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WATCH: CA Republican gubernatorial candidate in recall served subpoena during debate pic.twitter.com/jUue7ozmTh

— Melody Gutierrez (@MelodyGutierrez) August 18, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 02:23 (two years ago) link

Are you really served when you get it flung at you

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link

So what's everyone doing for the other part of the ballot? Leave it blank like the Newsom campaign says? Vote for the dem youtuber w/ nuts policies? Vote for R former mayor of San Diego who maybe won't be a total mess? Write in the Lt Gov (which apparently doesn't count?) Wait to decide until you lose the ballot?

Tough choices.

fajita seas, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 02:55 (two years ago) link

I left it blank. I checked with SF elections and they already received my ballot

I don't want to vote for Faulconer and everybody else on the ballot is a joke

Dan S, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link

I did end up writing in the Lt Gov, which I know doesn't count.

Yeah agree. I just can't vote for Faulconer.

fajita seas, Thursday, 19 August 2021 00:14 (two years ago) link

I left it blank as well.. the whole thing is a sham.

Every four years we have a 'conversation' about how lame the Electoral College is, and then it dies down only to reignite four years later. I feel like we need to have a conversation about CA's ridiculously low bar for recall, but we'll likely just move on when this is finished, whatever the outcome

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 19 August 2021 00:32 (two years ago) link

A federal lawsuit has been filed, arguing that this recall election "allows a replacement candidate to be elected with a small plurality β€” and potentially with far fewer votes than the number of votes cast to keep the current governor". It won't have an influence on the recall but it is a compelling argument. Ultimately I think Newsom will be ok

Dan S, Thursday, 19 August 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link

it’s so crazy. it seems like we’ve had a recall vote on every governor since i moved to this stupid state in 2002

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 August 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link

Gray Davis was in a far weaker position than Newsome is right now.. and no big star candidate like Schwarzenegger

Seems like he's being recalled for eating at a posh restaurant, as far as I can tell

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:01 (two years ago) link

Cox and Elder are both lunatics so I voted Faulconer.

It doesn't matter if there's a big star candidate. The big star is the idea of recalling Newsom, which is very attractive for some. Elder seems to have the strongest constituency among the listed candidates.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:04 (two years ago) link

I can see that it makes sense to vote for someone in case he is recalled, but I couldn't do it. Faulconer voted for Trump in 2020, which is enough said. I don't want to add to his votes to bolster his case for running next year

Dan S, Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:17 (two years ago) link

I haven't voted yet, but I'll probably go for Faulconer. Elder is leading in the question #2 polls, and I'd hate to see him get it.

Even if Newsom is booted (through Dem sloth), I don't think whichever Repub wins will get anywhere near enough of a boost to win in 2022.

nickn, Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:21 (two years ago) link

Supermajorities for, what, 5 years and they’ve just sat around and done nothing about a recall process that can only hurt them.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:33 (two years ago) link

Even voting for a Green candidate (with a "no" on recall) would be better than leaving it blank. It shows support for the progressive side.

nickn, Thursday, 19 August 2021 03:08 (two years ago) link

that was my thinking, but I couldn't imagine it registering in any way, and I didn't want to acknowledge the legitimacy of the recall by voting for someone else

Dan S, Thursday, 19 August 2021 03:25 (two years ago) link

since i moved to this stupid state in 2002

consider approx. 47 of the alternatives tho

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 19 August 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link

just sayin

- go to Lowe’s
- buy a 20” box fan
- buy four 20x30” Filterete 1900 filters (the blue ones)
- buy wide painters tape (any color but blue matches nicely)
- make a box out of the filters (arrows pointing in)
- tape the box fan to the top of the filter box, air blowing upward pic.twitter.com/0IbxBKmUw8

— Burrito Justice (@burritojustice) August 20, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 20 August 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link

(although the real thing is still in stock for now, and probably doesn't cost a lot more than that contraption)

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 20 August 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

About to say.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 August 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

CA Superior Court with a Friday night bombshell: Prop 22 can't be enforced because of the clause that required 7/8 of the state legislature to support any amendments (h/t @veenadubal) pic.twitter.com/pPW5zJf0q3

— o...k (@kateconger) August 21, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 21 August 2021 01:03 (two years ago) link

looool they fucked up their drafting, classic boner

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Saturday, 21 August 2021 01:07 (two years ago) link

Cheered at that boner tbh; now suck it up and exploit your workers a bit less

sarahell, Sunday, 22 August 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link

Not just california but this seems as good a place as any to share this observation. Portland this weekend, Los Angeles last.

There is political street violence somewhere on the west coast pretty much every weekend now

— Julia Carrie Wong (@juliacarriew) August 23, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 23 August 2021 05:01 (two years ago) link

I can't believe anyone voted for Falcouner, wtf. Vote for some nobody, that at least takes a vote away from the dangerous 4 (Falcouner, Elder, Cox and Jenner). Why on earth would you contribute to their totals?

akm, Monday, 23 August 2021 15:37 (two years ago) link

vote no on recall, but newsom's delegation of california's vaccination program to a donor after based on a no-bid contract was obviously a bad idea and should disqualify him from a second democratic nomination: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/22/private-consultants-vaccination-drive-outsourced/.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Monday, 23 August 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

Why on earth would you contribute to their totals?

