Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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Actually, I’ll amend that by saying if you have a band/artist name registered as a trademark, you could theoretically sue an infringer for damages. That would be a long way to go though if it’s just a track or two on Spotify.

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Thursday, 19 August 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link

Looks like the "Basinski" song is still up, but it's been quarantined from his discography
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6M8YgOVLSKJmf9n0ZXSW1F

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 August 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link

Weirdly the DATE ADDED for all my Release Radar stuff this morning was "in 27 minutes"

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 20 August 2021 02:31 (two years ago) link

argh, tried to transfer unlistened-to songs to a new playlist on the desktop app and the dumb thing erased something like 75% of them after i moved them. current interface is buggy garbage.

I've got some local files i would like to play on spotify but they're not showing up as local files. Every other album in the folder i selected shows up but one. Is it possible for artists to block albums from showing up in local files?

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Thursday, 2 September 2021 08:23 (two years ago) link

solved :/

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Thursday, 2 September 2021 09:32 (two years ago) link

can't play the local files now...damn you spotify

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Thursday, 2 September 2021 10:50 (two years ago) link

J0e R0gan, this thread’s unofficial mascot, has Covid and is taking unapproved horse dewormer.

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Thursday, 2 September 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

weird thing I've been experiencing: I got some new Bluetooth headphones (https://en-us.sennheiser.com/pxc-550-ii), overall really like them, sound about as good as BTs can I think.

So the weird thing is that I subscribe to Spotify and also Qobuz this French hi-rez streaming service

When I use these BT headphones (and also tested on a cheapie Amazon pair of BT earbuds too, same thing happened), Spotify sounds so weird/bad...and this is NOT a bitrate thing, like it just sounds like there's a blanket over the music. When I listen to the same track on Qobuz, it's like the veil is lifted -- this is a really striking and noticeable change not sitting there trying to discern the subtleties of bitrates

and it's definitely Bluetooth related, when I use my home set up - Chromecast Audio > Schitt Modi 3 > stereo - that weird muffled degradation isn't there. Sure, I think Qobuz is better overall, but the Spotify HQ stream sounds fine, it sounds like the same piece of music and i'm sure most people wouldn't really notice a difference.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 September 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link

I don't know why that would be, but Spotify support might be able to help you. I have no issues with Spotify sound quality over multiple different BT buds/headphones using either my Mac or my phone...

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 3 September 2021 00:27 (two years ago) link

if you’re a Mac user, it kind of sounds like this. I had a similar issue recently.

beard papa, Friday, 3 September 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link

I had that issue on my last MacBook (if it’s the same thing); downloaded the app to force the setting and the whole bit.

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Friday, 3 September 2021 03:13 (two years ago) link

great they have kept the New Episodes feature as a constant , & now it has been constantly the same for 2 days. Lovely.
NOt showing any shows past Sept 1st like

Stevolende, Friday, 3 September 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link

I have never cared enough about Spotify's tweaks to complain before, but this new thing where a band's discography is displayed as a vertical scroll in descending chronological order is the worst, dumbest thing I've ever seen.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 5 September 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link

I've hung on to my $5/month Spotify Unlimited acct for years, never "upgraded" to Premium. At some point I put the Spotify app on my phone; I don't remember why, since Unlimited is supposed to be desktop-only. But I used the app yesterday to see if I could look stuff up on it even if I couldn't play it, and discovered that I can now use the phone app for playback! I don't know if it's an app bug, account bug or account upgrade, but it's pretty nice. (Glenn, if it's an account bug, don't rat me out.)

― Miami weisse (WmC), Friday, January 24, 2020 8:35 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ha, I see the codes for those old accounts in queries sometimes. You've probably outlived the special-cases in the code that were intended to restrict them...

― glenn mcdonald, Friday, January 24, 2020 8:42 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

victory through attrition

― Miami weisse (WmC), Friday, January 24, 2020 8:55 PM (one year ago)

Accounting side has caught up with software side, and I've been informed that my Unlimited account billing is going away and will be converted to the free account, or I can bump it up from $5 to $10 for premium. Nice while it lasted.

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Sunday, 5 September 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link

this new thing where a band's discography is displayed as a vertical scroll in descending chronological order is the worst, dumbest thing I've ever seen.

*sits here sadly chuckling as a user of Amazon Music, which sorts an artist’s albums in (I guess) order of popularity; no option to sort alphabetically or by year*

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Sunday, 5 September 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

I'm trying to figure out what order would make more sense than chronological

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 5 September 2021 16:43 (two years ago) link

For an artist with a huge discography, lots of reissues, etc., it can get unwieldy (try scrolling for a specific Grateful Dead album on any streaming service)… but reverse-chron is generally my preference.

