oh shit, was their people getting mad about that beyond this thread? jeez!
― Karl Malone, Monday, 6 September 2021 21:10 (two years ago) link
i thought that was fun
lets ignore that the "outrage" around the article was basically ginned up by teenage kanye stans saying stuff like 'this is what journalism is like now')
gamergate never ended
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link
I'm all for irreverent journalism but that doesn't change my baseline desire to put every article about Kanye post-2013 on a pile and light a match
― a gentle push against my Wonder Bread face (DJP), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link
But as “Ode to Billie Joe” became a global phenomenon, the song that will inevitably appear in every headline of Gentry’s eventual obituaries, that image hid more than it revealed.
Gentry is alive today, though it seems relevant to say that few people know where.
― tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Sunday, 12 September 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link
The Search for Bobbie Gentry
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 12 September 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link
I know where Syd Barrett lives
― the adventures of pavlo and schrödis (geoffreyess), Sunday, 12 September 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link
Olivia Rodrigo ran through a punk-rock-prom performance of “Good 4 U,” a song we’ve all heard roughly three billion times by now. It was fun enough, but wouldn’t it have been a lot more exciting if, in the middle of the song, Paramore’s Hayley Williams—who was recently awarded a credit on the song because of its resemblance to her band’s hit “Misery Business”—came out of nowhere, and they did a one-time-only duet, uniting generations of pop-punk angst?!
no.
― tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Monday, 13 September 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link
“wouldn’t it have been a lot more exciting if, in the middle of the song, Paramore’s Hayley Williams”https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fe/B.o.B_-_Airplanes.jpg/220px-B.o.B_-_Airplanes.jpg
― the 45-year-old gaz coomber (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 00:19 (two years ago) link
If you're Brad Nelson maybe.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 01:59 (two years ago) link
wouldn’t it have been a lot more exciting if, in the middle of the song, ILX's Brad Nelson came out of nowhere, and they did a one-time-only duet, uniting generations of pop-punk angst?!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 02:08 (two years ago) link
Alfred, yes!
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link
Weirdly exhaustive piece on some marginal producer dude suing three different ppl: https://pitchfork.com/news/phoebe-bridgers-sued-for-defamation/Even though one of them is Phoebe Bridgers, why publish this?
― juristic person (morrisp), Thursday, 30 September 2021 05:42 (two years ago) link
there must be 5-15 articles every day
― typo hell #7: 3-5 of those thinking of want to say (Karl Malone), Thursday, 30 September 2021 05:44 (two years ago) link
that's the amount of news that happens every day
and our job is to report out 2-4 of those per day. and if you keep doing 6 per day, well. well. you might just get to scale back to 3 per day after that, but longer and better articles
― typo hell #7: 3-5 of those thinking of want to say (Karl Malone), Thursday, 30 September 2021 05:45 (two years ago) link
i like to pretend you're the real Karl Malone posting to ILM
― alpine static, Thursday, 30 September 2021 06:08 (two years ago) link
me too
god, me too
― typo hell #7: 3-5 of those thinking of want to say (Karl Malone), Thursday, 30 September 2021 06:16 (two years ago) link
it's being pretty widely covered elsewhere too, solely because phoebe bridgers is involved. it's definitely weird it's gotten so much attention but i guess everywhere just wants some of the clicks as always
― ufo, Thursday, 30 September 2021 06:18 (two years ago) link
"here's a list of 200 artist we've given good reviews!"
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 October 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link
i like Rosalia as much as the next person but i'm a bit surprised at her inclusion - she put out one album a few years ago (that got BNM, i know) and a few singles since to diminishing returns (imo) and that warrants inclusion? idk
― Murgatroid, Monday, 4 October 2021 16:02 (two years ago) link
It's so fucking funny that they're basically memory-holing the Stosuy/285 Kent era (Perfect Pussy, SunnO))), Swans, Iceage, Grouper, etc) to assert "No, we're more about Ariana Grande these days"
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 4 October 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
Like if your big mission statement is a list of respectable '00s indie rock ofays + the world's biggest pop and rap stars, idk what to tell you.
Like in 2021 Pitchfork wants to be Rolling Stone and Rolling Stone wants to be Pitchfork
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxPsXPCR5MU
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 4 October 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link
grouper is on the list
swans probably too controversial a pick after the rape allegations, i think they'd very likely be there if it weren't for that
― ufo, Monday, 4 October 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
To kick off our 25th anniversary retrospective
Oh man
― jmm, Monday, 4 October 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link
but yes this is about as uninteresting as a list can be
― ufo, Monday, 4 October 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link
I haven't clicked over to the Pfork thing, but (fwiw) she's put out two albums, and (yes) various singles/collabs, some of which were a pretty big deal... I get why they would include her in a list of 200 acts, she's very Zeitgeist-y and feels like a major current artist.