Is there another candidate on the list with better qualifications who also has a chance of winning? I didn't see one. To me it's a choice between being stabbed in the leg vs shot in the heart and I choose leg.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 23 August 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link

Makes sense. I didn't see one either and he would be better than Elder. I just couldn't do it

Dan S, Monday, 23 August 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link

Paffrath was in second place a couple days ago (by a good ways) so you could at least pick a Dem as the backup for question #1 going "yes."

nickn, Monday, 23 August 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link

he would be a complete joke and a total embarrassment for the state, but at least he (hopefully, who knows) wouldn't appoint a republican senator if Dianne Feinstein croaks

Dan S, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link

Agree, but less of an embarrassment than Elder getting in.

nickn, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 00:13 (two years ago) link

I am usually very pragmatic about elections, but it's hard to be about this one

Dan S, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 01:21 (two years ago) link

Promising

Amid increasing scrutiny over his treatment of women and calls for his withdrawal from the race, California Republican gubernatorial candidate Larry Elder is shaking up his campaign team and hired a new campaign manager, POLITICO has learned https://t.co/gn53sOBhga

— POLITICO (@politico) August 23, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 03:53 (two years ago) link

Vote no but my guitar player Adam Papagan is running so vote for him too! Meet Kevin is a piece of shit youtube grifter landlord scum.

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 03:59 (two years ago) link

I moved to San Diego right before the Gray Davis recall election and my roommate decided she wanted to throw her name in the ring. She paid more of the rent than I did, so that made me her go-to signature getter. It still felt like a shitty thing to ask. None of the people who I asked to sign her petition were remotely amused. I gave up after a torturous and embarrassing afternoon trudging up and down University Ave.

peace, man, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 11:16 (two years ago) link

promising (the point here is not that democrats are turning out early, they always do, it's that this electorate doesn't look different from 2020)

The current partisan breakdown of returned ballots in the California Recall is about the same as it was at an equivalent point in 2020:

2021 Recall (8/23): 58% D, 20% R, 22% Other
2020 General Election (10/12): 57% D, 21% R, 22% Otherhttps://t.co/cJobEXBeqp

— Ryan Matsumoto (@ryanmatsumoto1) August 23, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link

not sure if she was ever seriously in contention for VP, but i've heard her mentioned for feinstein's seat, so this would be interesting

NEW: @KarenBassTweets is "seriously considering" a campaign for Mayor of Los Angeles. Says she has been "humbled and really honored" by people encouraging her to run. (#DraftBass)

We also talked CA recall + @AAVREP_ work mobilizing Black voters. Coming soon for @NPR @KPCC @LAist

— Libby Denkmann (@libdenk) August 31, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 18:43 (two years ago) link

Replacement Ballot
(R) Elder 27%
(R) Cox 6%
(D) Paffrath 6%
(D) McGowan 6%
(D) Baade 5%
(R) Kiley 5%
(D) Ross 5%
(R) Faulconer 5%
Others 3% or less

Faulconer's not even close. Mea culpa!

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link

hmm

Newsom won't be recalled, chill out folks. https://t.co/l9cCWTSEFn

— Noah Smith πŸ‡ (@Noahpinion) August 31, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 22:31 (two years ago) link

Is Noah Smith a Nate Silver alias?

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link

no i think he's like a shit ezra klein

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link

Do we still have eviction moratorium?

sarahell, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

Maybe?

COVID-19 Tenant Relief Act (AB 832)

On June 28, 2021, the Governor signed a bill that extends the protections in AB 3088 and SB 91 through September 30, 2021 and includes some additional protections. The time in which landlords may not evict tenants for nonpayment of rent if those tenants have delivered to their landlord a declaration of COVID-19-related financial distress within 15 days of being served with a notice to quit was extended to September 30, 2021. For notices to quit based on rent due between September 1, 2020 and the new end date of the protections, September 30, 2021, tenants’ time to pay the required 25% of the total amount of rent due was extended to September 30, 2021. The provisions regarding the rental assistance program were expanded, to provide that for qualified tenants, 100% of the amounts due to the landlord would be paid.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link

You know, folks have been (rightly, imho) pointing out what a dangerous decision Newsom made not having a backup, but it occurs to me that no one has pointed out how dangerous the R's strategy was. The decision on the R side to not endorse a specific candidate clearly increased the chance of a recall success, but as we can see in the polls it eliminated the possibility of a competent candidate. It's clear that the R's had no plan for seriously governing at all (which, I know, is a recurring pattern).

fajita seas, Thursday, 2 September 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

Newsom isn't going to get recalled if the latest polls are any indication.

"Seems like he's being recalled for eating at a posh restaurant, as far as I can tell"

that is absolutely it, plus anger at his 'response to covid' which these days people are rating highly; it's a minority of people who are still fucking pissed about last year's lockdowns. Newsom is a dipstick with absolutely terrible instincts for optics, but he is not very bad at actual policy and governance, so hopefully this situation knocked a little sense into him, but I doubt it.

akm, Thursday, 2 September 2021 23:37 (two years ago) link

now we can all hope Feinstein retires after this recall is over but I also doubt that will happen

akm, Thursday, 2 September 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link

he is not very bad at actual policy and governance

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π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 3 September 2021 00:10 (two years ago) link

that phrase could be read different ways -- either as "kinda good actually" or as "he sucks but he's not completely awful"

sarahell, Sunday, 5 September 2021 02:59 (two years ago) link

I still can't imagine we could end up with Larry fucking Elder. I can't believe it will happen.

And your cynicism about it caek is very off-putting

Dan S, Sunday, 5 September 2021 03:14 (two years ago) link

yes you've said before.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Sunday, 5 September 2021 03:22 (two years ago) link

I appreciate your not reacting angrily to my comment, sorry, I'm just so disgusted by the world right now

Dan S, Sunday, 5 September 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link


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