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the discussion did help me learn to distinguish the spoken "barna" vs "barnet" which i kept getting wrong

criminally negligible (harbl), Friday, 20 August 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link

Oh yeah.

Okay, book says noun first, broren min is "more oral, concrete and earthly,", whereas the noun last min bror is "more formal, textual and abstract." This is from Louis Janus's grammar book, which I recommend, it's pretty clearly written, although LJ the person was kind of difficult, at least in my online interacts with him.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 20 August 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link

ok so i'm right in feeling like it's not that easy to to understand. maybe beyond the abilities of duolingo to teach, too!

criminally negligible (harbl), Friday, 20 August 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link

I tried to see how many google hits I got for each of those two but that didn't help me get a feel for it.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 20 August 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

I got 4 million hits for "min bror" but only 260 thousand for "broren min." On the other hand "lots of broren min" in tatoeba but no "min bror" as far as I could tell.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 20 August 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

Ah, there is more detail, as expected, in the book by the Strandskogens, also recommended.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 20 August 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link

I really enjoyed learning Norwegian but then I had some difficulties and it didn’t quite stick. I can elaborate if you like.

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 20 August 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link

^ yes

i think i've figured out the possessive thing, it's just definite noun goes first, indefinite noun goes second. i can't get over the number of words for grandparents. bestparents, fathermother, mothermother, oldmother, something else. then grandchildren is childrenchildren?

criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link

Main difficulty was: it was easy enough, what with being closely related to German and English. But I couldn't find a context to use it and practice it. I used to be on a Yahoo Group, two of them actually, but it was usually more for absolute beginners. And then once I tried to write more complicated things and made a few mistakes it would freak out the some of the gatekeeper native speakers and such. Not a guy way to learn or speak a language. Now we have italki I guess.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

Best thing to do if possible is to start speaking sooner rather than later but then you need an appropriate person to do that with.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 18:49 (two years ago) link

Or course I should practice what I preach but...

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 18:51 (two years ago) link

yeah i would like to do italki. maybe another month or so.

criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

the lack of speaking is why i can't speak spanish anymore even though i used to be quite good at it when i did talk to people. even though there are TONS of opportunities i could find easily, but i like new shiny things and i want to do a new language. also hate hot weather and want to visit a cold place.

criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

It's complicated.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link

Certain languages call, and there is very little use in trying to ignore them for an "easier" language.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link

On the other hand Norwegian is just not a big enough language to concoct some kind of long distance immersion.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link

On another note: how’d you do on Oscar’s Duocon Keynote?

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 01:52 (two years ago) link

Got my Oscar's Duocon Keynote August badge successfully. Assume you did too JR?

brain (krakow), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 07:46 (two years ago) link

i didn't see that, what is it?

criminally negligible (harbl), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 10:52 (two years ago) link

Monthly challenge

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 12:02 (two years ago) link

oh, yes, i unknowingly completed the challenge

criminally negligible (harbl), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 12:05 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Just finished the October challenge over the weekend but my heart wasn’t in it.

Spiral Scratchiti (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 00:43 (two years ago) link

Almost wish it would randomly choose a language for me to work on.

Spiral Scratchiti (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 01:16 (two years ago) link

How’s the Norwegian going, harbl?

Spiral Scratchiti (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 October 2021 03:18 (two years ago) link

p good. 76 day streak. i was in diamond league then i got demoted. i don't do quite enough to get back there but it's ok.

certified juice therapist (harbl), Friday, 15 October 2021 03:41 (two years ago) link

I still have a soft spot for Norwegian for some reason.

Spiral Scratchiti (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 October 2021 03:45 (two years ago) link

Have you tried to read any of these yet?
http://runeberg.org/folkeven/

Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 October 2021 13:20 (two years ago) link

no, but looks useful, thanks!

certified juice therapist (harbl), Saturday, 16 October 2021 13:31 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Jsem zde cizí.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 November 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link

Czech is looking real good to me right now. Wonder how long this infatuation will last.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link

i am on a 100 day streak. i did forget one day but i had a streak freeze. i still think it's cheating but who cares it's a phone game right

certified juice therapist (harbl), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 12:19 (two years ago) link

No judgment necessary. Streak freeze is sometimes needed.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 12:26 (two years ago) link

Still enjoying the Czech. Will see how long this infatuation honeymoon lasts.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 November 2021 22:21 (two years ago) link

ja, jeg vil gjerne kjøpe seks elefanter

certified juice therapist (harbl), Monday, 15 November 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link

Hah, that's one reason I am enjoying the Czech course, none of that BS.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 November 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link

what you don't need to learn "why is the plumber jumping on the turtles" in czech? i thought they did this on all the languages. i didn't get far enough in russian i guess.

certified juice therapist (harbl), Monday, 15 November 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link

Hungarian course is the uncrowned king of that stuff.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 November 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

oh i've never looked at the forums before! just found norwegian4people.com through there and was able to mostly understand a simple story about anders getting dressed and ready to eat frokost

certified juice therapist (harbl), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link

Duolingo has a Norwegian Level 2! Who knew?

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 November 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

Jeg forstår ikke engelsk.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 November 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link

Ingen forstår meg.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 November 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link

In other news I see that some people use Discord to learn languages, Norwegian in particular.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 November 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link

how do i get norwegian level 2? i just got to unit 4 but i'm not done with all of 3 yet

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 18 November 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link

Sorry that was about Pimsleur, not Duolingo

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 November 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link

It’s pretty rare for them to have higher levels for smaller languages.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 November 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link

Když kocour není doma, myši mají pré.

Sterl of the Quarter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 November 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

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