Alice Ripley seems to have exercised very bad judgment and relished the attention of these young “fans,” but “grooming without sexual intent” seems like a weird charge
― treeship., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 00:52 (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
In the initial accusations against Ripley, she was accused of grooming, which is a term commonly used for manipulative behaviors that abusers use to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught.
I think this makes sense as a definition of grooming that doesn't necessarily have to include sexual intent, it could cover e.g. getting someone to keep stolen goods in their home, or lend large sums of money - there is an ulterior motive to the efforts to form an emotional relationship, and the motive is to get the other person to do something damaging to themselves that they wouldn't otherwise be willing to do - but I don't think the article really makes a good case that this is what's happening in this situation?
Did Alice Ripley allegedly groom these young people in hopes of sexually abusing them? It doesn’t appear that way. Did she apparently use the tool of grooming for other purposes with these fans? That’s an entirely different discussion.
what exactly are the "other purposes" that Ripley was allegedly using the tool of grooming for? what was her ulterior motive? the article implies that she formed these relationships with fans to gratify her ego, but that seems hazy as a justification for calling it grooming. In the definition above the 'abuse' is delineated as something distinct from the 'grooming', the grooming is to facilitate the abuse, but in this case it seems like the accusers are arguing that what they call the grooming was in itself 'abusive'?
― soref, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:28 (two years ago) link
Yeah “grooming” might be the wrong word. It sounds like she might be emotionally immature and talked to these kids as if they were her peers. I can definitely see how they felt violated by this as she was ignoring boundaries.
― treeship., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:44 (two years ago) link
the article makes it pretty clear that she would unceremoniously 'dump' them after long, emotionally intimate relationships. imo both the emotionally intimate relationships and the dumping are abuses of the power she holds as an adult over children ffs.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:53 (two years ago) link
and when i say abuses i mean like, proper, full-on emotional damage that it could take years to recover from
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:54 (two years ago) link
Yeah as I said earlier it is a kind of abuse—just one we haven’t seen discussed much in the metoo era.
― treeship., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:56 (two years ago) link
play whatever sick ego games you want with other adults - though you probably shouldn't! - but imagining my, i dunno 13-y-o as having identity questions and then latching onto a revered celebrity who actually texts them and invites them over, it's unthinkable really
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:56 (two years ago) link
Ugh
― Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 12:34 (two years ago) link
finished the Daily Beast article just now, seems pretty clear that Ripley is not being truthful in her denial that she only met fans briefly at the stage door or very occasionally had dinners with them, when DB has seen photos of her with one of these women in San Diego and SF (the woman lived in NYC). I was thinking about what kind of pathology made sense of this and decided that Ripley just sounds like a terrible person, no pathology needed.
― akm, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link
Ron Jeremy indicted on 34 counts of sexual assault.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 23:55 (two years ago) link
Seems like this should spark a reckoning with the porn industry. There are massive abuses there but people don’t like to think about it.
― treeship., Thursday, 26 August 2021 19:29 (two years ago) link
Rose McGowan has gone over the edge
Larry Elder presser with Rose McGowan kicking off now pic.twitter.com/Hae9zUeogH— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 12, 2021
― akm, Monday, 13 September 2021 15:59 (two years ago) link
Yeah I shared that in the monthly politics thread yesterday, so unexpected. So her argument seems to be that too many Democrats ignored her claims and accusations (which is totally in the realm of possibility) that she has no choice but to now be a Republican and stump for mini-Trumps that have been credibly accused of sexual harassment?
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 September 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
*sigh*
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 13 September 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link
https://www.pastemagazine.com/comedy/saturday-night-live/horatio-sanz-sexual-assault-snl/?fbclid=IwAR0LhQwYtBmr9RqkiQOQfXfpYjzbdigW96AFg4Ii4rlriTE0fxYKZbyLYjA
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 30 September 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link
https://www.pastemagazine.com/comedy/saturday-night-live/horatio-sanz-sexual-assault-snl/
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 30 September 2021 21:36 (two years ago) link
Sorryhttps://www.pastemagazine.com/comedy/saturday-night-live/horatio-sanz-sexual-assault-snl/
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 30 September 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link
Never mind. Just trying to remove the fbclid. Don't know why it didn't work.
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 30 September 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link
ugh gross
― certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 30 September 2021 21:42 (two years ago) link
it's not including the slash in your link for some reason
In addition to Michaels, Shoemaker, and Fallon, the potential cast members around to witness Sanz’s conduct would have included Will Ferrell, Ana Gasteyer, Darrell Hammond, Chris Kattan, Tracy Morgan, Chris Parnell, Molly Shannon, Rachel Dratch, Tina Fey, Jerry Minor, Maya Rudolph, Amy Poehler, Dean Edwards, Seth Meyers, and Jeff Richards.
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 1 October 2021 03:09 (two years ago) link
lmao
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 1 October 2021 09:12 (two years ago) link
Now I’m reading this in Don Pardo’s voice always
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 1 October 2021 10:45 (two years ago) link
Reading everything in Don Pardo’s voice = people who have figured out how to live
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 1 October 2021 12:17 (two years ago) link
well everything appears to be back to normalhttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/nyregion/christopher-belter-rape-sentence.html
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 November 2021 23:49 (two years ago) link
nothing much seemed to happen with that horatio sanz story, did it? maybe because he's frankly not famous enough to suffer a real career impact at this point.
― akm, Saturday, 20 November 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
silby's wish came true, at least.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 20 November 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link
Noted Harvey lookalike Jeff Garlin leaves The Goldbergs after complaints about on-set behavior.
https://deadline.com/2021/12/jeff-garlin-exit-the-goldbergs-hr-investigations-season-9-1234892030/?
