Literary Clusterfucks 2013

We're way beyond literary clusterfucks right now, tho.

hahah it wasn't Kevin Keating!! He was my first thought though!!! Trying to recapture the glory days of 2000 when he wheatpasted posters encouraging people to torch SUVs to combat gentrification and overthrow capitalism. Keating was a 2nd rate Kevin ... this guy was 3rd rate.

Killian is obv the 1st rate Kevin ... the ur-Kevin as it were

We used to call Keating "Mr. Clean" and "cue-ball"

lol

all I know about Ashbery is that his female students report that he was often very cold toward them and their work

There's an Ashbery poem in And The Stars Were Shining that I've wanted to go back to, concluding in a line about (as I remember) keeping a doorstop in the office door so that it's open a crack. It didn't point to anything bad/scandalous, but seemed to have to do with boundaries of intimacies.

Other than that, all's I know from Edmund White's NYC memoir is that he and Ashbery hooked up.

Ashbery was hot in the '70s

Sorry for this vmic post

you need to post a jpg

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Lol u get the idea

Thought that was a picture of this guy:
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So rude

Sorry, was not intended to be.

Wondering if silby reads this thread, probably not.

https://www.americamagazine.org/sites/default/files/main_image/2505956.0.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EE2v5ieWwAAY2hK.jpg

?

^ xp plax

Ruffalo as Ashbery biopic, dir. Todd Haynes.

be still my beating heart

Ruffalo toured a friend's apartment in the Mission many years ago. Apparently he's a very nice guy.

my husband saw MR at a coffee shop in silver lake once and freaked out lol

have also def heard my husband talk about the anti-yuppie protest stuff sarahell and tabes were talking about a few days ago, he lived in the mission in the late 90s/2000s

i don’t write poetry or even read tons of it but i do like learning about poetry gossip/clusterfks. B’s not on Twitter so sometimes i find out about stuff before he does lol (eg the danielle rose thing)

I'm also not on Twitter. Better this way.

Oh, I'd come, I remembered, chiefly to see my own reflection.

— John Ashbery (@AshberyEbooks) September 15, 2021

I semi-recently watched the movie where MR plays the West Virginia lawyer (the area is near where my Dad's family was from, though they had moved prior to the plant being built). ... I am always here for MR content

how norm spent his 54th birthday... shitting on bret easton ellis pic.twitter.com/V7Ugk4qb7Z

— 🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌 (@immolations) September 14, 2021

be still my beating heart

― sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:29 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Haha yes!!!

Wondering if silby reads this thread, probably not.

― What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs)

You never know

:)

oh boy https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/magazine/dorland-v-larson.html

That was something

everybody involved in that comes off as completely insane.

otm

also is it just me or is it ~insane~ that this spun so out of control that it went to court? it feels very high school

dolman seems defensive to an unhinged degree & larson seems petty to the point where a different word might need to be invented

(but i love Robert Kolker & it’s a v good article!)

https://my-store-c0e211.creator-spring.com/listing/writers-no-care-about-my-kidne

it’s absolutely high school clique shit perpetuated by hacks who think they’re doing something important.

amazing story

When Larson discusses “The Kindest” now, the idea that it’s about a kidney donation at all seems almost irrelevant. If that hadn’t formed the story’s pretext, she believes, it would have been something else. “It’s like saying that ‘Moby Dick’ is a book about whales,” she said.

i mean i don’t know how long it’s been since she read Moby Dick but i’m finishing it right now and let me tell you that dude fucking loves whales

it's a crazy fucking story for sure

tfw you pay so much attention to the subtext you just ignore the text part completely

Iirc Moby Dick is about a white supremicist who beats his wife

I left that conference with this question: Do writers not care about my kidney donation?

I think I can answer that for you!

Everyone involved should option the story rights to whichever Coen brother is still making movies.

Dorland seems like way too earnest a person to be hanging around with fiction writers

If you directly ask someone to explain why they haven't clicked "like" on your social media post your name is going on the ostracon, sorry

I left that conference with this question: Do writers not care about my kidney donation? pic.twitter.com/eKqBcJ8RKv

— allison (@allisongeroi) October 5, 2021

lmao

he also was really into boats too, i think?

Dorland seems like a moron and Larson seems mean-spirited. Meh.

Tbh I hated Dorland more while reading the article, tho.