The Jordan Peterson Thread

obviously this abusers' logic among other awful things

Peterson has misread Superman.

I greatly doubt if Jordan Peterson has any knowledge of Superman, other than knowing the main characters' names and a smattering of vague impressions. It's not like he is writing a thesis on this subject. He's just lazily pontificating, like always.

I don't know about that. He brings Superman up kind of a lot

Does he demonstrate any deeper knowledge than I indicated? I haven't read any Superman comics for 55 years and even I know that Clark Kent never cried in them and wasn't given to expressing his emotions. He was, to coin a phrase "mild-mannered", not weepy.

same difference he’s just a beta cuck who chicks will always pass over for his chad alter ego

I feel like JP's read neglects to remember who actually created Superman, and what it means for the woman to reject the repressed uptight Kansas Protestant type in favor of the man who proudly announces himself as a representative of an older and wiser, albeit slightly alien, race

I'm reading Merve Emre's history of Myers-Briggs and Jung seems to appeal to dangerously bad thinkers

Man of Steel, Woman of Clean Your Room

Jung was a more erudite, more insightful proponent of the same spiritualist impulses that drove the rise of theosophy and made heroes of wilhelm reich and gurdjieff. compared to much older traditions like Buddhism, Carl's just a babe in the woods.

I have had my eye on that book to add to my giant pile of To Read, is it any good? Also I am somewhat interested in Jung myself but, oh wait.

― Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, August 22, 2021 4:05 PM (one hour ago)

Haha sorry no offense!

The Personality Brokers is good, though it's turning out to be more straightforwardly biographical than I expected, at least at the halfway mark. The subject is relevant to my phd research (as historical background), but it's a pretty breezy summer read on that scale. If I didn't occasionally feel obliged to take notes on it, I probably could have whipped through it in a few days

If you're not aware of how Jungianism is bullshit, Cass Eris has an hour-long youtube video on Jung, and she's taught Jung to students in introductory university classes. She also spends way too much time and effort breaking down Peterson's crap. I've heard that Richard Noll's The Jung Cult is the book to read if you need more.

Interesting, thanks!

Leading UK establishment newspaper (nicknamed the Torygraph) gives platform to clownish dumbass - mind you, they helped one end up as PM.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/jordan-peterson-collapse-values-greater-threat-climate-change/

saw this screenshotted a bunch and assumed it was fake but apparently not, lmao

Come and say that to my face and we'll see who needs a benzo, bucko. https://t.co/OnJnkFPC5P

— Dr Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) November 17, 2021

damn I also thought that was fake loooool

Swapped the bentos out for roid rage, it seems.

benzos, fuck

Tempers getting frayed.

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He’s ornery he didn’t get a spot at U of Austin

Looks like someone's getting CRABBY

He's on Question Time this week, apparently

ffs

with Stella Creasy adding some left-wing balance to the panel as well.

He's been on before, of course, but that was before he became a standing joke. Privatize the BBC now.

can someone explain what the heck any of this even means or am I better off not knowing?

This is a guy who has been throwing one big temper tantrum ever since someone asked him to use their preferred pronouns. He just keeps getting angrier and weirder. These levels of cope have never been seen before. Unprecedented. pic.twitter.com/7GCovnh0yS

— Jort-Michel Connard 🐘 (@torriangray) February 3, 2022

I assume "wordcel" means someone who cares about pronouns? god, I have no idea with this guy. half the tweets/quotes I see from him these guys are so over-the-top weird that I assume they're fake. but they're not. and yet people I work with still quote him.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cultures/wordcel

Wordcel is a slang term derived from incel used to define someone who has high verbal intelligence and is "good with words" but feels inadequately compensated for their skill, the "cel" suffix denoting frustration over being denied something they feel they deserve. The term rose in popularity in early 2022 along with the related term "numbercel," also called "mathcel" or "shape rotator," used to define someone with high command in a technical STEM field but feels they deserve more respect for it. Wordcels and numbercels are often portrayed as rivals.

For fuck's sake.

so "inadequately compensated" means "can't get laid" right? these are variants on incel but with certain supposed specializations? and now they are fighting it out against each other?

also, I like how frogbs interpretation, while not correct, seemed utterly plausible too

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/wordcels-numbercels-definition

it all boils down to a massive sense of entitlement spanning all sorts of petty grievances

The idea of a host of sweaty engineers bent over their phones tweeting to each other about how the artsy guys are lame virgins who can't FUCK like CS majors

and also evil weirdo billionaire marc andreessen!

massive LOL @ the guy who specializes in mythopoetic gobbeldygook and who evidently doesn't understand how scientific modeling works being "WE GOTTA PROTECT STEM FROM THE HUMANITIES LOSERS"

Like, how tf did this clown get a PhD?

he's got that Scott Adams thing going on, a reasonably intelligent person who thinks he's several orders of magnitude smarter than he actually is, who drew some attention and got his shitty/dumb takes exposed and reacted to it with a full-on cognitive dissonance meltdown

I'm guessing thru patriarchy

xp

and this is of course an arc that all x-cel types relate to: full life meltdown due to the misguided perception that they are smarter and more deserving than they really are

"shape rotator" as a slur for someone who's good at math sounds like a Simpsons joke.

t all boils down to a massive sense of entitlement spanning all sorts of petty grievances

this looks to me like blowback from TAG kids who mistakenly believed in the perpetual continuance of their special privileges because they were already marked out for future happiness and success.

"shape rotator" as a slur for someone who's good at math sounds like a Simpsons joke.

Lmao “fork and spoon operator”.

It all boils down to…

Could also be a subset of the Dunning Kruger effect.

Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general.

it's a choad

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Like, how tf did this clown get a PhD?

― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, February 3, 2022 12:07 PM (forty-seven minutes ago)

psychology is a grift ;)

The idea of a host of sweaty engineers bent over their phones tweeting to each other about how the artsy guys are lame virgins who can't FUCK like CS majors

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, February 3, 2022 10:45 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

"If Olivia from my math section would only let me show her how I rotate my shape"

There is and always has been less to this clown that meets the eye, despite the best efforts of the nyt et al to search for more

If all else fails he'll always be assured of a warm and respectful welcome at the BBC.

Maybe 60 Minutes.

Simply one of the funniest fucking things I have ever seen pic.twitter.com/u4aEe9gBAF

— Michael Hobbes (@RottenInDenmark) February 2, 2022

and they said comedy was dead

No that's irony

oh. well everyone agrees that's alive

I was trying to say that irony is dead tbh but I can't really make an unironic case for it.