Ridiculously incorrect beliefs you had about music and musicians while growing up

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Not to mention bands and fans as well.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 September 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link

I definitely avoid using the word 'song' when talking about instrumental music (or even groove-based music that may have vocals and words, but where that isn't the focus). It just sounds kinda dumb and wrong. Track, tune, piece (also pretentious if not in the classical or jazz-related world), composition, thing, etc.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 3 September 2021 18:01 (two years ago) link

But I didn't expect that classic rock stations would eventually stop playing Cream and start playing "Cherry Pie" by Warrant (which our classic rock station did just over an hour ago).xp

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 3 September 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link

Ok, yes, although when you thought that was true it WAS, at that time. Like I thought "oldies" stations would play Vera Lynn forever.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 September 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link

Yes, these were not ridiculous misconceptions! How could we have known…

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Friday, 3 September 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link

I mean, as a kid you can't be faulted for thinking the same things that many music business professionals did at the time.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 September 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link

"track" always for club, IDM etc

Citole Country (bendy), Friday, 3 September 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

i still think of "classic rock" proper as being mostly AOR stuff released between 1964–1981, though i know that differs from what self-described classic rock stations actually play nowadays

aegis philbin (crüt), Friday, 3 September 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link

The first time I heard the term “classic rock” was in 1986 when a new FM station in Chicago (WCKG) called itself that. I was confused, and soon annoyed: why doesn’t “classic rock” mean Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley? Or Sly and the Family Stone and James Brown? Then they’d play something recent-ish by Journey and back-announce it by saying “It doesn’t have to be old to be a classic!”

But I don’t recall anyone saying, if asked, that their favorite music was “classic rock” — it seems like that was strictly a marketing/industry term until relatively recently. It would be like someone declaring “I really love album-oriented rock!” or “I’m super into adult contemporary!” (Which, I dunno, maybe people do/did say that.)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 3 September 2021 19:06 (two years ago) link

I've definitely heard people say their preferred music is adult contemporary.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 3 September 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

i thought oldies/older music sounded bad because people didn't know how to play instruments very well back then, and not because recording mechanisms were more primitive

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 September 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link

There's this charming one from Carl Perkins, not realizing Les Paul had invented tape echo, thinking he must be creating the echo through finger picking, so that's just what Perkins figured out how to do.

https://www.all-about-vinylrecords.com/rockabilly-guitar-licks.html

Citole Country (bendy), Friday, 3 September 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link

But I don’t recall anyone saying, if asked, that their favorite music was “classic rock” — it seems like that was strictly a marketing/industry term until relatively recently. It would be like someone declaring “I really love album-oriented rock!” or “I’m super into adult contemporary!” (Which, I dunno, maybe people do/did say that.)

I definitely went through a phase around ages 12-16 where I would have said "classic rock" was one of my favorite genres of music, as I was just diving headfirst into Zeppelin, the Who, Hendrix, Floyd, etc. at that time and discovering that music for the first time (this would have been in the mid-90s). As a proud young rockist, I thought of my love of classic rock in direct opposition to contemporary pop music. At some point I very explicitly stopped listening to the Top 40 FM station and switched to the classic rock one; I think in the era when people listened to terrestrial radio a lot more, you might've been more likely to define your tastes using the terminology that the commercial stations would feed you. I started coming back around to hip hop around age 16, and I guess pop at some point after that.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 3 September 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link

it’s like the classic rock poll never happened. tears.

brimstead, Friday, 3 September 2021 19:53 (two years ago) link

It's not as if "pop" is really a genre anyway, as much as a radio format. I guess some people will say they listen to "pop" (or "Top 40," maybe in older times)... I've heard "classic rock" too.

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Friday, 3 September 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

link to the classic rock poll? don't think i've ever seen it. however, one of my gateways into ILM/ILX was the thread where Dr Casino listened to all manner of classic rock mainstays that he had not knowingly heard - I think maybe it was a spinoff of that poll

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 3 September 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link

CLASSIC ROCK TRACKS POLL: THE RESULTS

visiting, Friday, 3 September 2021 22:15 (two years ago) link

thx!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 4 September 2021 03:23 (two years ago) link

As a young-un I had assumed that the theme songs for the sit-coms of the day were always sung by the show's stars, i.e. in my mind Cindy Williams sang the "Laverne & Shirley" theme song, while it was John Ritter imploring us to come-a knock on his door at the beginning of "Three's Company." And so on. It made sense to me since the songs were written in the voice of the characters, if not voiced by them.

henry s, Saturday, 4 September 2021 12:53 (two years ago) link

I think I got stuck with a similar notion that it took a while to shake.
I think there are a couple that do exist but yeah did seem to get that feeling elsewhere.
Am I remembering right that Minder is Dennis Waterman?

