NBA NUMB3RS 2020-21

That Kobe lol

buddy hield kind of an insane shooter. he must be bad at everything else & unlikable

yeah i think thats pretty much it

this graph lays it out pretty well but i think in the last 2-3 seasons the tiers of NBA shooting are basically

[in his own stratosphere]

steph

...

dame
james harden

...

duncan robinson
buddy hield
joe harris

...

tim hardaway jr
devonte graham

klay would be the missing link here, we'll see how he looks. trae young was fighting to get in this group somewhere but was 32nd in 3PA this year and 45th in 3P made (behind ppl like kyle kuzma, mike conley, andrew wiggins, brandon ingram) so he's changed his game up, prob for the better ultimately. he also doesn't have the volume from three but anecdotally i'd prob throw middleton in this group, he should shoot more threes

Obviously we can only speculate on what Klay will look like but based on his track record pre-injury he's sort of in his own tier, more efficient than Dame/Harden and more volume than the Joe Harrises of the world. Maybe that would put him at #2, though I'd probably slot him in between Dame and Harden given how much he has benefited from his context playing off Steph. And yeah, Steph really is amazing. So happy we got to see him back to himself this past year.

yeah guys who create their own shots have to go ahead of spot up shooters like klay, klay is the best spot up shooter tho

harden is frustrating cause hes such a great shooter but insists on taking only the most difficult shots

Harden basically breaks the algorithm, even now with however many years to imitate his thing, no one really plays like him. I'm not complaining. Glad Trae has shifted to a different track

klay in his own tier for spot up shooter yeah

creators:

steph >>>>>>> Dame >> Harden >>> PG >> lavine > tatum >>>> fvv > trae > luka > mitchell > middleton >>> rozier > graham > beal > kemba

spot up:

klay >>> hield >> harris > d rob >> bertans > bojan

-harris kinda capped since hes on a team with 3 insane scorers, but he'd be up there otherwise.
-Ingles has been amazing but not enough shot attempts really
-JJ woulda been in that bottom list easily but finally got old and dropped off last season
-we might have to add lonzo ball to this at some point lol
-kat needs to shoot more threes?
-cj belongs on one of these lists but not sure which one, he spots up and creates?

you cannot put lavine ahead of tatum on that list sorry i simply will not allow it

yah swap those

thank you

we need to see if last year was an anomaly for lavine

its gotta be, at least somewhat

if current trends hold tatums gonna pass pg soon

tatum 38% on 7.5 attempts
lavine 42% on 8.5 attempts

its a fluke

57% overall, if he can keep this up i will have no choice but to tip my cap

interesting for their career their basically the same player in regard to shooting percentages
https://stathead.com/tiny/7oUGP

yeah uncanny, lavine is three years older tho

57% overall, if he can keep this up i will have no choice but to tip my cap

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 9, 2021 11:07 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

57% on 2s, 50.7% overall. close to a 50/40/90.. ft at 85%

oh yeah i misread that still much better than hes ever done before

wow the offensive numbers are really identical. but once you look at defense even the numbers make it clear they're not the same tier of player (not to mention "playoffs" lol)

yeah the defense makes a major difference. both need to keep improving their passing

feel like even tho their reg season numbers are the same tatums game is just so much more sound, and has more room to grow

and yeah the defense is obvs wildly different

def more room to grow, other than that step backwards in year two when he was briefly enamored with kobe hero ball, he's been on a pretty consistent upward trajectory. lavine's career looks more like a plateau with an outlier this past year. but like you said, if he can sustain what he did this year, good on him

yah tatum has the 'it' factor.

lots of talking heads were excited about lavines team usa showing thinking it might springboard him into being a sound defender. would be cool but i have doubts.

Which defenders held opponents to the lowest FG% on shots within 6 feet from the rim? Per NBA Stats (min. 200 shots faced):

1. Draymond Green 💪 (45.2%)
2. Rudy Gobert (48.0%)
3. Myles Turner (48.7%)
4. Brook Lopez (49.3%)
5. Daniel Gafford (49.6%) pic.twitter.com/84kFocY6Vz

— BasketballNews.com (@basketbllnews) September 23, 2021

Noted prototypical NBA center Draymond Green doing prototypical NBA center things.

On another note, his becoming a rim protector is old news at this point, but I can never help but notice just how bizarre a career trajectory Brook Lopez has had.

yeah he was a top ten scorer the year the league only had nine guys average 20+

yeah he was a top ten scorer the year the league only had nine guys average 20+

Hand = game

https://i.imgur.com/aHg41A5.png

seems p good

high on the y axis

damn u love to see it

he has a chance to be a really special and unique player.

hes a really good scorer elite shooter and good rebounder, whether hell ever figure out the rest of the game is a pretty big question mark imo

the athletic article i took that chart from was extremely critical of his defense and said his playmaking is basically non existent at this point

also said re his scoring that he gets a lot of his looks via off ball play which is pretty cool, im sure many teams would be fine with having a 6-10 knockdown wing who can score without dominating the ball

he's in a pretty great situation playing with a guy who is like a walking top 5 offense in the NBA. the playmaking aspect of his game may never need to be developed given his teammates, the defense is a different story tho

being tall helps a lot like even duncan robinson is somewhat passable on defense just bcuz of his height, and he's shorter than NPJ and a worse athlete. but i'm curious how much of a physical pounding he will be able to give/take on defense given his back issues

he should try to model a lot of his game after klay