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I'll be honest, I've actually avoided the phish appearances of the Ghosts of the Forest songs because I still have the bias that they're bad. But I do have a recollection that "Beneath a Sea of Stars" is very pretty and am excited to dive back in.

One way to avoid getting the name wrong and simultaneously level up your Phish fandom is to use acronyms for everything. Just call it GOTF (or gtfo!)

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link

Part of why I like that "Soul Planet" Shoreline jam so much is that it's the newish Trey song people bitch about the most, "oh you hate 'Soul Planet' do you? here you go...".

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link

my god that is not where i expected them to take "simple." 4.0!!!

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link

i should also say my ghosts of the forest fandom is also rooted in the fact that my favorite phish songs are "walls of the cave" and "waves" and trey writing more songs about how awesome the ocean is (even when that ocean is a metaphor... for LOVE) is only a plus in my book

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link

Yeah that "Simple" is great.

I also think the 8/31 "Stash" deserves some major attention, though it's understandably overshadowed by the "Soul Planet".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZlmRRPUv80

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:52 (two years ago) link

xps

There are certainly terrible lyrics in all the eras, but I think a lot of fans feel like they're in on the joke of the earlier terrible lyrics

"The tires are the things on your car that make contact with the road" - wink wink

"The ocean is love" - embarrassing sideways glances

Of course there are good ones in all eras as well. Unaccountably, one of my favorite Phish lyrics is

Rabid victim martyr stranded
Level headed boy, ya better bend
Soon your luscious honey sugar
Mellifluous life is gonna end

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link

oh yeah, Waves rocks. Brad have you heard this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYUNK0V4EwA

If not get excited.

Another great underwater ocean song is "Theme from the Bottom", has great lyrics too

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link

lol the "fluffhead" lyrics, bane of my existence

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link

Of course there are good ones in all eras as well. Unaccountably, one of my favorite Phish lyrics is

Oh absolutely, gems in every era too. I dunno, to me if part of the current, happy, settled and productive Trey means getting a higher ratio of cringe lyrics in songs, I'm willing to accept the bargain.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link

Still never dreamed of the day a Phish thread would be bumped so often around here, <3 to see the enthusiasm here.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link

haha, i am a longtime phish fan, it has been my secret shame as an ilxor and i have felt very validated by y'all

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link

Rumors flying that the upcoming Fall Tour is going to be shifted to outdoor only venues. Which makes sense but does not bode well for the rumored winter tour that was going to include three nights in Chicago. Sad that I'll have to go yet another full year without seeing the guys. Going to love the future when tours for half the year are restricted solely to the warmer states.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 September 2021 14:21 (two years ago) link

On the plus side in a few years they'll all be warmer states so no worries

joygoat, Friday, 10 September 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

Yeah then we'll just have to worry about fire, floods and intense weather cancelling half the shows.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 September 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

what a time to be alive

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 10 September 2021 14:39 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

catching up on some shows that were recommended to me during the project. 7/29/03 was great, love an unsettling first set full of bust-outs and a second set "crosseyed" that has the most rocket piercing the firmament of space at one billion miles per hour vibe. i think the only knock against it is "harpua" is not my favorite phish experience, even though this one is fun. the cosmic donut-themed "harpua" from the baker's dozen was so entertaining it may have ruined the rest of them for me

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 26 September 2021 15:15 (two years ago) link

i just started 7/30/03, which has a reputation as a majorly dark, jammed-out show, and it is kind of the show of my dreams so far, this "scents and subtle sounds" is incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkBXEcnhjtg

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 26 September 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link

this may be the eeriest phish show i've ever heard. five stars

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 26 September 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link

revisiting my atlantic city phish show, can everyone here please confirm that i witnessed the greatest "split open and melt" of all time https://relisten.net/phish/2021/08/14/split-open-and-melt?source=317834

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 27 September 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link

that was the phish i came to see and they fucking delivered

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 27 September 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Apparently they played "And So To Bed" from the White Tape for the first time ever last night. God bless this band

J. Sam, Saturday, 16 October 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link

sort of a capper for my phish project https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/learning-to-love-phish/

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link

oh awesome! very excited to read that having accompanied you on the journey! and major lol at the picture they chose to accompany it. just on the off chance any readers might not have an entrenched sense of them as the dorkiest band on earth

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link

Awesome Brad, can't wait to dive in! As Lavator says, even more excited having been able to see bits of your journey along the way.

Also, yeah that photo is lol, "quick, find the dorkiest picture of these dorks you can find". Feel like this was the runner-up:

https://phishsonian.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/1723253_10151854724266290_996336485_n.jpg

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link

Just finished the piece, I love it. I appreciate the honesty and the skepticism that framed part of the journey, pretty common starting point for a lot of people I know into Phish.

A far fairer piece on the band than I'd ever expect to see on Pitchfork, tbh. Brad - I would love to see you do a Sunday review for one of their albums, studio or live! Hampton Comes Alive could be a fun one, or Slip Stitch and Pass.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link

i would honestly love to write a full piece about the story of the ghost

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:06 (two years ago) link

Even better!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link

Will check it out!

