PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

Yeah, it's still fairly early in the generation for there to be any must-have exclusives. I want to try because I skipped the last console generation entirely and Sony seems to have at least the one generation of backward compatibility working properly, and because Criterion have started releasing 4k titles (their move to blu-ray was what got me aboard the PS3 however many years ago).

Basically when and if i am economically secure enough where this doesn't feel like a waste AND when it's easy to find AND when i know I'll have enough time to play demon souls, that's when i'm getting it. so maybe early 23 or later.

yeah, it's on track for either a skipped generation or a very late-in-the-lifecycle for the cheap games kind of thing for me.

Which might make sense now that the current gen is trying to set $70 as the standard retail price for AAA games.

To answer the revive, there are a handful of Twitter accounts that keep track of what retailers are getting new stock and at what time it goes up online. I forget which ones I was following, if you’re interested you can find info on Reddit with some Googling.

It’s still a pain in the ass to get one, you’re up against everyone else + bots, but you can luck out. Make sure you have an account set up with whatever retailer you’re trying to score one from and be logged into it of course. I snagged one after like a week or two of trying but I know people who have been trying off and on for months.

I did hear that people were having luck signing up for whatever GameStop’s “membership” thing is because apparently they set aside a certain amount of stock to give members first dibs. Weeds out a lot of the bot nonsense.

i got really lucky and got the PS5 but i'd also skipped PS4 so i'm just using it as a catch-up for now

Yeah, I still don't see the incentive to put any real effort into tracking down one of these boxes quite yet.

Well, I managed to get one. Insert Thanos "what did it cost" meme here; answer: just about the entirety of my months-late tax refund ($800 after tax, since only bundles were available- a disc model, the director's cut of Ghost of Tsushima, an NBA game I am already trying to flip on Amazon, a year of PS Plus, and a $50 Gamestop gift card I combined with points to get Deathloop since my poor PC can't handle it).

If this is anyone else's white whale, I'll pass along the recommendation that worked for me: pony up the $15 for a Gamestop Pro Rewards membership. They've restocked more often than other major retailers in recent months, and you'll get advance notice of inventory drops by email (typically a couple of hours beforehand), though you'll still have to fight for it while their site grinds to a halt. I was on mobile, which made it more difficult than it had to be, but I wasn't able to successfully load the checkout page before the first wave sold out. Kept refreshing the page, and about 15 minutes later, more inventory was added and I was able to complete the process.

So yeah, Deathloop and Tsushima aside, I mostly have this so I can finally experience all the hottest games of 2016- Nier Automata and the Last of Us part 1 remaster are already sitting on my shelf, and once the GameStop ProGamer GameRewards RewardPoints from the console purchase are credited to my account I should be able to cover most of Persona 5 Royal.

At least you spent that 800 on actual stuff... that's about what all the resellers are trying to sell theirs for on clist, and that's just for the machine

I got excited the other day after getting into a PSN queue based on one of those twitter accounts, but no dice.

Lucky bastard! Tried to get that Gamestop drop yesterday and failed miserably

The $5 coupon every month easily makes that GameStop Pro Rewards membership worth it btw, you can use it on PSN/eShop currency cards as well

I know it's Dunkey, but if this is at all indicative of the P5's power and potential, then I guess I'm glad there's a shortage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p24cqO7rP8o

Are you sure that isn't the PC version?

I bet it is.

it does not look fun

i thought people loved arkane games

reviews seem generally positive? but i can wait a long time. never even got around to Dishonored

dark messiah of might and magic was fun, dishonored suffers from being designed around a controller imo, felt like i was constantly bringing up one of 7 different wheel menus

dark messiah had a sweet kick similar to the dunkey vid

First person games seem so janky and unappealing this days. Third person or 2D only for me, please.

i've never really been able to to 1st person. even games that otherwise i think i'd really love. i.e. Alien and Dishonored

It's a real evolutionary blind alley for the medium

its just a poor fit for console games, mouselook is too important to making it work

I played a bunch of Doom for the Switch, which has gyro controls, and it wasn't too bad. I bought the game again on sale for the PS4 (which lacks gyro) and it was much tougher on any setting beyond the easy ones that nerf it down to a glorified choose your own adventure. But of course people appear adept at doing all sorts of shit with standard controllers.

I prefer kebab controls

I think there's something about the 'you are IN his EYES' thing, where you see the hand sticking up from the bottom right hand corner holding a gun or an axe or whatever that has unappealing parallels with gonzo porn? Something deep and unexamined going on in my brain with this one lads

better to have it stick straight out from the bottom center of the screen og wolfenstein style so theres
no confusion

Dark Souls 3 looks insane in 60fps. Also I swear it plays differently too, I've gotten used to compensating for latency and certain timings that are a little looser in 30fps (online anyway), and need to adjust.

the ten most played ps5 games, after 1 year

Fortnite
Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War
FIFA 21
NBA 2K21
Assassin’s Creed Valhalla
Destiny 2
MLB The Show 21
Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales
Demon’s Souls
NBA 2K22

https://blog.playstation.com/2021/11/12/playstation-5-turns-one-today/

(this is total hours played, not total number of players/purchases)

hours played is gonna strongly select for multiplayer games

yep, i know, i just thought i'd share

sports games and call of duty are always the biggest system sellers early, has been the case the past 2 gens too

Finally was able to order a system from Playstation Direct. Still wondering if I really bought it and it wasn't some kind of scam.

