https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Gjycc5ejc
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link
I've always liked that (mostly mimed?) clip. They all look like they are on different drugs.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 14:59 (two years ago) link
tbh, i thought this revive was about hooky selling off more stuff.
― mark e, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link
^^ there is no end to this
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Be0AAOSwEdFhBArL/s-l400.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link
what has Hook sold before and is selling now?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link
The YouTube description of that Procession says it's "a new edit of archive footage of New Order, recut and synced to their song Procession". I think it's fan made, not an official clip.
― Derek and Clive Get the Horn Street (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link
sic :
https://www.nme.com/news/music/peter-hook-is-selling-off-hundreds-of-new-order-artefacts-including-an-nme-award-2980239
― mark e, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link
Some amazing stuff for sale. Martin Hannett 7” reels!
― dan selzer, Thursday, 9 September 2021 04:46 (two years ago) link
Anyone who buys that Prophet-5 and expects it to be functional after 35 years in storage is in for a grievous disappointment.
― Vast Halo, Thursday, 9 September 2021 08:30 (two years ago) link
a real New Order melodica https://bid.omegaauctions.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-301---new-order-cased-melodica-soprano/?lot=14685&so=0&st=&sto=0&au=45&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=48&pn=7&g=1
he's got two
― dan selzer, Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link
Lawrence Wiener poster https://bid.omegaauctions.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-59---new-order-original-1987-substance-poster/?lot=14411&so=0&st=&sto=0&au=45&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=48&pn=2&g=1
― dan selzer, Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
Some of the stuff in there is utterly daft, and some of it is super awesome.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link
One of his last auctions had a bass amp, the same as the one in my garage.
Allowing for the "yeah, but that one was owned by Peter Hook", the opening bid price was surprisingly high.
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 September 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link
i enjoyed looking at what was in "hooky's post-punk record collection(s)"
― dan selzer, Thursday, 9 September 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link
Destroy these imo.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link
+1 to "State of the Nation"
― Indexed, Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link
whoah, The Village? No way.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link
"Music Complete" is possibly top five, and easily my fav 'reunion' album. (ie "Get Ready" onwards)
― Mark G, Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link
― dan selzer,
too dopey
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link
Vicious Streak is a great song. I really like Draculas Castle as well, but that ones harder to defend than Vicious Streak. You're mostly right, but also wrong. I'd also place the blame for Subculture remix on John Robie, so if you want to start calling out which New Order remixes are shit, that's going to be a very long list. I suppose the entire point of posting a list like this is so people will argue with you or tell you how smart you are. I hope you generate sufficient engagement with your blog post.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link
I hope you generate sufficient engagement with your blog post.
New Borad Description?
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link
How could you not include Slow Jam?
The afternoon was very clearThe sun was beating down on meI got thirsty for a beerThat I had to go to seaThe sea was very roughIt made me feel sickBut I like that kind of stuffIt beats arithmetic
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link
I suppose the entire point of posting a list like this is so people will argue with you or tell you how smart you are. I hope you generate sufficient engagement with your blog post.
Thanks?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link
But I'm sorry, I guess you're the only passionate New Order fan.
If bad lyrics is the threshold for landing on the destroy list, there's not much of the New Order catalog that survives. The miracle of this band is that they're still somehow completely essential despite the lyrics. And the singing.
― enochroot, Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link
I agree in part but also feel this doesn’t give Bernard enough credit for his many memorable and (sorry) hooky lyrics. He can conjure up some unique images and tap into powerful sentiment - especially (but not limited to) his absolute peak of (let’s say) True Faith -> Regret
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Thursday, 11 November 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link
You are so wrong about The Village it’s painful.
― A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 November 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link
Well, I went from finding "Guilty Partner" meh to considering it bloody essential. Hope is the thing with feathers!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 November 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link
"The Village" is one of my favorite New Order songs!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 November 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link
The Regret lyrics seem promising at first. But I can't imagine that he laboured too long over the chorus lyrics:
I would like a place I could call my own /Have a conversation on the telephone
Also, The Village might be in my top 10 New Order songs, so successful challop there.
