Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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I know it has almost certainly been here many times before, probably I've posted it myself, but continue to be disappointed at how many people feel it is acceptable to ever say/write "monetize"

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 09:29 (two years ago) link

what would you say?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 09:32 (two years ago) link

I would say "stop treating your art like it's a MLM scheme"

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 09:36 (two years ago) link

A free Spotify account is 'art'?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:07 (two years ago) link

“All free Spotify accounts are quite useless” – Oscar Wilde

Alba, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:13 (two years ago) link

Sorry, not following you, this is something I come across all the time in podcasting, imagine it is the same for any "creatives"

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:13 (two years ago) link

xp

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:13 (two years ago) link

Well it’s used in other contexts too, is the point, I guess. Monetizing users is a phrase endemic in tech business. On art, I suppose it’s an uglier way of the old “making a living out of it”. Biz should try that on for size. How do we make a living out of these free Bumble account holders?

Alba, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:22 (two years ago) link

Right. Where I come across the word 'monetize' it's in the context of getting money out of subscribers who have signed up to some sort of free tier. The accepted business model for basically all of media publishing is to grow your subscriber base as big as you can and then figure out how to get money out of them. You don't really 'monetize' art - you sell it, or rent it, or whatever. You monetize audiences.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:24 (two years ago) link

I mean, this is all also bad, this is why every app pretends to be free then bombards you with ads which you "accidentally" click on. And of course I know that this is the fault of capitalism and lack of regulation rather than individuals, but it would just be better if people were less gung ho about going along with it.

fc_TEFH28mo (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 10:34 (two years ago) link

"creatives" is way way way way worse than "monetize" -- though in the context of art, it makes me think ... "make it like monet" which then leads me to the relations between impressionism / modernism and contemporary capitalism, as opposed to industrial capitalism, and then I think of how many posters and totebags exist and have existed with pictures of Monet's artwork ... whereas "creatives" makes me just feel like vomiting.

sarahell, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

Yeah, it's really unfortunate when people refer to themselves as 'creatives'... sir, you've been co-opted by yourself

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link

Yeah, it's really unfortunate when people refer to themselves as 'creatives'... sir, you've been co-opted by yourself

― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, September 7, 2021 12:10 PM (one minute ago)

yeahhhhhhhhh though some of them aren't very creative, or at least, they make me want to be as un-creative as possible if being creative means being like them

sarahell, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link

I always think of that one scene in Hollywood Shuffle.

What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 19:37 (two years ago) link

lay off the creatives, they're just trying to generate some content

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link

When people describe themselves as "creatives," it makes me think they know nothing about being creative.

Kind regards, Anus (the table is the table), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link

i mean... literally "creative" is my job title so i feel very seen here

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link

"Kieth"

Sam Weller, Friday, 10 September 2021 07:42 (two years ago) link

sorry, this is "words, usages and phrases..."
think you're looking for "people..."

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 September 2021 07:49 (two years ago) link

When Youtubers say 'let's get into it...'

Maresn3st, Friday, 10 September 2021 12:18 (two years ago) link

“Smash that like button”

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 10 September 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link

that one annoys me too because I struggle with imagining it done literally -- maybe it's just me, but I realize a lot of these terms in this thread that annoy me, the reason they annoy me has to do with the relationship between the term and their literal referents, and to some extent the connotations of the referents.

sarahell, Friday, 10 September 2021 15:40 (two years ago) link

if you smash it, the button will be broken, there is no correlation with how vigorously you press the button with how subscribed you are.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 September 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link

exactly! why would you want people to break the like button? Then they would be unable to give you future likes? And then your influence would take a nose-dive

sarahell, Friday, 10 September 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

also sounds uncomfortably like a certain kind of man saying "I'd smash that" - now there is a truly disgusting phrase.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 September 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link

I blame Smashmouth

Alba, Friday, 10 September 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link

hey now!

sarahell, Friday, 10 September 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

lol

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 11 September 2021 08:46 (two years ago) link

getting a bit annoyed with self-proclaimed leftists adopting Xtian/GOP moralist words like "good" and "evil" to describe people and ideas.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 September 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link

Don't know if this has been covered yet, but influencer and influencer-mimicking ads that begin with a person saying, "Hey guys..."

