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I take it back again, what a second half

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 9 September 2021 04:26 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

The @nytimes reporting that a board member of the American Outlaws agreed to a free World Cup trip in exchange in part for reporting fans who make social media posts critical of Qatar. https://t.co/JUhAeYE7RP

— Justin Egan (@EganSoccerWords) November 3, 2022

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

I continue to be very self-satisfied about my "FUCK AO" stance

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

I never knew a lot about them, found that their fans sometimes operated on the fringe of acceptability at matches I went to where they were there, but THIS = "fuck no, fire board member immediately and suspend AO for a year".

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

Perhaps not surprisingly there's a vein of very jingoistic tendencies in AO alongside a much broader history of bigotry against Mexicans especially

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

U.S. MEN’S NATIONAL TEAM - 2022 FIFA WORLD CUP ROSTER BY POSITION (CLUB/COUNTRY; CAPS/GOALS; HOMETOWN)

GOALKEEPERS (3)****: Ethan Horvath (Luton Town/ENG; 8/0; Highlands Ranch, Colo.), Sean Johnson (New York City FC; 10/0; Lilburn, Ga.), Matt Turner (Arsenal/ENG; 20/0; Park Ridge, N.J.)

DEFENDERS (9)****: Cameron Carter-Vickers (Celtic/SCO; 11/0; Southend-on-Sea, England), Sergiño Dest (AC Milan/ITA; 19/2; Almere, Netherlands), Aaron Long (New York Red Bulls; 29/3; Oak Hills, Calif.), Shaq Moore (Nashville SC; 15/1; Powder Springs, Ga.), Tim Ream (Fulham/ENG; 46/1; St. Louis, Mo.), Antonee Robinson (Fulham/ENG; 29/2; Liverpool, England), Joe Scally (Borussia Mönchengladbach/GER; 3/0; Lake Grove, N.Y.), DeAndre Yedlin (Inter Miami CF; 75/0; Seattle, Wash.), Walker Zimmerman (Nashville SC; 33/3; Lawrenceville, Ga.)

MIDFIELDERS (7)****: Brenden Aaronson (Leeds United/ENG; 24/6; Medford, N.J.), Kellyn Acosta (LAFC; 53/2; Plano, Texas), Tyler Adams (Leeds United/ENG; 32/1; Wappingers Falls, N.Y.), Luca de la Torre (Celta Vigo/ESP; 12/0; San Diego, Calif.), Weston McKennie (Juventus/ITA; 37/9; Little Elm, Texas), Yunus Musah (Valencia/ESP; 19/0; London, England), Cristian Roldan (Seattle Sounders FC; 32/0; Pico Rivera, Calif.)

FORWARDS (7)****: Jesús Ferreira (FC Dallas; 15/7; McKinney, Texas), Jordan Morris (Seattle Sounders; 49/11; Mercer Island, Wash.), Christian Pulisic (Chelsea/ENG; 52/21; Hershey, Pa.), Gio Reyna (Borussia Dortmund/GER; 14/4; Bedford, N.Y.), Josh Sargent (Norwich City/ENG; 20/5; O’Fallon, Mo.), Tim Weah (Lille/FRA; 25/3; Rosedale, N.Y.), Haji Wright (Antalyaspor/TUR; 3/1; Los Angeles, Calif.)

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 10 November 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Terminally online fans already melting down over this lineup

#USMNT rotation? Nope. Just one change in XI -- Turner; Dest, Ream, Zimmerman, Robinson; Adams, Musah, McKennie; Weah, Wright (for Sargent), Pulisic.

— Paul Kennedy (@pkedit) November 25, 2022

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 25 November 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

Reyna shoulda started

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 November 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link

After every big win Berhalter rushes back to hotel room to check internet hoping we like him now. Sorry man, not gonna to happen. Win as much as you want. Frankly it only makes us madder

— watke (@watke_) November 30, 2022

I loled

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link

And now?

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 December 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link

Think this was about their level.

