Dead FlowersMoonlight MileSwayCan't You Hear Me KnockingWild HorsesI Got The BluesBrown SugarBitchSister MorphineYou Gotta Move
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 19:57 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N0A2b7nbdMLive Hot Bitch I guess Keith played lead on this track
― calstars, Saturday, 4 September 2021 01:57 (two years ago) link
morphine and wild horses are the two I’d probably toss. like I get why WH is a hit and central to RS “lore” (or whatever—Gram, etc) but yeah, those two I skip past. I’d add I Got the Blues to that list but I saw em do it live in ‘99 and it was pretty cool.
― caddy lac brougham? (will), Saturday, 4 September 2021 02:28 (two years ago) link
Bitch is the most Memphis shit
― caddy lac brougham? (will), Saturday, 4 September 2021 02:29 (two years ago) link
like ‘02 Jack Oblivian doing a session at ‘68 Stax
― caddy lac brougham? (will), Saturday, 4 September 2021 02:39 (two years ago) link
Can't You Hear Me Knocking is one of Charlie's true moments of absolute drumming genius. The one-bar-late change is absolute godhead, and nobody knew when do to it like Charlie knew.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Saturday, 4 September 2021 04:11 (two years ago) link
That Bitch live clip, wow. What a fucking band
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 September 2021 04:52 (two years ago) link
Yeah, makes me not rmde at the "Greatest R&R Band" stuff.
― Taliban! (PBKR), Saturday, 4 September 2021 10:49 (two years ago) link
the only reason to skip wild horses is bc you already know it completely in your bones.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 10 September 2021 04:31 (two years ago) link
it was randomly playing on shuffle the night we drove home after my father in law passed away three years ago & now i cry every time i hear it
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 September 2021 04:33 (two years ago) link
;_;
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 10 September 2021 04:35 (two years ago) link
sorry for bringing you down VG
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 10 September 2021 04:41 (two years ago) link
not at all!honestly, in a weird way, I kind of like that it made me connect with the song differently?
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 September 2021 04:57 (two years ago) link
played at my friend's funeral so same vibes here
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 10 September 2021 06:54 (two years ago) link
the scene in gimme shelter where they are in the studio listening to the playback of wild horses is all-time. song rules and I pity people who have heard it too much to enjoy it.
― Taliban! (PBKR), Friday, 10 September 2021 12:52 (two years ago) link
Wild Horses has associations with death for me as well. It came on the radio right after I found out a friend of mine died in an accident. It tears a hole in me ever since.
― peace, man, Friday, 10 September 2021 14:39 (two years ago) link
They played Nashville last night, so for the 'Internet Vote' song the ballot was limited to Country-style tracks, and interestingly "Dead Flowers" beat "Wild Horses".
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 October 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link
On record, I prefer "Wild Horses," but I think "Dead Flowers" usually is the better one for them to perform live.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 10 October 2021 19:16 (two years ago) link
Lately I have been listening to Sticky Fingers and realizing how little I know it as an actual album. It's such a weird mix of great songs I've heard a million times, great songs I don't hear enough, and songs I never need to hear again that it's very rare for me to just put it on and let it play. But I listened to the first half a while back and now I'm kind of obsessed with the sequencing that puts Wild Horses right after Brown Sugar and Sway and right before Can't You Hear Me Knocking.
Like, you start out with two songs that are intentionally noisy and opaque and messy; Jagger slurring his lines on Brown Sugar, howling on Sway; there's that sense that you often get with Stones songs of the signal just barely making it through the noise. Sway, in particular, feels like it's very much about that, just this scream of frustration at the messiness of life & the persistence of shit coming down on you that you have to care about.
Set against that, what I notice most about "Wild Horses" is how clear it is, and how careful. Each moment in the song, whether it's the musical accompaniment or a line of verse, has a little island of quiet around it, as if Jagger is waiting to make sure you've got the message before he goes on. There's a feeling of handling something fragile, a feeling of going line by line through a compact between two people, a feeling of emotion held in check - even in the final verse, every word is clear and deliberate. It all adds up to a sense - and I can't believe I'm saying this of Jagger, but it's what I get from the song - of "this isn't about me."
And then you get to "Can't You Hear Me Knocking," and the noise closes in again. And the more I listen to the songs in that order, the more striking the sheer amount of silence in "Wild Horses" seems. Stones songs of this era often seem to me, like I said, to be the signal trying to make it through the noise. And I love that about them. But "Wild Horses," in this sequence, comes off to me as something different: Jagger holding off the noise for just long enough to say something he needs to say.
― Lily Dale, Sunday, 22 January 2023 03:37 (one year ago) link
Do you hear the same "quiet" in "Moonlight Mile"? Or "Sister Morphine" for that matter?