Shut the fuck up.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 13 September 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link

lol otm

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 September 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link

"wellness" and "mindfulness"

Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 16 September 2021 13:10 (two years ago) link

is there a specific context that is the most annoying, or just in general? ... I agree btw, especially when you add "healing"

sarahell, Thursday, 16 September 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

Also 'detox', unless it's in the context of recovering heroin addicts.

john landis as man being smashed into window (uncredited) (Matt #2), Thursday, 16 September 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

mindfulness is a perfectly simple and useful term that can be understood by nearly everyone without much effort and once it is understood it doesn't need to be talked about very much, if at all. it just means 'paying careful attention and not getting distracted by stray thoughts or shiny objects'.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Friday, 17 September 2021 04:45 (two years ago) link

I work in a community mental health agency and both words (though not "healing") get used many times a day. I understand "mindfulness" to be a very specific concept - more or less what Aimless wrote, but specifically relevant in contrast to the long Western tradition of mental health being intellectualized and cognitive, removed from the physical experience a person is having in the moment. It does have a distinct meaning that explains the use of the word. Not to justify the bazillion apps and initiatives that try to capitalize on it's trendiness. "Wellness" may not be the best term for this, but it also gets used somewhat specifically to refer to those activities that enable a person to live a healthy lifestyle but that are not especially medical, clinical, or therapeutic. So the weight loss support groups and things like that that are run by our center are part of the Wellness Program. It is admittedly a mushier category and some things they have included like painting and board game groups make it mushier. Though I fully believe having hobbies that don't explicitly make you less well is a good thing that many people in this country seem to have a hard time generating.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 17 September 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link

Beware the wellness industrial complex

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 September 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

kinda

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 17 September 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link

one of the things that has probably become trite at this point, is corporate culture using "wellness" as a way of signaling that they care about their employees, yet conversations and practices about "wellness" don't include things like paying living wages, allowing for flexible schedules, and getting rid of workplace dynamics that foster misogyny, racism, etc.

sarahell, Saturday, 18 September 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link

Going WAY back to Giclee, which I found when searching for inkjet as it's something I'm dipping my toes into, just wanted to clarify a few things. Yes, the term is totally annoying and pretentious. Originally it meant "fancy inkjet" to try to differentiate but more often than not people are moving on from the phrase. Tom Ashe, who's book Color Management & Quality Output, which is the most up-to-date and well written book on the subject, has a whole chapter about this, including various options, and I think they mostly settle on "Archival Pigment Print".

Fact is, all of this printing is technically the same technology as the shitty clogged inkjet printer on your desktop. So the terminology exists to just point out various factors, half of which ideally imply the skill that goes into it, and half of which imply issues regarding the technology and paper choice, i.e. using the best quality inks and papers free of brightening chemicals. In other words, you printing some art out on your desktop canon or epson is just an "inkjet" print, printing the same art out on a 11/12 color inkjet with the best quality inks onto archival quality paper that in combination will last 100+ years, is "archival pigment printing". I've just been using the term "museum quality" when talking to people.

Also many of the cheaper printers use Dye based ink, which ironically has a larger color gamut, but is prone to fading, while the most high-end machines use pigment based ink, which isn't.

dan selzer, Thursday, 23 September 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link

I bought some clothes online and now my timeline is being spammed with ads for things phrased like "The Morning Trouser", "The Slimline Jean" etc. This construction probably felt classy at first but is now so proliferate it reeks of posturing

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 23 September 2021 15:12 (two years ago) link

Sounds like you're being served your jeans on a silver platter by a French waiter; "Monsieur, ze twill overshirt, s'il vous plait"

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 23 September 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link

For some reason the singular trouser, pant, jean, chino rankles more than the highfalutin catalogese. No one says these things, in American English anyway:

That's a nice trouser you're wearing today.

Wait a sec, I'm not wearing my pant.

Where did you buy that jean?

Crap, I've spilled red wine on my favorite no-iron chino.

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 September 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link

An instagram the other day was boasting about impeccable “shirting”

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 23 September 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link

In the teal colorway?

mahb, Thursday, 23 September 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link

That's a ruddy good trousering you have going on there

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 24 September 2021 23:53 (two years ago) link

Thought of one the other day: the use of the word "journey" and its invasion into the most mundane aspects of marketing and everyday life. Like, sorry, switching a shampoo is not part of a "hair journey," nor do I have "hair goals." Whoever the fuck decided this language was a good idea is a monster.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 27 September 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link

Yep

"Piece" is the new one around here

Everything is the x "piece" now

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 27 September 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link

xxp - oh totally! It's also kinda insidious from a critical theory / anti-capitalist philosophy perspective. In multiple ways, actually. You have the substitution of actual liberation and self-determination with consumer products that do little to change the structural factors which would impel you to go "on a journey" ... also the extension of the professional to the personal, in the sense that one must have goals for everything.

Eventually there will be some "radical" personal care product brand that will use phrases like "hair derive" and the "psychogeography of skin care" ... and it will be kinda LOL but mostly sad

sarahell, Monday, 27 September 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

oh, Aesop has already used Baudrillard in their ad copy

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 27 September 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link


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