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Sunday, 5 September 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

It's not the chronological aspect; it's the one-long-vertical-scroll part. They used to be displayed as a grid and you could click on the album you wanted to hear. Now the newest album (even if it's, say, a 2020 reissue of a 1975 release) is up top and you have to scroll down and down and down until you find the one you want.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 5 September 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link

Do they expand all the tracks of each album in the scroll?

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Sunday, 5 September 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

Has this discography thing not gone back to what it was a year or so ago. I thought they did used to have discography's stacked vertically without thumbnails. Are they just continually throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks. & I'm not sure for who cos they keep dumping things i like and trying things i really don't.
THey have updated the new episodes thing like once since I complained then stuck with that,.

Stevolende, Sunday, 5 September 2021 18:01 (two years ago) link

I remember it being a pain trying to find things like specific Grateful Dead tracks when you weren't 100% up on what the individual set was when I was setting up playlists for teh radio show i did a few years ago. Which was mainly done using the Spotify set up because teh radio station had an account with them. & i think that was when I started using the program.
Think i frequently had to try to find the tracks using the search engine.
The thumbnail representation of a specific lp/set was pretty recent I thought. Is it actually older than teh current continuum of random changes which would date back 2 or 3 months wouldn't it? things are changing so much it's hard to keep track.

Really wondering what the story on that New Episodes thing is, looks like it may be done manually so it will update a load of things at the same time instead of automatically as a new episode is upped. Would think it would be part of an algorithm that would do the latter but this is the 2nd time I've seen it act like that. Would think incremental change would be more subtle and less visible.
Very odd, would think that this is a very individual process dependent 100% on the individual user's listening history and therefore not something that could act like that. Is there a process that would only update a number of things after a trigger or something I'd checked the new episodes thing at least once before it updated this morning and it still had the update thing from 2 days ago. JUst not getting this and am assuming that if it is happening to me it must be more widespread.

Stevolende, Monday, 6 September 2021 09:34 (two years ago) link

They used to be displayed as a grid and you could click on the album you wanted to hear.

I still see this method. I forgot there used to be a choice between grid and list view though.

Tabs would probably work well here although maybe there are accessibility issues with this that may be preventing it as viable method of navigating between albums, singles, comps per artist.

nashwan, Monday, 6 September 2021 10:48 (two years ago) link

lol nm just noticed the grid/list toggle is still there at the top corner

nashwan, Monday, 6 September 2021 10:58 (two years ago) link

lol nm just noticed the grid/list toggle is still there at the top corner

Thanks! Problem solved.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 6 September 2021 12:36 (two years ago) link

fake Elder track turned up in my release radar
https://open.spotify.com/album/2LghjX6Um8mcyXkoUxJrlR?si=a_Ckj9QKQiOiniFAXt1dTg&dl_branch=1

Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Monday, 6 September 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

Accounting side has caught up with software side, and I've been informed that my Unlimited account billing is going away

Same here! I'd really like to keep Unlimited as I still have little use for the phone app. And I can't really afford an upgrade. Given the Unlimited option was grandfathered a very long time ago we're clearly very loyal customers, so I guess they're betting on us sticking around regardless. (Or there's so few of us left that they don't give a shit either way.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 6 September 2021 15:37 (two years ago) link

I'll stick with free until/unless it's too annoying. I think I'll still be able to add to my existing playlists, the main one of which I play at work from someone else's (premium) account.

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Monday, 6 September 2021 15:49 (two years ago) link

lol nm just noticed the grid/list toggle is still there at the top corner

seconding unperson's thanks for nashwan's wellspotted help! I've been annoyed for days too.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 9 September 2021 22:16 (two years ago) link

Makes you wonder how well that tested. It's wild to be having to scroll down so much for those oldest releases either way. Putting the releases in a table view effectively like the playlist view so you can sort by newest/oldest and other criteria could be a winner.

nashwan, Thursday, 9 September 2021 22:35 (two years ago) link

Ah, I see how it could test well, especially with a younger (whatever that means etc) audience: it is actually somewhat pleasant when the discography is short.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 9 September 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

Has anybody else experienced the thing where you highlight something from the bottom of teh queue and try to move it only to find something completely different has been moved for no apparent reason. Just bugs me badly. & I don't know why it happens.
Am I missing how you highlight things because I have had things start playing when I've just been trying to highlight them before.
There's a lot about this interface that I don't like. Not sure if the cointinualk turnover of teh last few months has actually improved things has it.

