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ah the map made out of cheesu
I've been messing around on Duolingo just for passively learning sentence structure but damn everyone seems to be so competitive in these dumb league tables they have

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 22 August 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link

Renshu grammar is really good for sentence structure once you get past the baffling setup.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Sunday, 22 August 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link

The gamification is in the form of a virtual gatchapon.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Sunday, 22 August 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link

Sorry, I hated that interface so much I just gave up on that thing.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 August 2021 00:11 (two years ago) link

Forgot to mention
原-げん

頑-がん

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 August 2021 01:37 (two years ago) link

Think I have a further elaboration of common transitive/intransitive pair patterns.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 August 2021 12:11 (two years ago) link

If the pairs end in す/る, the first tends to be transitive, the second intransitive.

If the pairs end in える/ある, the first is usually transitive, the second intransitive.

DO U SEE?

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 August 2021 12:27 (two years ago) link

Then there is
苦しむ
苦しめる

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 August 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link

But
伝える
伝わる
which fit the pattern

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 August 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link

流す
流れる

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 August 2021 11:01 (two years ago) link

海外旅行なんて無理よ。

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 August 2021 12:08 (two years ago) link

コロナなんかですか?

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 28 August 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link

Tsurukame audio feature now broken due to Wanikani file format change :(

No Covid news is good news, thanks. Actually some relatives just got it, but some others tested negative.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 23:18 (two years ago) link

Further discussion on the Wanikani community board. Hoping a fix will come soon.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link

Developer taking a look as of half an hour ago.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 September 2021 10:55 (two years ago) link

…and it is already fixed on TestFlight

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 September 2021 12:56 (two years ago) link

会社 and 社会 is driving me nuts, I can never remember which one is which

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 2 September 2021 12:58 (two years ago) link

So many like that, including that pair.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 September 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

The good thing about WaniKani is that it allows you to test that stuff over and over until you finally get it. The bad thing is that often it feels like I will never get it.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 September 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

the one that has been really tripping me up tho is 八つ being ya and 八日 is yo, while both 四つ and 四日 are both also yo

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 2 September 2021 14:52 (two years ago) link

so confusing I'm not even sure I got it right this time lol

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 2 September 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link

Same.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 September 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link

Also sometimes not careful about which counter it even is and mix them together.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 September 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link

会社 and 社会 is driving me nuts, I can never remember which one is which

i just learned these words today! time will tell if i'm able to retain the difference between the two as the flashcard intervals get larger.

i'm starting to think my "don't worry about pronunciation" approach might be a bad idea. on the one hand, i can read and understand the kanji but on the other hand, i can't really look them up because i don't know how to type them

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 September 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link

Yes. Feel like the whole point of the thing is to learn the most important readings/pronunciations.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 September 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

Recently signed up for emails from the wanikani guys which led me to this interesting and relevant discussion: https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/kanji-radicals-mnemonic-method/

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 September 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link

These two always get me:
相手
助手

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 September 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link

会社 and 社会 is driving me nuts, I can never remember which one is which

This one is an easy one for me as I’m often looking for the name and address of a sale brewery in the side of the bottle and anchoring to 株式会社 is the easiest way. 社会 is just the other one.

On the other hand, 相手 and 助手 are infuriatingly close. Inevitably I always do better if I can anchor to something outside of the flash cards.

Recently I have been struggling with

仲良し
仲が良い

which are infuriatingly close in meaning but definitely not the same.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Friday, 3 September 2021 04:18 (two years ago) link

This related word gets mixed in too:
仲良く

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 September 2021 11:38 (two years ago) link

Just mixed up these two

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:55 (two years ago) link

Sound is back on Tsurukame.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 September 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link

Thing that I am starting to get straight:
The short and long pronunciation of the first kanji here:
世界
世紀
世辞

Thing that still gives me grief:
All the different nuances of meaning as well as whether to rendaku or not for words that start with

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 September 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

I thought I was getting a feel for when to rendaku until I came to 早口, my brain really thinks this should be guchi dammit

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 5 September 2021 00:38 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 01:04 (two years ago) link

Wikipedia article quite good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendaku#Examples

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 01:29 (two years ago) link

Sorry, linked in the middle instead of the top.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link

Both readings are correct for 早口, and you certainly hear both said. There’s a lot of regional and personal variation in rendaku in any case.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Sunday, 5 September 2021 01:35 (two years ago) link

Ah, yeah, so they are, thanks. Me, I can never quite remember the meaning of this one:
早速

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 01:51 (two years ago) link

Basically stuff that means something like recently, soon, nearby, just now right away etc. always gets jumbled up in my head.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 01:53 (two years ago) link

Right now my recent rendaku issues center on a particular kanji that is already voiced

vs a lookalike with similar pronunciation that does have a rendaku and non-rendaku version

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 02:04 (two years ago) link

Anyway I feel kind of good that I aware of and know how to type the special rendaku kana ぢ and づ as in 鼻血(はなぢ) . Can’t think of a word for the other one, actually.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 02:57 (two years ago) link

早まって喜ぶな。

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link

^From Clozemaster, which I highly recommend.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 03:03 (two years ago) link

Have been forging ahead on Duolingo but it just got insanely hard.

I was on the level
Memories and The Arts 1
And just got to
Weather 2 and Law
but the sentences are just too long at this point

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link

So probably should just stick to Clozemaster

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 22:22 (two years ago) link

These three, but getting close:


What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 September 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link

I thought I was getting a feel for when to rendaku until I came to 早口, my brain really thinks this should be guchi dammit

Just got caught by the reverse situation with
非常口

What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 September 2021 21:51 (two years ago) link

These two:

What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link


What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 September 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link

I finally came up with a system to get it thru my thick skull lol
会社 kaisha - begins with a k sound, company
社会 shakai - begins with an s sound, society

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 9 September 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link


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