Very interested in who the next coach is. I was never a complete hater but even if you go with an American there are better options than Berhalter.

Also anticipating who steps up: Paxton Aaronson, Pepi, Tillman, Slonina, Busio, and more including names we don't know yet.

Goalkeeping seems sorted after some absurd (for the US) uncertainty. Between Turner, Horvath, and Steffen things are pretty solid there.

Also there's the what if factor. Several players who likely would have been on the roster were injured. Chris Richards in particular could have been starting at CB, where they weren't really hurting until the final game where Netherlands let them have the ball and then picked off passes for counterattacks.

Overall, Adams, Musah, McKennie could probably be the midfield for another 8 years. Pulisic and Weah are solid on the wings for another cycle, Reyna who knows (but hopeful), and Dest/Jedi are also very good.

Finishing? Who knows. Ferreira and Wright both were top 3-ish in their respective leagues and had only a fluke goal between them to show for it in Qatar. Sargent has been doing well for Norwich but didn't show much either.

I have gotten more into this stuff bc I have a close friend who works with the team in a non technical role. Between the Klinsmann, Arena II, Sarachan, and now Berhalter eras it's a lot to take in. I think they're as good now as ever, with some growth, experience at clubs, and development of other spots on the field, who knows what could happen in 26 on concacaf turf?

Gotta be killers in comparison to today, though.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 3 December 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link

Oh and Brendan Aaronson too, midfield is apparently the new strongest spot instead of GK

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 3 December 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link

The dearth of “in their prime” players due to the lost generation that didn’t qualify in 2018 was a glaring issue. Jordan Morris, veteran presence? Lol

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 3 December 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

Gio Reyna. https://t.co/YEzIiImcQK

— Tom Bogert (@tombogert) December 11, 2022

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Sunday, 11 December 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link

omg the online screeching about this 😂🤣😂🤣

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Sunday, 11 December 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

what in the waht is going on with berhalter

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link

Gregg Berhalter statement below relating to an attempt to blackmail him re: an incident involving he and his now wife Rosalind. #usmnt https://t.co/XSTdDwrC5H

— Jeff Carlisle (@JeffreyCarlisle) January 3, 2023

apparently ppl hate him enough to go all oppo research on him, kinda fucked up

I think this was a good way to handle it… I don't necessarily want him to be the coach anymore but it has nothing to do with this

yeah wow. it seems like us soccer isn't moving forward with him, but that this is not the reason why

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link

I can't stand oppo research like that because it's never about the victim, it's about opportunism. no matter what they claim to the contrary.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:34 (one year ago) link

I don't give a fuck about Berhalter being ousted, nor this being public knowledge, but I do object to basically using victims as pawns.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:35 (one year ago) link

The wildest part about this: Berhalter and Claudio Reyna went to high school together. They played on the USMNT together. Reyna's wife, Danielle Egan, went to college and was best friends with Rosalind Berhalter. I seriously think the Reyna's leaked this bc of Gio...

— bones (@thekleschprince) January 3, 2023

Who tf knows at this point but this would be so fucked. USSF is a relatively small and tight knit org.

confirmed! apparently

Massive #USMNT story here. @BonaguraESPN and @JeffreyCarlisle get the confirmation: https://t.co/ZIZpxd7zEK

— James Tyler (@JamesTylerESPN) January 4, 2023

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link

pretty sure he just cut off his son's career with USMNT off at the knees there

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

gio might prove too talented to kneecap him for his whole career but i would guess he won't be with the team for much of the next cycle

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link

this is typical peak USMNT brain here

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link

obviously not excusing what Gregg did to his wife back in college, which even he has acknowledged happened, but it seems like it was a private matter that they handled between the two of them, and now it's become public record (quite possibly against her wishes) and purely for the purpose of being angry about a son's playing time.

that's gonna make it real easy to hire the next coach.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link

it would make berhalter or whoever the next coach is look just about as bad to retaliate against gio for the actions of his father (to say nothing of the nose-to-spite-the-face aspect of benching one of your best players when you have like... 5 good players). but i bet it will be awkward!

