
get em
NBA lays out new focus on stopping “manipulated,” non-basketball play fouls https://t.co/Mn8O8Ov877— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) September 24, 2021
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 September 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link
Love it
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 24 September 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link
excellent. interested to see how its called/enforced. kinda hoping they are all just no calls
― a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Friday, 24 September 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link
i mean the stuff is freaking legal and so forth
Players won’t be subject to random tests for marijuana this season, according to @NBPA memo shared w/ players and obtained by ESPN. That’s been adjusted policy thru Orlando restart and 2020-‘21 season. Testing continues for “drugs of abuse and performance enhancing substances.”— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 6, 2021
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link
i think the next frontier in nba strategy will be finding mtiple players who can shoot well from 8+ feet behind the 3pt line.
― micah, Thursday, 7 October 2021 09:34 (two years ago) link
Create a 4 pt line and they will come.
― Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Thursday, 7 October 2021 12:00 (two years ago) link
yes hahaha yes
Harden not getting this call this year. 👀 pic.twitter.com/V9M5q3Tvsb— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) October 12, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link
love how hes the last one down the court in his pouting.
basically harden is gonna get called in the reg season how he gets called in the playoffs now. hes a smart and crafty player, im sure he'll adjust but his FTA per game should take a hit
― um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 22:38 (two years ago) link
Sources: The NBA Competition Committee today discussed the uptick in transition “take” fouls this season and encouraged the league office to develop a rule change that would eliminate incentive to utilize the tactic in future.— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 2, 2021
― It's the Final Cluntdiwn (Spottie), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 22:37 (two years ago) link
NBA informed teams today that the Competition Committee is unanimously supportive of the league’s new rules officiating non-basketball moves. The new Wilson game ball was also discussed, with the league and players working directly with Wilson to adjust as appropriate. https://t.co/ftgu8fbrbr— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 2, 2021
might be pretty cool with the prize money
ESPN Sources: There’s renewed traction on a future In-Season Tournament in the NBA. The league and union are discussing a structure that includes December pool play, pre-Christmas quarters/semis/finals and $1M per player payout on winning team. More next on ESPN’s NBA Countdown.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) December 25, 2021
― lag∞n, Saturday, 25 December 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link
no I don’t like it
― k3vin k., Sunday, 26 December 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link
The NBA brass are prob thinking the long regular season is just too boring and they need more games that "count", but that shows a huge lack of faith in the game of hoops and the skill and competitiveness of their players. Regular season games are often exciting as hell, just because NBA players are often exciting as hell. Fuck this nonsense. Just keep working on promoting rules that punish the teams that deliberately tank.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 26 December 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link
StilL some stuff to fix obv
I don't normally do requests. pic.twitter.com/H0XIIxm7OE— Mo Dakhil (@MoDakhil_NBA) December 25, 2021
― Spottie, Sunday, 26 December 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link
I think that was just reflexive habit on the ref's part, left over from years of calling fouls on that crap. Once the whistle was blown, he couldn't un-blow it without looking even more like an idiot.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 26 December 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link
my solution of a postseason single elimination tourney to decide draft order among non-playoff teams would categorically solve tanking forever and be dope afxps
― class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 26 December 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link
well well well
Report: With play-in tournament, NBA would shorten regular season to 78 games https://t.co/Xg4difx4YB— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) December 28, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
pretty cool
Sources: The NBA has a new format for Rising Stars at All-Star Weekend, featuring four seven-player teams competing in a three-game tournament and each game having final target score. 28 players: 12 rookies, 12 sophomores – and for the first time, four G League Ignite players.— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) January 25, 2022
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 20:08 (two years ago) link
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/33303891/reinventing-basketball-nba-look-75-years-baggage
― symsymsym, Thursday, 24 February 2022 06:08 (two years ago) link
its crazy they havent already done this
FIBA has found solutions to this problem + the take foul by allowing advantage situations if the defense gains possession off of a 24 sec violation AND giving 2 shots + possession if a take foul is committed.Really no reason the NBA should be this slow on the uptake. https://t.co/ON7bypSq1j— Joe Viray (@JoeVirayNBA) March 11, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 11 March 2022 01:57 (two years ago) link
they should honestly do it before the playoffs
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 March 2022 01:59 (two years ago) link
there are so many dumb reasons why this has gotten done yet. it's really frustrating.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 11 March 2022 01:59 (two years ago) link
*hasn't
― call all destroyer, Friday, 11 March 2022 02:00 (two years ago) link
The NBA is getting younger and lighter.2014-15 — 26.7 yrs | 223 lbs average2015-16 — 26.7 yrs | 222 lbs2016-17 — 26.6 yrs | 221 lbs2017-18 — 26.4 yrs | 220 lbs2018-19 — 26.3 yrs | 219 lbs2019-20 — 26.1 yrs | 218 lbs2020-21 — 26.1 yrs | 217 lbs2021-22 — 26.1 yrs | 215 lbs— StatMuse (@statmuse) April 12, 2022
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 April 2022 22:59 (two years ago) link
and speedier, too
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 April 2022 23:07 (two years ago) link
NBA teams have suggested some tweaks to the Play-In Tournament, which the league will discuss with the Board of Governors and NBPA this offseason.For example, if a team has a large enough lead in the standings, should it be exempt from the Play-In? https://t.co/2drqAAY3ZY— Alex Kennedy (@AlexKennedyNBA) April 13, 2022
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 13 April 2022 22:18 (two years ago) link
"The core of what we were trying to accomplish with the Play-In was driving regular-season competition,” Wasch said. “We use the word 'tiers' a lot to describe what that means. There's now a tier of the top-four teams, each of which get home-court advantage in the first round of the playoffs. There’s a 5-6 tier, which gives teams a guaranteed playoff berth. There’s a 7-8 tier, which gives teams two opportunities to win a game in the Play-In. And, of course, there’s the 9-10 tier that gives teams a shot to win two in a row to get in the playoffs.
