And disc 2 has three tracks from the lost album
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Monday, 16 August 2021 22:29 (two years ago) link
Spotify has xpost Live At The Old Waldorf---and not Live At The Academy, but that's much more affordable, at least as a download (maybe free, if I keep looking). Also has a good selection of Tom albums ---is Flash Light the most recent?
― dow, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link
(xpost because that's the Rhino Handmade Ltd.Ed.CD/download, both now OOP)
― dow, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 00:50 (two years ago) link
Live at the Academy is available on Spotify, but appears under a different Television:
https://open.spotify.com/album/4qnBkw3UpZhel1P5zSXM2e?si=OQ81e3fjSriG1guDfH-qkw&dl_branch=1
― Captain Beefart (PBKR), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 00:53 (two years ago) link
Portland 1978 is also worth seeking - not the best recorded (I'm pretty sure it's an audience recording), but maybe the best show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UxMEp45kf4
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 00:55 (two years ago) link
Xpost - two albums since flash light. The wonder, which I really haven’t warmed to, and then after a long gap Songs And Other Things which is a tad overlong but has a bunch of top shelf material on it (which came across especially well on the ensuing tour)
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 03:33 (two years ago) link
Hey, just found this, sorry if posted before:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKgyjw478B8
― Roffle Tolhurst (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 August 2021 13:46 (two years ago) link
man what i wouldn't give for an entire pro-shot video of Television in 1978.
― tylerw, Thursday, 19 August 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link
Yeah.
― Roffle Tolhurst (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 August 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link
I have a fond memory of seeing the charming indie-pop band Small Factory do a sound check back in 1994 or so, and when the sound guy asked them to play all together they out of nowhere busted out a dead-on cover of iirc "See No Evil."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 August 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link
From the Richard Hell thread, a news update from his official site:
JANUARY 2022: There's now up an astounding video from 1974 of the original Television lineup, playing Tom Verlaine's "Hard on Love" on a tiny stage in a New York club (not CBGB), when Richard was not only in the band, but singing and writing many of the songs and heavily influencing the group's style. This period lasted about six months before Verlaine had fully succeeded in changing the direction of the band, dropping Hell's songs from the setlist, insisting that band members stand still on stage, and reverting to ordinary hipster thrift-shop streetwear, rather than the various stylistic concepts Hell had conceived. No denying that Verlaine is stunning in the clip though. What a band. There's speculation that the gig is from late May at the Cafe Wha? in Greenwich Village. (The band's very first gig was in March.) What we do know is that John Lennon saw it in September because he remarks on it during an interview in Melody Maker as he watches it on local TV that month (Sept. 14 issue). This is also the version of the band that initiated CBGB, thrilled Malcolm McLaren and Patti Smith, and made Robert Quine think that perhaps there was a place for him in rock and roll after all. You can see the clip (and read what Lennon said, in the uploader's intro text) at YouTube. Pair it with the veryearly Ork loft rehearsal tapesand you can see what the excitement was about in 1974, and where punk began...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLlhYiN4gmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcGEcB5M4es
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link
pretty amazing stuff! "They sound terrible but they’re OK!"
― tylerw, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 22:57 (two years ago) link
Ironic that Lennon, in his appreciation, was effectively ahead of the game.