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

I mean, it wouldn't be fair, necessarily, but I could see the next coach be reluctant to call him up altogether. easier to say "he didn't fit my current squad design" than to call him up and not play him and get accused of 'benching' Gio.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

that may happen but it's not like when france excommunicated benzema and still is france. the US can't really afford to just be tossing one of its only world class players overboard, so i'm sure everyone will get over it

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link

in any event, the ussf will prob just re-sign berhalter now to avoid being sued. so congrats to the reynas

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link

this is typical peak USMNT brain here

u-9 AYSO morelike imho, lmao

Gio Reyna is hardly world class tbh, he's very talented but also very young and potentially injury-prone. He did some stupid shit during the World Cup and that was dealt with—should have been the end of it. I imagine he will be back as soon as the next cycle starts in earnest, barring injury.

Honestly I see this as much more damaging to Claudio Reyna's career (currently sporting director with Austin FC, previously with NYCFC, etc). Like I said, the world of the USSF is small. Actions like this are relatively easy to track down and people have long memories. Eric Wynalda rocked the boat a lot and has basically been blacklisted; it has happened to others as well. (Not saying that is right, but it is reality.)

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link

Also there's nothing saying they need to fill the manager position immediately. Dave Sarachan was the interim coach after Arena was fired and that lasted most of a year iirc.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

more confirmation

Danielle Reyna, mother of U.S. winger Gio Reyna, said in statement that she told USSF sporting director Earnie Stewart about Gregg Berhalter incident from 31 years ago involving his now-wife.

Full statement and details here: https://t.co/sYqWCMRMGz

— Paul Tenorio (@PaulTenorio) January 4, 2023

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

One of the more intriguing usmnt callups in recent times, Alan Soñora, who has been playing with Independiente in Argentina

🎥 For all the USMNT fans excited about his call up, here’s a clip of Alan Soñora’s goals & assists in 2022 #USMNT 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/IzRCQjuXKI

— 🇺🇸 USMNT vs Haters (@USMNTvsHaters) January 20, 2023

His father was a long time player for Boca and then came to MLS

one month passes...

ugh, so gross

Claudio's mega misogynist text about female referees is something I'm sure he's glad to have shared w/ the world (actually, probably)

one month passes...

lolol the US just conceded the most US-conceded goal ever at the friendly with Mexico

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 03:38 (eleven months ago) link

Antuna dispossessing a US defender at midfield, who also happened to be the only man between the ball and the goal at the time, and then taking it the entire way and scoring 1 v 1 on Johnson

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 03:39 (eleven months ago) link

El Tri strike first!

Uriel Antuna takes advantage of the #USMNT backline and puts it home.
📺: @Telemundo & @Peacock for Spanish coverage. pic.twitter.com/HGPiILcTkx

— NBC Sports Soccer (@NBCSportsSoccer) April 20, 2023

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 03:41 (eleven months ago) link

actually the initial backpass was an even worse idea lol...I didn't even see that in real time, just the dispossession

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 03:43 (eleven months ago) link

I missed this one, but I guess I really didn't

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 20 April 2023 22:39 (eleven months ago) link

Abysmal match

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 April 2023 01:13 (eleven months ago) link

Though the equalizer was nice.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 April 2023 01:14 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Iiiiiiiinteresting

BREAKING: FIFA has approved Folarin Balogun's one-time switch to represent the US national team, FIFA has confirmed to The Athletic.

Balogun, 21, has 19 goals in 34 games on loan at Reims from Arsenal. He most recently was with England youth int'l set-up. pic.twitter.com/iEITZIIAea

— Tom Bogert (@tombogert) May 16, 2023

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 15:58 (eleven months ago) link

finally a real striker

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 17:04 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

Until it costs them points in a competition it's never gonna change.

Maybe not even then, sadlol


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