But would really like to know if that thing where highlighting one thing appears to have another thing movable. I don't think what is being moved is actually something previously highlighted or anything. But I have seen that if I scroll through th elist i can sometimes find some random seeming thing highlighted for no apparent reason separate to what I have tried to highlight. Like what gives

Stevolende, Friday, 10 September 2021 08:31 (two years ago) link

I am assuming that the probl;ems I am having with interface are more widespread so wanted to check if teh same activity is happening with others. I would think that if one tried to highlight something in say Word and something else completely random moved ine would find it strange. So is this happening to others in the current set up of Spotify.
Or is everybody creating playlists for listening they will only do once. Should be able to set up a queued set of podcasts without need ing to have it be a unit that is more at least semi permanent.
Whatever, process of highlighting seems to be counterintuitiuve at best. I'm expecting the set of shows I've got lit up to be recognised when I click on them to move them in the queue not something completely different. I don't know what the completel;y different show's connection to being clicked on is. I noticed yesterday that if i clicked on one specific show I got a lit up bar across another several numbers in the queueing sequence higher. I couldn't see the connection with what I was trying to do. I unclicked the show I hadn't clicked but each time I clicked the one I was trying to move thsi one would also light up. Is that a bug or a feature?

Stevolende, Saturday, 11 September 2021 06:37 (two years ago) link

Re: the Spotify Unlimited ending thing, I got that email too, but the regular 5 bucks payment was taken out as usual a few days ago, and after checking a few things it looks like the Unlimited subscription is still active but has reverted to its original form, i.e. full functionality on the desktop app but only the free version of the mobile app. I'm kind of peeved that I'm now only getting what I paid for, but fair play I suppose.

Heimweh, Saturday, 11 September 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

why does the program recommend albums then have every track blacked out so it won't play? Seems a bit counterproductive. From what I remember of trying to queue a track from this it just skips. Odd behaviour but I've seen it several times now.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 September 2021 10:06 (two years ago) link

I feel like you have a lot of weird technical issues that I've never seen before. Is anyone else confirming this stuff?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 13 September 2021 13:34 (two years ago) link

Not so far but I'm getting them frequently.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 September 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link

I've had some albums turn up in the reccommendations folders and they have had one lit up track for some reason. Which makes some sense but is still frustrating since would be good to have choice of tracks. But to have things turn up and have no playable tracks makes little sense.
Is it the fact I'm using Ubuntu as my OS?
Not functioning in the way I'd like it to anyway.
& still I think there were elements of the pre mess around interface that I preferred to current.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 September 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link

Latest one that was all blacked out was bruce palmer The Cycle is Completed which was in my Album Picks.
Not sure how bespoke that Album Picks thing is to me or alternatively how generic. Assume its somewhat based on my play choices but can tend to be a bit repetitive. Don't think I've seen that Bruce Palmer much before. Did mean to buy it when it was around as an I think Rhino handmade, saw it compared to peter green's solo lp The End of The Game. Long improvised mainly instrumental tracks.
Not heard it in an age though.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 September 2021 14:03 (two years ago) link

Anyone tried this?

Whatever you do, do *not* ingenuously tap @Spotify’s new “Enhance” button on one of your carefully hand-crafted playlists. It would more accurately be labeled “Vandalize,” or perhaps “Ruin.”

— Michael Chabon (@michaelchabon) September 18, 2021

groovypanda, Sunday, 19 September 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link

uhoh

aegis philbin (crüt), Sunday, 19 September 2021 14:21 (two years ago) link

lol You can go back! Just tap "enhanced" again and it goes back to your original playlist!! in the replies

nashwan, Sunday, 19 September 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link

I think it should just mean it zooms in on the artwork images in the playlist view enough to make them having been worth including there

nashwan, Sunday, 19 September 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link

re: things being moved, i liked this https://kylechayka.substack.com/p/essay-the-digital-death-of-collecting (which is kind of like the spotify specific version of this https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/how-social-media-redesigns-manipulate-us)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 19 September 2021 21:29 (two years ago) link

Finally, in recent years, Spotify became the single international behemoth of mainstream music, an unavoidable* iceberg of content.

*citation needed

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 20 September 2021 01:43 (two years ago) link

posting to link this question crut asked me but I haven't had the chance to expand all posts on a computer since

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 20 September 2021 02:09 (two years ago) link

Not only is Spotify avoidable, there are a number of alternatives. That’s why I don’t really understand why people complain about it so bitterly, why not just try another service? They all have the same stuff, more or less(?)

juristic person (morrisp), Monday, 20 September 2021 02:31 (two years ago) link

Don't know if anyone else got the survey? Basically the gist seemed to be would I like to pay twice as much for a bunch of things that are very much not music. I would not.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 24 September 2021 07:34 (two years ago) link

Didn't see a survey, but was one of those things hi-rez streaming?

Taliban! (PBKR), Friday, 24 September 2021 11:29 (two years ago) link


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