He'd had someone make a tape of stuff, the person had put what he'd asked for (old stuff mainly) on one side, and on side 2 had added B52s, Talking Heads, etc - but he'd taken no notice of it. a year or so later he thought about it but had lost the tape so had to ask his fried to make it up again for him..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 10:40 (two years ago) link
friend, not fried.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p98PjtSfNWo
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 13:14 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8j8SECzULw
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 13:16 (two years ago) link
I was reading that William Orbit interview on the other thread, and he made an obvious but still good observation, that there are entire eras of music and various scenes that were barely even photographed, let alone filmed. Now, of course, everything is photographed and filmed. But when you see stuff like this, or that Eno doc, or things of their ilk, it's almost like seeing the Patterson–Gimlin Bigfoot film.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:02 (two years ago) link
Have been reminded recently of what a shame it is that Pere Ubu don't appear to have had anything filmed before Birdies in Urgh! A Music War. Just would have been something else if teh art scene in Cleveland included film makers who wanted to document the scene and capture the band when onetime possible Television member peter Laughner was onboard or over the next couple of years.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 20:35 (two years ago) link
Yeah - massive shame if no footage survives of singles/modern/dub era ubu
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Friday, 21 January 2022 00:04 (two years ago) link
I've seen (and enjoyed) Ubu live - but something about the music of that era makes it seem appropriate that their art is audio-only. Seeing film of them would be like dubbing sound on a silent movie... it was meant to documented exclusively sonically.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 21 January 2022 01:24 (two years ago) link
We will be touring as a trio this November. Myself on guitar and vocals; David Leonard on bass and vocals and Kevin Tooley on drums and vocals. It will be great fun and I very much looks forward to it, We will again be touring the North East, hoping to get to the west coast later— Richard Lloyd (@RichardLloyd206) September 7, 2022
― dow, Thursday, 8 September 2022 01:52 (one year ago) link
I love, love this band to bits. I've never seen them live, one of my biggest regrets.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 28 January 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link
Seeing bad, bad rumours on the internet right now :(
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 28 January 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link
Yeah. Let's see.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 January 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link
is this a trustworthy news site?
https://snbc13.com/tom-verlaine-marquee-moon-popular-singer-guitarist-has-died-death-obituary/
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link
i don't have fb, but maybe someone with access can confirm rosenbloom's account?
obviously tough news.
― "i'm grateful." (Austin), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link
https://louderthanwar.com/tom-verlaine-dies-at-73/
― sleeve, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I know Lee a bit from back in the day. He's definitely one of those "in the know" music types.
― henry s, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link
I don't know this person but apparently a credible source :(
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cn-Kmjaul80/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link
Fuck
ugh, looking like it's true
― tylerw, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link
Marquee Moon was one of those records I'd read about years before I heard it, one of the rare ones that not only lived up to the hype but exceeded it in ways I couldn't have imagined. Changed so much about how I thought about rock bands and how to construct music.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link
I don't know what more you could ever hope to achieve using the standard drums/bass/guitar format
Never even considered the possibility of him dying
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link
My intro? The eponymous 1992 album: a minor masterpiece of precision. I heard Verlaine and Lloyd's duels and thought, "Who the hell are these people?" An ideal preparation for Marquee Moon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeIoKtnPBiQ
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:25 (one year ago) link
they canceled a tour last year because of "health problems" but I didn't dare think this would happen ...
― tylerw, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link
I’m just playing Venus on repeat now
― Mule, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jan/02/robert-forster-venus-by-television-is-the-most-perfect-song-of-all-time
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link
marquee moon was one of those instant classics that simply sounded fantastic on first listen (+put a lot of the contemporary stuff i was into at the time in its proper place) and still greets like an old friend when i hear it these days. maybe adventure even more.
― "i'm grateful." (Austin), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link
I love the Adventure stuff on Live At the Old Waldorf, such a great document of the band live
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
yes, absolutely
― sleeve, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:37 (one year ago) link
the early demo stuff collected on the Poor Circulation boot CD is incredible as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tMSNmKV1sk
― sleeve, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link
I’m not sure what to look for on FB, but Lee Rosenbloom has an RIP.
― The Big O RLY (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link
First television song I ever heard was that amazing clip of them doing 'Foxhole' on the OGWT, that made me want to buy a guitar like nothing else i'd ever seen. Adventure was always precious to me because of that tune
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
Jonathan Paley as well, in a Verlaine group on FB
― Mule, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
Xp
50 minutes ago. Cites a “close family friend” as source.(xp)
― The Big O RLY (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
Man, this sucks. Pretty much everything this guy did after the first Television album was almost an afterthought, certainly overlooked, but what more did he have to prove? It's a blessing and a curse to start your career with an album that helps change the course of music. RIP.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link
So weird the way you clue into death. I saw someone had put up a "Marquee Moon"-related post on FB. Then a second one, but I still didn't make the connection. Then a Television thread at the top of ILM and it was clear.
― clemenza, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/arts/music/tom-verlaine-influential-guitarist-and-songwriter-dies-at-73.html
― nostormo, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link