What in God's Green Goodness Are We Up To In Afghanistan?

i believe they were at the 60% level of malfeasance as SS officers. it's time for a change. it's time to go to the center-right.

Nah because I still appreciate this bunch and except for the few who can stop themselves from just insulting and belittling others instead of having discussion, I do believe they are great and disagreements are only disagreements.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, August 30, 2021 8:39 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

those ppl shd also consider not posting itt

the guy you're attempting to argue with wrote this immediately after bringing up following orders:

I don't literally think they're anywhere near the same level of malfeasance as SS officers

― symsymsym, Monday, August 30, 2021 10:00 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The point that people shouldn't always follow orders is pedantic, in one way or another, 99.9% of us are stuck having to follow orders we don't agree with on a regular basis, that does not make us unethical or evil, if anything it should make us compassionate. If you are one of the lucky few who can have a career without dilemmas, congratulations, I just think berating the rest of us isn't constructive.

why are you pushing so hard for this specific pointless dead end conversation

looks like van horn street is a...cul de sac 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

Hahaha

why are you pushing so hard for this specific pointless dead end conversation

― Left, Monday, August 30, 2021 10:36 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Because it matters to me of course.

YEOOWWWWWW

The point that people shouldn't always follow orders is pedantic

but the only person itt actually making that point immediately disavowed it

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— jamie k (@jkbloodtreasure) August 30, 2021

Because it matters to me of course.

― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 bookmarkflaglink

A liberal using right-wing talking points on the back of an interview with a Pakistani woman is what matters. Ok.

why are you pushing so hard for this specific pointless dead end conversation

pop

I have no memory of posting that.

you ok?

check the batteries in your carbon monoxide detector

xpost The Chinese have graciously offered to set up a new Afghan Ministry of Mining & Minerals, they will fully staff it with friendly technocrats and get the mines up & running asap

This is worth a little more reflection. Ministers have made a sensible & constructive decision here.

Firstly, people given certainty about their future in UK can better plan & organise their lives. Others, like prospective employers, can do same. 1/4https://t.co/s177JSuMEi

— Steve Valdez-Symonds (@stevesymondsAI) September 1, 2021

On the next war.

https://t.co/dtx2K0Vvqa pic.twitter.com/h8zSz6on6k

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) September 1, 2021

You mean Taiwan? Yeah. Could be. The nuclear deterrent ain't what it used to be.

Biden otm, the situation is very different.

Like the US give a shit about sacred commitments.

Why wouldn’t Biden say that?

Like the US give a shit about sacred commitments.

― xyzzzz__, Friday, September 3, 2021 3:00 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

If by ‘sacred commitments’ they mean ‘imperial interests’ then yes they absolutely do care about them.

If a thing is true, then the fact that it is in your interest to say it doesn't suddenly make it false.

do you mean china or america or both

another note, we were brutalising afghanistan long before the US got involved and we need to get so much more shit for it from all sides than is currently the case

Has someone written an explainer for why British Tories are madder about the Afghanistan withdrawal than even most U.S. conservatives? https://t.co/S0JqIUq8Ui

— Matt Ford (@fordm) September 2, 2021

silence in UK media coverage of afghanistan is deafening. our “public sphere” can’t even cope with tepid acknowledgments of colonial atrocities (like you occasionally wring out of US liberals) without throwing a fucking tantrum. UK liberals are openly racist bloodthirsty monsters at this point and so many leftists still really want to deny or downplay *our* ongoing imperialism at every turn because…? well I have ideas none of them pretty

Silence? It was front page stuff, and continues to be.

when was UK imperialism front page stuff in the UK except when mass murder is being celebrated

Every time the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq was on the front pages?

yeah it was so hard for our pride to be bush's puppet wasn't it, our boys would never do anything wrong though

You saw enough coverage to come to your conclusions, what else do you need from journalism? That it paints everything the way you want it to?

I'd rather not be lied to about WMDs or have British war crimes covered up or see literal fascist incitement screaming from tabloid front pages every time I go shopping but that's just me I'm weird like that

i'm not in the UK but US media coverage of both wars was and remains disgraceful for the most part, from the credulous acceptance of bush's lies about iraq’s WMDs to the current consensus among pundits that leaving afghanistan was a bad idea. just dedicating the front page to something doesn't mean much.

There has been widespread criticism of both wars in mainstream media, and that criticism continues to this day. Of course the media that favours neocons views were pro-war (until it didn't suit them). To call it silence is wild, we have been forced to obsess about those conflicts over almost all others.

I don't know the US press as well but all the biggest UK newspapers are fascist and that is absolutely not an exaggeration so I am biased

these journalist pieces of shit regularly call for and are responsible for serious violence against minorities and vulnerable and anyone who questions the righteousness every horror perpetrated by british troops and cops and slavers and the absolute fucking stain on this planet that is britain

fuck their pals in serious media too they all have so much blood on their hands everyone should be fucking outraged at what these scum have been doing

I sincerely hope one day you can move out of the UK to somewhere better.

I hope one day you find the mental and spiritual wherewithal to move out of your own arsehole you fucking bullshit Canadian troll cunt

I swear ignoring me will do wonders to your wellbeing calzino. Please do so for the both of us.

that isn't really what you want though is it? your whole fucking tedious raison d'etre is about getting maximum attention by posting stuff that wouldn't be out of place in the Washington Post, but with added *nuance*. You are basically the shitest poster on here since Fred

I hope one day you find the mental and spiritual wherewithal to move out of your own arsehole you fucking bullshit Canadian troll cunt

peace and love

No I really want you to ignore me, I might be a shitty poster but I am not a middle aged man insulting someone on a messageboard on Friday night and that is a truly pathetic sight.

I believe Left, depsite our disagreements, comes from a good place and it does seems to me that living in the UK has some very negative effects on their wellbeing.

And yes maybe I have more ‘centrist’ and ‘nuanced’ views on politics and society. Big whoop, there is a world outside your bubble, I am allowed to expresses those views. It’s going to be a very long life if you can’t manage yourself face à diverse understanding of politics, and considering how you are wasting your middle age years insulting people on the web, it seems to already be the case.

can we cool it on the ageism

"but I am not a middle aged man"

ageist as well, someone tell Aimless his most vociferous supporter.

Dude who's hounding a poster, calling him 'cunt' and calling out his nationality is going to give decency lessons. Leave me alone, move on, I have been asking you for months now.

yeah but you are still a cunt

loving these vibes

xps quasi-response to VHS -

there are much worse places to live than britain from a material resources point of view (which is fucked up and inexcusable and needs to be changed urgently) but there are useable things that could be made to do things to sabotage parts of this international death machine and maybe save something i don't know

i don't come from a good place whatsoever by the way. my dead grandfathers were a british captain and possible spy in india, and a fucking nazi in fucking russia whose reappearance after stalingrad is some kind of horrific anti-miracle, instead of dying in the war along with everything they stood for they both got to live and their kids made me and always told me how great they were

so guilt and self-loathing has always been baked into whatever politics i would end up developing, and if it's productive i am using it