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 22 January 2023 19:25 (one year ago) link
Now I kinda want to switch the track listing around. I think it might work better this way:
SIDE A1. Brown Sugar2. Sway3. Wild Horses4. Bitch5. I Got The Blues6. You Gotta Move
SIDE B7. Can't You Hear Me Knocking8. Sister Morphine9. Dead Flowers10. Moonlight Mile
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 22 January 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
“Knocking” is barely a song and has terrible production
― calstars, Sunday, 22 January 2023 20:51 (one year ago) link
the what?
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 22 January 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link
the hell you say
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 January 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link
Lily Dale otm.And the production throughout is by far the clearest and most vivid of any Stones record up to this point. If you told me Watts wasn’t sitting next to me when he kicks in on “Knocking,” I’d call you a damn liar. And whether or not it’s a “song” (how are you defining that, calstars?) is irrelevant, since “song” isn’t qualitative.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 22 January 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link
I have bought into the stones myth for most of my life. But the truth is these guys are just not that good. They had access to recoding equipment and distribution and that’s the biggest reason they are revered by so many
― calstars, Sunday, 22 January 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link
I love the first few minutes of “Knocking,” but not so much when it turns into a stiff, noodly jam… :/
― Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Sunday, 22 January 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link
But the truth is these guys are just not that good.Of course they are: they’re good at being the Stones. Sometimes, they’re great at being the Stones. What other yardstick (imagined or otherwise) could one even measure them by?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 22 January 2023 21:37 (one year ago) link
yeah that's a weird conclusion to reach
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 January 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link
I must agree that the first part of Knocking >>>> the second part of Knocking
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 22 January 2023 21:46 (one year ago) link
May the ghost of Bobby Keys fart in all y'all haters direction.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link
Aww
― calstars, Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:06 (one year ago) link
There’s nothing stiff (the presence of Watts and Dzidzornu makes stiffness impossible) nor noodly (ditto Taylor and Keys) about “Knocking.” It’s focused, there’s nothing the least bit tentative about it, and of all the Stones songs Scorsese has used, “Knocking” is the only one (I think?) that he lets play through to its completion.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link
I love the first few minutes of “Knocking,” but not so much when it turns into a stiff, noodly jam… :/― Vexatious litigant (morrisp)
Have been saying this for years. Scorsese wisely used the first part in the trailer for Casino, and it was great; he used both parts for the film, and it dragged.
― clemenza, Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:27 (one year ago) link
xp I dunno, it sounds pretty stiff to me… the guitar & sax lines not particular good… like it’s not up to the standards of even the weakest Dead jam. Maybe I’m just not coming at it from the right standpoint.
― Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:29 (one year ago) link
(xpost) Think he maybe used the entirety of "Then He Kissed Me" for Goodfellas' Copa shot, but not 100% sure.
― clemenza, Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:29 (one year ago) link
I'm not a fan.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:30 (one year ago) link
I dunno, it sounds pretty stiff to me… the guitar & sax lines not particular good… like it’s not up to the standards of even the weakest Dead jam. Maybe I’m just not coming at it from the right standpoint.
Yeah, not a patch on Garcia/Marsalis, right?
― Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:39 (one year ago) link
This album is so boring
― calstars, Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:45 (one year ago) link
The idea of comparing any music on earth to the Grateful Dead and having the Dead come out on top...
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link
ban calstars
― mookieproof, Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:51 (one year ago) link
Yeah, not a patch on Garcia/Marsalis, right?Don’t know if you’re joking, but “EOTW” on Without a Net is awesome!
― Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:54 (one year ago) link
(It’s OK for the Stones not to be good at everything they tried…? Fwiw, I also wouldn’t endorse the dead playing Johnny B. Goode or whatever.)
― Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link
Stop worshipping these guys
― calstars, Sunday, 22 January 2023 23:07 (one year ago) link
― calstars, Sunday, 22 January 2023 23:12 (one year ago) link
god I knew it was a bad idea to click on this thread
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Sunday, 22 January 2023 23:13 (one year ago) link
great, now i bought all this shrine equipment and got the incense going and i can't even use it to worship. built this whole rock n roll wing for nothing
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 22 January 2023 23:15 (one year ago) link
does anyone agree that mick taylor blows a note in his solo? then repeats the phrase to get it right? the blown note i'm hearing is at 5:32. don't get me wrong -- i love the whole thing; the jam is slinky and cool as could be. it's even cool that they left in the blown note.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz5mI6tqm_Q
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 23 January 2023 00:46 (one year ago) link
mick Taylor blows
― calstars, Monday, 23 January 2023 00:49 (one year ago) link
Really! Why is he so canon? He’s a player who gets wax and knows what a 9th is Ohh
― calstars, Monday, 23 January 2023 00:55 (one year ago) link