― juristic person (morrisp), Monday, 4 October 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link
sorry shoulda mentioned one album that they reviewed, i'm aware of the album before that
― Murgatroid, Monday, 4 October 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link
but lol yes apparently major current artist = one of the most important artists of Pitchfork's last 25 years
which goes back to what Whiney said
― Murgatroid, Monday, 4 October 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link
Well they can't all be The Strokes
― juristic person (morrisp), Monday, 4 October 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link
i feel like the late 90s are relatively underrepresented? & 00s indie obviously way overrepresented, like i like the new pornographers and all but were they ever really an 'important' or 'influential' band?
― ufo, Monday, 4 October 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link
important to pitchfork
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 October 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
And here's to the next 25! Or maybe 5 more years tops?
― Position Position, Monday, 4 October 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link
It's also funny that Ryan S. built this entire empire from nothing, led it from basement to office to New York to Conde Nast over like 20 years, sold it, and the new staff is just dedicated to doing backboard breaking dunks on how he ran it
In the past few years, we’ve purposefully expanded the range of music we cover, reexamined how we listen to music as a staff to allow more voices to be heard, and widened our contributor pool. We canceled Pitchfork Music Festival in Chicago due to the coronavirus in 2020, and then saw it sell out upon its return last month—a sign that a genre-spanning, inclusive lineup (including three female headliners for the first time in our history) is what music fans actually want.
We canceled Pitchfork Music Festival in Chicago due to the coronavirus in 2020, and then saw it sell out upon its return last month—a sign that a genre-spanning, inclusive lineup (including three female headliners for the first time in our history) is what music fans actually want.
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 4 October 2021 16:53 (two years ago) link
this makes it especially boring but also very revisionist at times, worst of both worlds, like they never loved an erykah badu album on release lol so how important is she really to pitchfork's history?
modest mouse also a particularly notable absence by that standard
― ufo, Monday, 4 October 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
For years, Vijay Iyer was Pitchfork's stand-in for jazz as a whole: They reviewed NINE of his albums between 2004 and this year, and he doesn't make their top 200 artists list? Harsh.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 4 October 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link
It's also funny that Ryan S. built this entire empire from nothing, led it from basement to office to New York to Conde Nast over like 20 years, sold it,
i didn't read the rest, but as rare and difficult as this is for people who start with no money to do, it's also so shitty. the trajectory is shitty, i mean. just reading that alone, it's like yeah, he took something that was real and small and blew it up into a conde nast thing - dunk on him for that
― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 October 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link
& i don't think you can make a case at all that taylor swift has much to do with their history when they ignored her for most of her career
― ufo, Monday, 4 October 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link
is anyone happy that the first starbucks ended up growing into what it is today? if i were a starbucks barista writing a 25th anniversary rememberance, i'd write (on the coffee cup in sharpie) "i bet that early time when it was just jimmy starbucks working the counter at the only starbucks in the country, spreading by word of mouth, was a pretty cool time"
― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 October 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link
the american dream is always to take something small, then expand and capitalize on the initial perception of "real, not a corporation) to the logical limit until it no longer resembles what it was, then sell it to a corporation
― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 October 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link
So music fans prefer an inclusive line-up to catching coronavirus? Seems odd, but okay!
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
xxxxxxps, i prob play that shaggs song in my head four times a day
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link
Congrats to brad for the Taylor Swift review excerpt in this feature...
― juristic person (morrisp), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link
(now that I've skimmed thru the list, I think it's v weirdly hierarchical the way they separated it into true kult Top 50 plus 150 "nearly-as-important acts")
― juristic person (morrisp), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link
I just find it odd that title of the article is "200 Most Important Artists of Pitchfork’s First 25 Years" while the browser heading says "200 Most Influential". I feel like those are two different things.
― MarkoP, Monday, 4 October 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link
while we're at it, can i throw this in here?
should the MVP go toward musicians who are in very successful acts that make "the playoffs"? or can you be a MVP as the leader of a relatively unknown act?
― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link
And not a single mention of The Dismemberment Plan. Got to talk about Puff Daddy instead.
― MarkoP, Monday, 4 October 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link
Asterisks within html italicized text = bold? Formatting. I give up.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link
click "Show Formatting Help", just below 'submit post" button
― typo hell #10: i didn't think any of them really off badly (Karl Malone), Monday, 4 October 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link
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