Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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Pretty edifying watching soi disant feminists who'd rather tear down feminist and gender theory than give up hating all trans people

luxury belief

Oh so now religious fundamentalists are bad? Because swerfs and terfs usually have no problem aligning with the Christians ones.

now that it's established that the other branches don't actually have editorial independence i'm really looking forward to "are the guardian us & au worse than they used to be" slowly becoming increasingly common

in the decades since this thread started the guardian kowtowed to the MI5 in a fashion that made the Murdoch papers look like slackers. Aligned themselves with the transphobes and expended industrial amounts of energy attacking Corbynism. We need to stop helping keep them alive by giving them reluctant hate clicks and treat them as nothing different different from the spectator or the telegraph going forwards. They need to die.

Can confirm

ShariVari's prediction was correct about their explanation but it makes no sense to me. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/guardian-judith-butler-interview-trans-terfs_n_6138d856e4b0f1b9706915be the criminal charge doesn't change the question or the answer, and even if they thought it was important to include they could just put an editor's note in brackets. it's just mindblowing how dishonest it is! btw i didn't even know the guardian had a separate u.s. or australian version.

The author had rewritten the question to remove reference to that incident.

the guardian au is solidly centre-left & genuinely one of the best news sources here. not inclined to centrist hand-wringing, left-bashing, transphobia, or anything like that, thankfully. it probably helps that australian labor isn't quite as terrible as uk labour (though they're still shit in plenty of ways) but also they're not as committed to defending the bad parts either

This is very true, though they do have one of the most annoying columnists in the world, Br1gid Del@ney

still not quite as inane as some of the uk's though

Day 3 of a series of articles where a bunch of writers project whatever the hell they want on Emma Raducanu.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/14/emma-raducanu-famous-teenage-girls-young-women

I veer between gentle outrage and "sorry you'll have to get used to it, these morons will never change" every time I hear or see her name this week

There is a lot of bullshit in women's tennis and it's coverage but it is a space where women just win and can get on with whatever they want. As for Raducanu, she has just won! And you're telling me she hasn't? Ok..

Hadley Freeman appears to be leaving The Guardian after this weekend.

Suspect she’ll be taking the Woody Allen Innocent show on the road to The Times but we’ll see.

She’s got a few books to write, I guess? I think British Vogue stopped using her because she’s a transphobe (Edward the editor would not want someone like that writing for him).

This would be, genuinely, on balance, a reason to read the Guardian.

Hadley has deleted that tweet

No reasons to ever read this rag beyond sheer fucking boredom.

On balance, I think contributing in some peculiar way to the departure of HF must rank as one of Jez's finest achievements

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/18/opinion-writing-has-changed-a-lot-since-i-started-out-its-time-for-something-new

how wonderful it would be to live in that cloud of sweet obliviousness

hah come back and talk about your legacy when you've managed to write a piece that still gets memed to death 20 years later like Milne's "They can’t see why they are hated" does.

well it turns out long Corbynism is good

It looks like she isn’t even leaving, it’s just the last column for Weekend, which is closing.

But column-writing was seen as something of a private members’ club: elitist, dusty and distant.

This was my best bit, she is v funny tbfttl

so it's only really "The End" for the 180 Weekend staff the Guardian have laid off

The Guardian: "why do we expect such a conformity of opinion?"

Also The Guardian: *deletes interviews that do not conform* pic.twitter.com/BD4CXtMksl

— Adam Smith (@adamndsmith) September 18, 2021

this is a very good point

I loved the way they closed the comments so that quite fortuitously this one remains on top (after the eulogising Guardian Picks):

Dear Hadley,

It has been marvellous to see your journalism evolve. You are a wonderful writer and I have treasured your fearlessness and independent-mindedness in confronting and examining questions others have fought shy of. I will be looking forward to reading more of your interviews and features on film, literature and culture, wherever they are published. Go well.

"Go well"? Is that a thing people say?

it sounds like Dungeons & Dragons speak.

ppl do say it yes, i have used it in obits (of ppl who actually died that i was fond of)

when do i get my guardian column

what do you say in obits when you're not fond of ppl?

Milne has a lot to answer for.

This is my favourite lol moment:

"None of this is why I’m stopping the column. It’s just time."

"RIP: they didn't know why they were hated"

when do i get my guardian column

― mark s, Saturday, 18 September 2021 bookmarkflaglink

If you want one I suggest you study the masters

https://www.theguardian.com/profile/adrian-chiles

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Seems a bit harsh, especially if they saw themselves more as ".. wide circle of friends, colourful array of lovers, and lived an extraordinarily full life."

tbf that's why they were hated

would like to live in a country where a centre left paper might be fair minded enough to include the resignation of 2 members of staff over LGBT+ issues, her publicly identifying one of them, union reaction to this, trans members leaving party or even her comments this morning https://t.co/9AkeG0USUn

— a rare photo of sean connery signed by roger moore (@steamedhamms) September 20, 2021

tv guide has gone tabloid format, which is much less handy to have open beside you on the sofa 8(

Missed the separate Review section today. That said, like to read Alys Fowler and Rachel Roddy on a Saturday ... and they are both still there.

wow

journo solidarity is so powerful pic.twitter.com/tQsRpz5QuV

— josh (@lobstereo) September 28, 2021

They're worse than policemen and doctors when it comes to protecting their own at all costs.

also his "journalism" was mostly making shit up, right?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/29/how-safe-is-the-cinema-experts-weigh-in-on-risks-as-no-time-to-die-opens

This was so feebly reported it annoyed me beyond any need

https://i.imgur.com/D4Tudj3.png

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/03/which-bit-of-women-need-safe-places-dont-men-understand

From the sub-heading on down this was only going to end up in one place, that place being transphobic bullshit. And lo! - there it is.

haha the sunday revive of this thread is so reliable. god i hate the guardian/observer.

hmmm i wonder whether trans people or the kind of men who ally themselves with terfs are the bigger threat to safe spaces?