what's cooking? part 5: 2017-2027

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Haha! It takes a special kind of bean stan to appreciate something that has to cook for 7 hours and at the end it's still a bean. I appreciate that. I made chili with some of my RG yellow beans last week and it was good chili but didn't really showcase the beans. I'll have to go and think about what I've done and mend my ways for the next recipe.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 9 September 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link

Certainly the more non-bean stuff that's in a bean recipe, the harder it will be to appreciate any subtle bean differences and the harder it is to justify paying a higher price.

Taliban! (PBKR), Thursday, 9 September 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link

roll that beautiful bean footage!

criminally negligible (harbl), Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

I am excited about the following dried varieties in our pantry:

Peruvian yellow beans
red Salvadoran beans
Whipple beans, a rare heirloom

sleeve, Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:21 (two years ago) link

Made the lentil recipe that someone linked here ages ago: https://www.daringgourmet.com/misir-wat-ethiopian-spiced-red-lentils/

Don’t know why I don’t make it more often, I added carrots and diced yam with the garlic/tomato/berbere, and left out the additional salt, and it turned out great.

― JoeStork, Tuesday, September 7, 2021 10:31 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

this may have been me, i have made this a bunch of times and love it. i think i will make it tonight, in fact. i also put sweet potatoes in it if i have them. i have an actual mesir wat recipe but this is easier.

criminally negligible (harbl), Thursday, 9 September 2021 21:11 (two years ago) link

actually making it now, i made some chicken stock today (no celery or carrots because i don't like how it makes it taste too vegetable-y when making things like this). i need to get more berbere and store it better. gets kind of oxidized and loses the nice berbere smell.

criminally negligible (harbl), Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:26 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

made the mozza at home lasagna, complete with bechamel, and enjoyed it. nancy has a dried arbol chile, bay leaves, and half of an onion in the butter/flour/milk while you make it. you take that stuff out later, but I think it results in an excellent flavor. wonder if it could win some anti-bechamels over. probably not.

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

i made mapo tofu last night, w/impossible beef

good stuff

gbx, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

yeah have made it successfully with beanfeast before, so a decent meat substitute would be perfect

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Idk if I’m just late to the party or if this is a well kept secret but: placing a lil dish of water on the cutting board while you chop an onion prevents it from making your eyes water.

just1n3, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

o really? i had to slice 6 onions the other day and used my child's swimming goggles as my eyes have been extra sensitive recently! not exactly comfortable but did the trick!

kinder, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

I can’t remember the science exactly but it’s something about the thing that causes the stinging is hydrophilic and your eyes are usually the closest source of water so if you place another water source closer to the onion, your eyes won’t be affected.

I tried it last night and not a single tear was shed!

just1n3, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 15:16 (two years ago) link

hmm, might try that. yeah the source of the stinging is whatever substance in onions coming into contact with the water in your eyes and turning into acid

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

Are some people less disposed to onion tears? Cutting them rarely ever bothers me, and I don't do anything special. Maybe because I wear contact lenses?

Leee Tigre (Leee), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

yes, contact lenses help

John Lakeman gives pipe lecture (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link

I buy sweet onions (vidalia, peru, maui) over "storage" varieties pretty exclusively and never get the tears.

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link

Contact lenses are absolutely protective. Whenever I cut onions in just glasses I am amazed at the difference.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Maybe this question is better on the Instant Pot thread, but apropos of the previous BEANS talk: if I have a full recipe for, say, chili but instead of canned, I use dried beans, would I just add all of the ingredients (veggies, other beans, etc.) and then set the pressure cooking to however long it'd take to cook the dried beans?

And as a followup, the beans I'd be cooking from dry in this recipe are supposed to disintegrate to thicken the chili, so I'd reckon that I'd need to add more pressure cooking time in addition to just cooking them?

Nelleee Hooper (Leee), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 23:00 (two years ago) link

Seems like that would result in overcooked veggies. I'd be inclined to cook the dry beans separately (maybe leaving them a bit al dente), then do the normal cooking with everything.

nickn, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

yeah i would absolutely cook them separately. the remaining ingredients are going to be mush if you pressure cook them for that long.

certified juice therapist (harbl), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link

Got it, thanks!

Nelleee Hooper (Leee), Thursday, 18 November 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link

yeah definitely cosigning the cook beans separately approach

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 November 2021 01:10 (two years ago) link

Been cooking dried white beans with carrots, celery, onion, garlic, thyme, arbol, parm rind. Then take all but beans out. Add some cooked homemade italian sausage and kale. Good winter meal.