yeah its working as intended and if you want to avoid it just get a top 6 record
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link
no
Keep the play-in forever. Drop regular season games. Add the in-season tournament. Overhaul the NBA calendar. No reason to wait. In-season tourney incentives: cash prize, the trophy, wins count toward season standings. Single-elimination and it all matters, just like the play-in.— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) April 16, 2022
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 16 April 2022 02:30 (two years ago) link
wins count toward the regular season standings... but it's single elimination, just like the play-in. hmm
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 April 2022 02:42 (two years ago) link
following on from the recent discussion of injuries etc
the nba being a physical contest will always find a way to push the limits of what the body can do and this will result in injuries.
i don't think shortening the regular season is the answer. sure back to backs should be dropped, but apart from that there would be limited benefit to reducing games further. an nfl player might only see an hour of real action in a full season but will still get totally wrecked in that time. similarly if nba player minutes were restricted across the board you would probably see bigger athletes with more fast twitch muscle who would combust just as frequently, if not more so, and probably more violently. the long regular season as it is has an endurance aspect which might not be apparent to the casual viewer but which really adds to depth of the league.
part of the story behind stars missing games is that the top players are still undercompensated. any team would give kawhi a max even knowing for a fact that he will only play at best 50% of games, because half a kawhi is still worth it. so limiting the impact of injuries (or injury prone players) will need deeper restructing. you're looking at things like a new max contract that allows for much higher dollar amounts but can only be paid out per game played.
most coaches would be happy to run any role player into the ground if it meant a couple more wins, and the disabled player exemption is basically a licence to do just that, so the exemption should be scrapped.
some minor stuff would be allowing more perimeter contact to slow down player movement and expanding the charge circle diameter to the full width of the key.
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― micah, Sunday, 24 April 2022 11:54 (one year ago) link
the disabled player exception is hard to get and even harder to use effectively. i don't think it has much of an effect on anything.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 25 April 2022 01:40 (one year ago) link
most top players are effectively playing a short season now due to resting games and sitting out with minor injuries, which is a problem for the nba in that their big regular season matchups are almost never played with full rosters, best case scenario they figure out what the largest number games is that will inspire teams to play all their guys, i think part of that is just having a enough time between games so players are naturally rested and then the other thing is have few enough games that each game matters, that number is 58 thank you for coming to my presentation
― lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link
yup. lebron has probably put more thought and effort and $$ into this than anyone and has been consistently saying the ramp-up and recovery between games matters much more than the number of minutes he plays in a given game. the hope would be that a reduced schedule gives everyone the same opportunity to do that stuff effectively.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 25 April 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link
the problem with this line of thinking is the assumption that lebron or kawhi would play 58 games instead of 42 or whatever the prorated prescribed rest schedule was
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 April 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link
there is a number at which they will play all the games when as mentioned you meet their rest needs and the game mean enough to play, like nfl players dont take rest games for instance, obvs no one knows what that number is but its def less than now, i think also even if you never get all way the to that number you will decrease resting by playing fewer games
― lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link
also! you will decrease injuries which are a huge source of missed games
― lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link
the issue is more existential. regardless of how many games you reduced the schedule to, the most logical approach with stars would be a cautious one. i guess if you cut the schedule to like 30 games you could get everyone to play every game, but realistically speaking i don’t think you’d ever be able to reduce the schedule to a point where load management was detrimental. a better approach would prob be just to pay star players for playing in national TV games, or having some sponsor put up a $1 million bonus for best player in a TNT or ESPN game
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 April 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link
the NBA could take some of its TV money and pay out bonuses at the end of the year to every player who played 75 games, 65 games etc. but of course they’d never actually give up more money to ensure a better product
― J0rdan S., Monday, 25 April 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link
idk i think if you got to ~60 games and big stars load managed to 50 things would be fine. i'm not really sure there's a realistic financial incentive that will move the needle for anybody as we get to there era of annual salaries north of $40 million
― call all destroyer, Monday, 25 April 2022 02:12 (one year ago) link
*the era
see (jordan) you, despite BTW claiming otherwise in the directly preceding sentence, think the no resting number is 30 games but no one knows what it actually is, also as mentioned while eliminating resting totally would be best by reducing games even if you dont totally eliminate resting you will decrease its occurrence, paying players for big games could maybe work too but the thing about trying to move towards a number of games that doesnt cause fatigue induced injuries is its just generally good for the quality of the game to have healthy competitive bouncy players, its a holistic solution to a number of related problems
― lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link
you couldn't pay players for selected big games without impacting competitive balance. its just not feasible. and jordan is absolutely correct in that reducing the number of games won't reduce the % that stars rest in.
― micah, Monday, 25 April 2022 03:09 (one year ago) link
its not math, its the human body
― lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 03:12 (one year ago) link
yeah i have no idea why this is some kind of established proportion
― call all destroyer, Monday, 25 April 2022 03:14 (one year ago) link
theyre resting because theyre tired
― lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 03:14 (one year ago) link
i generally tend to err on the side of players want to play, within reason--the issue is that our current schedule has 20 superfluous games
― call all destroyer, Monday, 25 April 2022 03:16 (one year ago) link
so whats the perfect number of games in a season to guarantee peak performance? 10? 12? 3? and how will players bodies & juice regimes change to suit that number?
― micah, Monday, 25 April 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link
its 58
― lag∞n, Monday, 25 April 2022 03:20 (one year ago) link