― enochroot, Thursday, 11 November 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link
Vicious Streak is tranced-out magic to me. I was expecting the entirety of Republic after the first three tracks.
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 11 November 2021 22:34 (two years ago) link
i <3 the village, that little switch up in the drums and the synths for the third verse is pure joy
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 11 November 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link
The Village for me is not in the top drawer - but certainly not in the bottom. Chorus couplet is pretty awful, but I guess only averagely bad by Bernard's lyric standards.
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 11 November 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link
I find The Village affecting. Lyrically and musically it captures a goofy / giddy new love feeling, and the sense that the entire world confirms your special thing, before re-framing it at the end with "their love died three years ago." Like he was looking at a happy photograph of his now-divorced parents the whole time, trying to imagine how it must have once been. Out of the context of the song it's doggerel but so what.
― Freeze Instr., Friday, 12 November 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link
well put
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 November 2021 01:17 (two years ago) link
To me this is kind of genius? Catchy rhyme, rhythmically perfect for the song but also conveys some kind of yearning for normalcy in the face of an unspecified emotional devastation
I just read the lyrics and yep they read terribly, but when they sit on top of the glorious rush of the music those random couplets can hit (me) profoundly. That messy blend of banality and romanticism is kind of how my brain actually thinks, I think.
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Friday, 12 November 2021 02:15 (two years ago) link
Speaking about a lot of NO songs there, not just Regret.
otm. Can't do them at karaoke.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 12 November 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link
The Internet seems to think every single song they ever wrote is about Ian Curtis
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Friday, 12 November 2021 03:10 (two years ago) link
you're so right emsworth - I mean, the song is called "Regret" and ends "just wait till tomorrow / I guess that's what they all say / just before they fall apart". That and "Waiting for the Siren's Call" can bring me to tears if they hit at the right moment. That indefinable mix of banality and genius is what keeps them so fresh in my heart.
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 12 November 2021 03:33 (two years ago) link
oh fuck I didn't mean to plagiarise you while praising your take!
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 12 November 2021 03:34 (two years ago) link
Not relevant to Alfred’s list but the live version of “Waiting for the Siren’s Call” crushes the original.
― A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 12 November 2021 04:01 (two years ago) link
Hard disagree, I mean it's a cool reworking but it loses all the poignancy, and it's not New Order without the acid sting of guitar lines and that bass melody.I guess I will be shouted down but Sirens' Call is the last NO album for me, as irritating a shit as Hooky undoubtedly is, the band is the four of them or GTFO.Amid all the rancour and sniping, to pull out a song like that - in which all four absolutely shine at their best - is almost miraculous. Everything after that is spare change, to me.
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 12 November 2021 04:45 (two years ago) link
what a fucking idiot I am for forgetting that Gillian bowed out for that album, there's no defence for self-clowning like that.Great song though. I will now retire from saying anything online ever.
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 12 November 2021 04:48 (two years ago) link
I like State of the Nation and The Village. From the 80s I think the only song I really can't bear is 1963, mostly because I can't fathom how those lyrics ever made it to a finished song. So many painful turns of phrase.
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Friday, 12 November 2021 06:16 (two years ago) link
Vicious Streak is Top 5 for me and I would also put I Told You So in the top tier.You could easily populate the worst 10 with all of Lost Sirens + Liar and Chemical + State of the Nation and Shellshock
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 12 November 2021 08:51 (two years ago) link
State of the Nation and The Village are great, as is 1963. If there's a NO track from the 80s that I can see an argument for being on the list it's Touched by the Hand of God, but that's redeemed by its video
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 12 November 2021 11:10 (two years ago) link
Weird, thought I posted, but I like "Touched" and don't like "1963," which is kind of like "Love Vigilantes" if that song was bad.
Where the heck is the rando Jimmy Cliff cover from?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 November 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link
A 2003 War Child album
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 12 November 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link