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

was gonna say, i'm not in the biz but one of the trio of Billy Breathes/Story of the Ghost/Farmhouse seems most likely to get greenlit for a Sunday Review

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link

I only jumped on with you for a week or two during your Phish trip, but as usual, Brad, love your enthusiasm and writing.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link

Yeah this was a great read, and at this point I should probably mention that it was this thread that moved me to register an account after reading ILX off/on for circa eighteen years.

Even if at this point I probably won't get around to writing the "reckoning with Phish" megapost I'd originally intended to put together, I wanted to take a moment to say "thanks" to Brad -- hearing all of this stuff through your ears was a wild ride and brought me a great deal of wholly unexpected joy!

New York Review of Wooks (swim), Thursday, 28 October 2021 01:26 (two years ago) link

Also, loved the detail about the lyrics of "Farmhouse" bc during my own Phish odyssey I got extremely hung up on that song for about a week during which my take progressed from "this particular band kicking off a record with a song that's like 'welcome to our place, sorry about all the flies' is maybe a little too on the nose" to "gosh, this is unbearably gorgeous" to suddenly considering the second verse and becoming v unsettled by the implication that the farmhouse may not be what it seems and the whole scenario may be dystopian (protagonist embarks on some sort of wwoofing journey/commune visit/etc in the aftermath of a bad breakup, initially innocuous situation is not what it seems, winds up doing forced labor and meditating bitterly on the nature of betrayal, never even gets to see the northern lights) to forcefully telling myself "cmon now, the 'stinging lash' is just the flies, right?" Like a much hairier version of what happens when Alannah Myles' "Black Velvet" catches you off guard in a grocery store and you find yourself unable to stop wondering exactly what the deal is with "a new religion that'll bring you to your knees."

New York Review of Wooks (swim), Thursday, 28 October 2021 01:40 (two years ago) link

The head pic chosen for that article was golden

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 28 October 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link

Home run, Brad. (And you have me wanting to explore the band, too. The live material I’ve heard was always more exciting than the handful of studio records I’ve sampled.)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 October 2021 12:20 (two years ago) link

Bonkers "countdown" set last night, even if it led to exactly the predictable encore choice. Still, great start for the run. Seeing a lot of speculation that this means a numbers related Halloween cover, with 5150, 2112 and Pearl Jam's Ten being among the more popular guesses:

set 1: 2001, 1999 > 555 > 46 Days, Strawberry Letter 23 > Twenty Years Later
set 2: Seven Below > If 6 was 9 > Five Years > Two Versions of Me > NO2, Army of One, My Sweet One, First Tube > Character Zero

encore: Backwards Down the Number Line, Grind

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:03 (two years ago) link

lmao that's amazing

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:33 (two years ago) link

You are truly converted if you find a gimmick that high concept to be amazing and not inducive of eye rolls. I’m with you though! I have been at a few shows that had setlist mayhem, and a couple high concept ones where the first letters of all the songs spelled something out. They don’t always translate for posterity but it is pretty electric to be at a concert where that is happening.

Brad, I read and loved your piece on Pitchfork. Subsequently not one but two old Phish show buddies alerted me to its presence and gave us their own rave reviews. You struck the perfect balance between naming and articulating what makes Phish such persona non grata for so many, and what the fans see and experience that makes that first perspective hard to relate to.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 29 October 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link

PHISH, SATURDAY 10/30/2021
MGM GRAND
Las Vegas, NV
SET 1: The Dogs > Ocelot, Turtle in the Clouds, Run Like an Antelope, Camel Walk, Wombat > Guyute, Big Black Furry Creature from Mars, Shaggy Dog, Dog Faced Boy, The Sloth, Llama, I Am the Walrus

SET 2: Dogs Stole Things, Your Pet Cat > Runaway Jim[1] > Piper -> Birds of a Feather, Harpua > Bug > The Lizards, Farmhouse

ENCORE: Vultures, Sleeping Monkey > Possum

[1] Unfinished.

J. Sam, Sunday, 31 October 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link

Also +1 great work on the Pitchfork article, Brad!

J. Sam, Sunday, 31 October 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link

they did it! the all animals set!!!

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 October 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

also thank you all for your kind comments on the piece, thrilled it has been well-received by the phish community, who i relentlessly owned in said piece

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 October 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC8gpD6h3Z0

peace, man, Monday, 1 November 2021 12:16 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/fyo85pa.png

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 1 November 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link

a youtube fan channel recently uploaded video of my atlantic city show's "split open and melt"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCsywXHAM10

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link

god that shit is the greatest ever

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

I just discovered this Benevento/Russo Duo with Mike Gordon 53-minute Foam from 2005. I'm only 17 minute in, but holy shit. This is what I wish Phish was like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67oH6ZCiGPA

peace, man, Saturday, 12 March 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

btw, I did listen to the entire thing last night and you should too.

peace, man, Sunday, 13 March 2022 22:33 (two years ago) link

Thanks for that! I saw this lineup in 2006 but they definitely did not bless it with a 53-minute "Foam".

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 March 2022 13:28 (two years ago) link

i live where they were supposedly going to have their last concert so what a bunch of duds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7pMiso2dxg

xzanfar, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:40 (two years ago) link


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