Radiohead - Kid A / Amnesiac Poll

i ordered the big book/vinyl thing because I'm a sucker

Not including the original b-sides in that strikes me as misstep.

that's for the 40th anniversary. finally, then it will all be available in one deluxe package

I can't see any difference in track listings between the various formats.

I was glad of that, I was half expecting some dick move, like putting a collage of unreleased music on a cassette.

(I might not be fully paying attention, mind).

I agree with Maresn3st. Never really helped with any of the Radiohead artwork

The only format that has b-sides is the cassette version. It's missing half of them, though.

It's the only one that describes having b-sides but aren't all the actual track listings the same?

it has the 3 LP/CDs of the others on a cassette side each... and then oddly not all of the Amnesiac b-sides although they could've fit them all.

His There Will Be No Quiet book is very good.

Reminded me to pick this up. I'll wait and see on this new stuff!

the photo of the cassette version doesn't include any of the old b-sides

https://store-us.kida-mnesia.com/products/kid-amnesiette-special-edition-cassette-book-kaa

it kind of looks like it, because with the formatting it says

FOG
(AGAIN AGAIN VERSION)

but that's just "Fog (again again version)" the same as on the other formats

Look way down bottom right of the cassette box back, bro

sorry to belabor it, but i don't see any of the old b-sides? i see versions of them, remixes or other versions or whatever, but none of the originals

that's based on clicking the "buy" button on https://kida-mnesia.com/ and zooming in on the tracklists in the photos

Look way down bottom right of the cassette box back, bro

― maf you one two (maffew12),

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well, there's always the 40th anniversary box

The new single is nice. Also the tweet above I think is "Untitled V1" since the runtime matches the iTunes listing. So I guess those are just little blendy bits

LMAO @ that cassette being $90...but I want it :[

only 5000 cassettes so you could definitely hoard a few and resell in a couple of years.

looks like the most collectible piece out of all of these. It's also the one with the most unique artwork. Wish they would have attempted something similar for the vinyl and cd versions.

definitely a shame they didn't include the amnesiac b-sides with how strong those are (other than some on the cassette) but a full disc of outtakes should be nice. the new outtakes disc is around 35 minutes long, and the b-sides are 33 minutes total, so they could have fit them on the cd at least

"if you say the word" is exactly like you'd expect an outtake from these sessions to sound really, the same really distinctive sound but the song just isn't quite as strong as most of the released material. i'd probably take it over a few tracks on amnesiac though

This is what I wanted from the vinyl version:

https://m.imgur.com/a/a3vzPic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNUzGew1EN4

lol this is such a late 90s/early 00s move

wait wut is that fake? xp

it's a fan mock-up yeah

Yeah, sorry I should have specified. I made that mockup based on the cassette design.

Curious to hear what the arrangement of Follow Me Around might sound like.

Still waiting for Kid A on a 12 inch vinyl with half of the record on side A and the other half on side B.

I suppose the reissue will somewhat fulfill this.

Moka your version is soooooo good!

xp It is really weird how these short albums have only been double 10" or 12" so far and this is the first time they're going on one slab each (would normally be the opposite for these deluxe things?). What can even explain that? They couldn't do whatever fancy half speed cut before?

Also they're not remastered (OK Computer was) but that's whatever.

Really nice interpretation, Moka.

From the pics, the actual version looks a bit lazy.

Thank you! It’s pretty much a reinterpretation of the cassette version. Don’t understand why they didn’t try to make them match, because I really like the design for the cassette and it’s not the most difficult design to recreate in the vinyl and cd versions. I spend 30 mins at most copying the style and they had at least a full year to really put some extra effort into it.

It’s particularly head-scratching to me considering how well done OKNOTOK was presented and sold. With that one it felt like that was truly the “definitive” OKC version. You got a tape with hours of content, a diary, a hardbook, a sketchbook, 4 new songs and all the b-sides from the era. And the whole original album was remastered. Also a unique album design meant to emulate a blackbox I think?

This one doesn’t feel like a definitive collection of what could have been. Nothing has been remastered (not necessarily a bad thing), you don’t get the b-sides, you don’t get any sort of tape with experiments and demos - and there’s probably hours of those that could have been interesting to hear -, the album cover looks like it was arranged in 10 minutes. If you want books of additional content you have to pay for them…. I mean, yeah I was expecting something way better considering how important this era is in their discography and the amount of content they could have put out.

If you ask my wallet, though, I suck at voting with it.

Many xps to ufo: that makes it feel all the more appropriate! It's like blips 2.0

I've not really thought through the ethics of this but the books are on sale at hive.co.uk (and presumably other places) at discounted prices.

I'm possibly being unfair but I figure that I'd like the local book shop to get a cut, even if this is at expense of Thom.

I suppose if I were being properly decent, I'd order the books direct from the local book shop but hey ... Hive will do.

They're listed on a Canadian bookstore site too, with a November 30 release date. I don't think there's anything limited about the books.

I thought the revive was about the new video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnhKaCjCIqM

felt that too much to talk about

new video does a good job of approximating what the video would have been like back then

great video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrxWiU_v9Qs

a little disappointed that there's not some more complete arrangement they just weren't happy with at the time, just a demo of the same acoustic version with a weird vocal effect added

cool video

the pulk/pull version of "true love waits" on this is wonderful, it's still not quite there but my favourite of the many many arrangements we've heard them try

the "like spinning plates" version has early lyrics & splits the difference between the final studio version & the live piano version but is less compelling than both, just a curiosity

"fog (again again)" is interesting, not as good as the other two versions but definitely worth hearing

& it's hard to understand how "if you say the word" didn't get released at the time

but pretty diminishing returns beyond these

Does this mean that the origin of pulk/pull was a failed 'true love waits' experiment?

Listening to these alternate versions of "pulk/pull" and "Like Spinning Plates" it makes me think I'd probably like Amnesiac as much as I like Kid A - you'll never convince me it isn't a collection of b-sides, as good as some of its songs might be - if they had spent more time refining these sort of experiments and simmering the album in general.

This version of Like Spinning Plates in particular sounds like it could have been a great number... specially towards the end when that 'organ/choral' synth comes on I can easily imagine it would have soared as one of the best songs of the sessions with some of those really cool string arrangements Johnny was doing elsewhere. It's still not there though, I agree with ufo that it is somehow not as compelling as the live nor the studio version... for me the electronic texture is a bit distracting and doesn't really fit in this piano version. However the potential is definitely there and they were close to nailing something better than what we got in the end.

Also this version of Fog when paired with something like Worrywort makes me think there was the possibility of a way lighter album somewhere. It sounds like indietronica from the early 00's... something from idk... the Morr label. It could even be the demo of a Coldplay song tbh. The style doesn't fit at all with the rest of Amnesiac or Kid A, as much as I love Worrywort it's kind of a good thing they didn't really pursue this style.

"How to dissapear into strings" is great imo. I know it's just the isolated strings from the studio version but it makes you really appreciate the beauty how they're arranged.

Does this mean that the origin of pulk/pull was a failed 'true love waits' experiment?

yeah that's been known for a while, i think they talked about it in an interview at the time, & people noted the direct connection to some of the ok computer sessions "true love waits" attempts that came out more recently.

the "how to disappear" strings are indeed wonderful to hear isolated like that

amnesiac definitely does have the leftovers collection feeling with its chaotic sequencing & some pretty big quality disparities - some of it is fantastic but a lot is also very forgettable.

might have worked better if they'd leaned into that and included all the b-sides from the era & sequencing it as a sprawling double album? or even there are alternate single disc sequences that i'd enjoy much more too