Stevolende, Saturday, 4 September 2021 13:10 (two years ago) link

The "All in the Family" theme was actually sung by Carroll O'Connor and Jean Stapleton, though, right?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 September 2021 13:16 (two years ago) link

^that is correct, could be that was the reason I felt all other sit-coms followed suit.

henry s, Saturday, 4 September 2021 13:22 (two years ago) link

There's an urban legend that Richard Sanders (Les Nessman) sang the WKRP theme.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 September 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link

Am I remembering right that Minder is Dennis Waterman?

Yes.Hence the (overdone) Little Britain sketch about him insisting on singing (and writing) the theme tune for whatever TV series he appears in.

How does Spock's brain come into this? (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 September 2021 13:29 (two years ago) link

Linda Lavin sang the theme to Alice, so that's another one from that period. Funnily enough the theme to The Jeffersons was sung by a cast member of Good Times, Ja'Net DuBois.

Josefa, Saturday, 4 September 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link

I’m certain there’s a thread specifically for this but when I was a little kid I was certain that Spiral Staircase’s “I Love You More Today..” and Todd’s “Hello It’s Me” and “I Saw the Light” we’re sung by women doing contralto(??)

caddy lac brougham? (will), Saturday, 4 September 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link

Brady Bunch is another one where cast sang theme song

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 4 September 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link

Pretty sure I thought it was Woody singing the Cheers theme when I was a kid

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Saturday, 4 September 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link

^A friend of mine insisted that the vintage photos at the opening of Cheers were “baby pictures“ of the cast members.

Interestingly, prolific sitcom themesmith Alan Thicke neither wrote nor sung the Growing Pains theme (you can hear him on the Diff'rent Strokes theme, tho).

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Saturday, 4 September 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link

Hence the (overdone) Little Britain sketch about him insisting on singing (and writing) the theme tune for whatever TV series he appears in.

Waterman also sang the theme tunes for New Tricks, On the Up, and Stay Lucky. He did not write any of them, though: the arch-feminists and definitely not lazy writers behind Little Britain just saw his wife’s credit for lyrics on the first one and stopped there.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 4 September 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

I was so fascinated by the Cheers intro as a kid

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 September 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link

i wrote a parody when i was like 9 or 10, i don't remember most of it but it started

"staying alive in a bar today takes all the brawn ya got"

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 September 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

I think when I was a kid I thought that every TV theme song had a longer full length version with multiple verses and stuff

brimstead, Saturday, 4 September 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

After I got over the whole "cast members always sing the theme songs" thing, I thought that the Cheers theme was sung by Gilbert O'Sullivan.

henry s, Saturday, 4 September 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

Loool!

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 September 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

Has anyone posted yet one of the biggest of all: that session men were hacks?

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 September 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link

aww, Lavator, i'm touched that the Dr. Casino listening thread (credit to fact checking cuz) was an ilx gateway for you! good to know it had a good impact. it's funny because i was already gonna respond to your post before that about getting into classic rock as a teen in the mid 90s, our stories are similar!

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 4 September 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

Has anyone posted yet one of the biggest of all: that session men were hacks?

I always figured the opposite - that you couldn't just be called in to nail a take of whatever unless you were a real pro who had really put in your time with the method books. The people you could be called in to replace in the studio might be hacks, though.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 September 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

I think I did have the misconception that this was, like, a job that you could apply for and get outside of three or four big cities.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 September 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I thought they were all mid-level hired hands who didn’t give a fuck about what they were playing.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 4 September 2021 20:36 (two years ago) link

I thought the bass on sgt pepper was played by Ringo on a series of tuned bass drums. I was 5.

29 facepalms, Saturday, 4 September 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link

_Has anyone posted yet one of the biggest of all: that session men were hacks?
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I always figured the opposite - that you couldn't just be called in to nail a take of whatever unless you were a real pro who had really put in your time with the method books. The people you could be called in to replace in the studio might be hacks, though.

Of course, what you say is pretty much what I think now, and have thought since I reached my majority and could read books like Sweet Soul Music.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 September 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link

Actually I have a passing acquaintance with one of the NYC Brill Building session men. I sometimes bug him with fanboy questions, and sometimes he even answers. I sometimes feel self-conscious about this but then again, James Redd is gonna James Redd.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 September 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link

That guy is kind of one of my heroes for various reasons. I probably posted about him here before but am a little self-conscious about going into further detail now.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 September 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link

i was disappointed that the 'electric guitar' patch on my keyboard did not sound like a guitar solo

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Saturday, 4 September 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

Ha!

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 September 2021 21:16 (two years ago) link

lol. is any set of standard keyboard sounds more universally disappointing?

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 4 September 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link

I thought the bass on sgt pepper was played by Ringo on a series of tuned bass drums.

This would have been really cool

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 4 September 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link

Still laughing about the sand trombone

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Saturday, 4 September 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link


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