In his VF interview, Garlin dismissed accusations of being verbally offensive by saying that he is just being “silly” as part of his shtick as a comedian. He did note his penchant for dropping the word “vagina” on the set.According to a source on the show, a camera assistant made a complaint to her department head about Garlin’s use of the word. After the actor found out, he reportedly put his hands around her and kept saying “vagina” in her face over and over again. Overall, Garlin’s go-to jokes that a number of people on the show found offensive were talking about grandma’s vagina, balls and brassier, a co-worker said. Additionally, he would not address some longtime female crew members by name, using instead nicknames that some also considered offensive.
According to a source on the show, a camera assistant made a complaint to her department head about Garlin’s use of the word. After the actor found out, he reportedly put his hands around her and kept saying “vagina” in her face over and over again. Overall, Garlin’s go-to jokes that a number of people on the show found offensive were talking about grandma’s vagina, balls and brassier, a co-worker said. Additionally, he would not address some longtime female crew members by name, using instead nicknames that some also considered offensive.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 December 2021 00:50 (two years ago) link
It's pretty weird that the writer said "balls" without quotes
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 December 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link
grandma's ballsused to hand mepiece of candy
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link
he was talking about whose grandma? his?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 17 December 2021 03:53 (two years ago) link
Grandma’s balls got run over by a reindeer
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 17 December 2021 03:54 (two years ago) link
that show is so fucking terrible, maybe it was his negative abusive behavior to blame all along
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 December 2021 05:41 (two years ago) link
how does one explain the steady solidity of Curb then?
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2021 07:06 (two years ago) link
Chris Noth
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/chris-noth-accused-of-sexual-assault-1235063596/
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 December 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link
Saw some discussion of how a general accusation of "sexual assault" allows for some weaselly wiggle room. What Noth is being accused of is outright violent *rape.*
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 December 2021 14:38 (two years ago) link
New accusations against Bryan Singer.
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/bryan-singer-blake-stuerman-1235136986/
― peace, man, Tuesday, 21 December 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link
no charges were ever brought against toback????
yes all my posts today are based on real names disallowed by the Spelling Bee
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 28 January 2022 11:11 (two years ago) link
Sion Sono
https://deadline.com/2022/04/japanese-director-sion-sono-accused-of-sexual-harassment-1234994873/
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link
Cary Fukunaga
Acclaimed Director Cary Fukunaga Accused of Grooming Young Women for Sex https://t.co/86h9z8eUZR pic.twitter.com/HtdPhEZ8Lk— Jezebel (@Jezebel) May 9, 2022
― akm, Monday, 9 May 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link
(important to note that accusers here are all of legal age, there isn't much I would actually call 'abuse' here, and I also assume all people in Hollywood behave this way)
― akm, Monday, 9 May 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link
The parents of an 18-year-old from North Dakota have obtained a protective order against “The Flash” star Ezra Miller.But the teen’s parents and law enforcement are having a hard time locating Miller to serve the actor with the order. https://t.co/B89xAGTEGx— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) June 10, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 June 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link
Presumably in restraints somewhere on the Warner Brothers lot.
― circa1916, Monday, 13 June 2022 02:45 (one year ago) link
for a while this spring all you had to do if you were looking for e. miller was camp out at my local a few nights until the flash showed up to try and fight you. haven’t had any encounters in the past month or two but have heard a lot of grim gossip about this relationship— a small and sad part of what’s lately felt like an accelerated wiring of this island into the international lawless playboy circuit. (for the state more broadly, of course, it’s always been a specialty.)
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 13 June 2022 04:32 (one year ago) link
Paul Haggis accused again, and held in Italy.
https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/paul-haggis-arrest-italy-sexual-assault-charges-1370822/
― nickn, Monday, 20 June 2022 07:38 (one year ago) link
Scrubs Co-Executive Producer Arrested For Alleged Serial Sexual Assaults
https://laist.com/news/criminal-justice/eric-weinberg-scrubs-arrested-serial-sexual-assaults-rape-californication
― nickn, Friday, 15 July 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link
Dan Price
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/18/technology/dan-price-resign-social-media.html
― symsymsym, Friday, 19 August 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link
I'd heard the grumblings about him abusing his ex wife but bloody hell.
I never really thought about using good works/good social media prescence as a smokescreen, but its clearly an effective one.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 19 August 2022 06:33 (one year ago) link
it’s as old as the road to Savile
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 19 August 2022 07:12 (one year ago) link
sadly the guy who started cult baseball comedy comic The Dugout did the same thing, white knighted all over social media but turned out to be an absolute creep
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 August 2022 08:14 (one year ago) link
the dan price thing is irritating as fuck because there was a goddamned BLOOMBERG story about him waterboarding his ex that dropped BEFORE her TED talk was due to be posted (the one Price got nuked).
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-gravity-ceo-dan-price/
I read this when it was published and assumed he was toast going forward; not only was there that, but he was in weird legal disputes with his brother, I worked in the ecommerce space and no one took his payments company seriously, and it's been revealed they don't really do any development, they simply sell access to another software system. So the company is/was BS, their CEO an obvious grandstanding asshole, and the abuse allegations. And yet he's consistently been all over twitter and linkedin, constantly having his shit shared by people who you'd think would know better and who I guess were terminally incurious, because if you googled his name it was really not very hard to come across that story. I'm glad the NYT writer pointed out that the Times itself refused to investigate him in the past.
― akm, Friday, 19 August 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link