Finally tried the PS5 controller and I think I hate it. My hands are probably on the small side, but it just feels so heavy and unbalanced, like it wants to tip forward. I normally try not to curl my pinky and ring fingers around the handles (so that I don't grip too hard and mess up my hands/wrists), but that's a lot harder to do on this one. Going back to the PS4 controller, it feels so light and comfortable by comparison.

So lame that you can't use any other controller with PS5-version games.

I felt like the handles were too big too, but I'm slowly getting adjusted to it. It is hard not to do the finger curl you mention

ps4 controllers work on the ps5 though, yes?
i think elden ring has sold me on buying one of these fucking things asap

they work only on PS4 games played on the system, not PS5 games

ah. well that's not encouraging. the new controller is notably bigger is what i'm hearing here?

the appeal is just for loading tbh. the 20 second lag after death and minute to start elements of those games always bugs the shit out of me.

I'd say it's mostly still a Dualshock 4 but the touchpad area, handles and triggers are enlarged, theoretically because of the new haptic feedback features.
The build quality is REALLY nice imo (it better be, considering how much they cost - $75!)

I think games can be programmed to make exceptions, at least I vaguely heard about Guilty Gear Strive having support for PS4 fightsticks. but i gather most PS5 native titles won't bother to

SSD loading seems muuuuuuuch better than the traditional HD from what i can tell so far, but i haven't made direct comparisons with old PS4 titles, since i'll install the PS5 version if available

I do love the general interface and store speed improvements. Still need to buy a big external HD to transfer my PS4 games to, since the PS5 drive is kinda small at 825GB

PS5 controller is good, although I’ve been using it on PC so the adaptive trigger support isn’t there. The theory is that some of the cross-platform games (next Horizon one) might support that on PC

it's a little interesting in NBA 2K22, different levels of feedback/resistance depending on the court situation

hopefully developers actually use the feature but outside of Sony first-party it'll be just like every other controller gimmick left out on the highway to rot

I also do some weird stuff in Dark Souls games where I use my left pointer finger on the d-pad to change items while running (otherwise, if you move your thumb then you stop moving), that's harder on this controller.

Apparently you can run the PS4 version of Elden Ring on a PS5 and actually get a better frame rate, at a cost of...less grass?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9VPswqixd0

I also do some weird stuff in Dark Souls games where I use my left pointer finger on the d-pad to change items while running (otherwise, if you move your thumb then you stop moving), that's harder on this controller.

That sounds kinda like the claw grip, so it's not that weird! (I tried it a few times but I'm probably too old to adapt to a new way of holding a controller.)

the first time i had a go with the PS5 controller i thought it was a bit chonky but since i've been using it all the time it feels just fine

Oh yeah I guess that is the grip, except I just do it situationally

I think games can be programmed to make exceptions, at least I vaguely heard about Guilty Gear Strive having support for PS4 fightsticks. but i gather most PS5 native titles won't bother to

fightsticks are a special case, officially licensed ps4 sticks will work with ps5 games

the pads do work as you say, ds4 is only for ps4 games

this is the ps5 thread and for people with a 4 the advantages of owning the 5 and getting substantial improvements on games they already own is undeniable but other than that it's hard to recommend it instead of the xbox series x: same price, better hardware, compatible with many games from og xbox and 360 (often with improvements), better pad and gamepass ultimate if you like subscription services

ultimately there's always the wildcard of niche japanese stuff and (with the exception of the 360) xbox consoles always do terribly there but more and more it seems that everything is multiplatform and if anything, the switch is the one to get for that given it's the dominant console in the region

I think the direction from Sony is that they’re going to be putting a lot of their first/second-party games on PC now, possibly with less-delayed releases.

Someone up at corporate finally asked why other companies are making money on merchandise, well-loved franchises, movie and tv deals, etc when Sony has a movie division and they’ve got next to nothing unless you count licensed properties like Spider-Man.

I'm confused by your wording - do you mean Sony Corporate should exploit SCEA and pump out more tie-in games ala Warner Bros. or the reverse which is happening with the Uncharted movie, Last of US TV series, etc?

The latter. I guess given the framing, Spider-Man’s a bad example since it’s just a property they’re basing multiple things on, across media.

The fact they’re developing stuff now is the indicator that they’re trying to finally get this whole train rolling. I think there’s also a Twisted Metal tv show in the works