Oxnard Jeweler (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 20 November 2021 04:24 (two years ago) link

update: i am a bean cooking wizard since this thread set me straight

i have made at least three batches of EXCELLENT beans and found a local farm stand selling their dried beans for $2 a pound! 😃

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 November 2021 04:27 (two years ago) link

whoa, that is not a lot of beans for beans

Oxnard Jeweler (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 20 November 2021 04:29 (two years ago) link

compared to fuckin $6 a pound for rumplstiltskin’s rancho gordo its a STEAL

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 November 2021 04:30 (two years ago) link

update: i am a bean cooking wizard since this thread set me straight

i have made at least three batches of EXCELLENT beans and found a local farm stand selling their dried beans for $2 a pound! 😃

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, November 19, 2021 11:27 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Hurray! Beans4life.

I made red beans and rice last week with a bone in ham shank that was very good.

hocus pocus, alakazam (PBKR), Saturday, 20 November 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i bought mr veg an air fryer for christmas after my brother in law was talking them up at thanksgiving

we need another gadget like a hole in the head but we also eat at home like 95% of the time so hey, why not give it a whirl

i can see it being useful in summer when we dont want to use oven/stove

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 December 2021 07:39 (two years ago) link

i got one as a prize for doing a good job at work (there were like 10 choices and most of them sucked) and it's ok. i have a tiny kitchen though so most of the time i forget it's in the basement and i just roast things anyway. it's so big!

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 17 December 2021 12:09 (two years ago) link

They are too big. We were given one for free and use it for frozen fried foods for breakfast or the kids.

accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 17 December 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link

i still don’t know what an air fryer is

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link

it is just a plastic convection oven

towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 17 December 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link

Going to controversially say that air fryers are good (I do not own one but would if more counter space)

mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 17 December 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link

the air fryer is too big and spaceship like to be kept on the counter. Got to store it under the stairs or in a shed until breakfast potato time.

accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 17 December 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link

Found out our oven is completely unreliable wrt temperature in early November. I immediately started getting hit with ads for the Anova Precision Oven (I own the Anova sous vide thing). It's a convection oven with very close temp control and steam. Proofs dough, does bagless sous vide, is an air fryer. Slightly larger than our microwave and I was able to squeeze a 15 lb turkey in there (which turned out better than ever imagined a turkey could). Haven't air fried anything yet, but all other functions are great. Fortunately I was able to make counter space for it, and will probably get rid of the toaster oven.

Jaq, Friday, 17 December 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link

can you bake in it?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link

Oh yeah, baking works great, also roasting and all the usual oven-y things. I'm still working out how much faster it roasts with the convection going, it's a work in progress.

Jaq, Friday, 17 December 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link

one thing you may want to try is adjusting temperature, not time. i usually go 25 degrees cooler with convection and plan for roughly the same time suggested.

call all destroyer, Friday, 17 December 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

Oh that sounds like a great approach, will do that tonight.

Jaq, Friday, 17 December 2021 20:37 (two years ago) link

my regular oven has a convection setting but i've literally never used it and don't know what it's for lol

it also has random other stuff like '3D convection' 'pizza' etc. i use none of them.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:55 (two years ago) link

Convection will allow you to cook at lower temp but will dry out food surfaces that aren't covered.

accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:16 (two years ago) link

pizza setting makes everything pizza iirc, go nuts with that one

bitter brutal brittle (cat), Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:21 (two years ago) link

holy shit

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:27 (two years ago) link

My understanding of air fryers is that you can make your oven or toaster oven do the same thing by elevating the food off a tray and onto a rack so the air can move around it?? My oven is old, not convection, and the heat goes off and on so I haven’t used it for years. Our toaster oven has a “turbo” setting, no idea if that means convection though.

just1n3, Saturday, 18 December 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link

It might be like the turbo button computers used to have that either did nothing or made them go slower!

If there is no actual fan moving the air around inside the oven, the only convection currents will be near the walls unfortunately and the food will still rely on conduction and radiant to heat.

Jaq, Saturday, 18 December 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

Duh why didn’t I think of that? I’m almost positive there’s no fan in there

just1n3, Saturday, 18 December 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

Why is tomato paste in a tube suddenly so hard to find? I've gone to half a dozen supermarkets this past week and even the ones that used to carry it don't anymore.

Born Sleeepy (Nuxx) (Leee), Friday, 22 April 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

because they want you to suffer through scooping out the contents of dumb tiny cans & freezing the lumps or just forgeting the half used can in the back of the fridge bc god forbid we ever have convenient packaging

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 April 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link

aren't the tubes generally more concentrated than the canned stuff?

Michael Flatley's (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 23 April 2022 02:31 (one year ago) link

i dont think so?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 April 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link


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