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Bob Dylan sued for allegedly grooming, sexually abusing 12-year-old girl in 1965

This is a complicated situation, defined as grooming but with no sexual intent, that will probably create more definitive boundaries between performers and younger fans.

In light of the allegations against Alice Ripley, a conversation about interactions between theatre artists and fans has erupted online.

But there are aspects to this story that many seem to be missing, especially within the theatre communities.

— OnStage Blog (@OnstageBlog) August 24, 2021

I love Alice Ripley. this is rough :(

spend any time on social media following any kind of celebrity and the mental instability of lots of young people who interact with those celebrities will make you shudder. This is probably more pronounced these days with legions of weirdo 'stans' who frankly should be jettisoned into the sun; but even back then, from what I just read, Ripley should have known better and not engaged.

Alice Ripley seems to have exercised very bad judgment and relished the attention of these young “fans,” but “grooming without sexual intent” seems like a weird charge

I’m glad the victims came forward though. This is a more ambiguous type of abuse but one that is probably common.

i've been following the story and that was a really interesting article that helped clarify a lot of questions I had.

Alice Ripley seems to have exercised very bad judgment and relished the attention of these young “fans,” but “grooming without sexual intent” seems like a weird charge

― treeship., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 00:52 (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

In the initial accusations against Ripley, she was accused of grooming, which is a term commonly used for manipulative behaviors that abusers use to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught.

I think this makes sense as a definition of grooming that doesn't necessarily have to include sexual intent, it could cover e.g. getting someone to keep stolen goods in their home, or lend large sums of money - there is an ulterior motive to the efforts to form an emotional relationship, and the motive is to get the other person to do something damaging to themselves that they wouldn't otherwise be willing to do - but I don't think the article really makes a good case that this is what's happening in this situation?

Did Alice Ripley allegedly groom these young people in hopes of sexually abusing them? It doesn’t appear that way. Did she apparently use the tool of grooming for other purposes with these fans? That’s an entirely different discussion.

what exactly are the "other purposes" that Ripley was allegedly using the tool of grooming for? what was her ulterior motive? the article implies that she formed these relationships with fans to gratify her ego, but that seems hazy as a justification for calling it grooming. In the definition above the 'abuse' is delineated as something distinct from the 'grooming', the grooming is to facilitate the abuse, but in this case it seems like the accusers are arguing that what they call the grooming was in itself 'abusive'?

Yeah “grooming” might be the wrong word. It sounds like she might be emotionally immature and talked to these kids as if they were her peers. I can definitely see how they felt violated by this as she was ignoring boundaries.

the article makes it pretty clear that she would unceremoniously 'dump' them after long, emotionally intimate relationships. imo both the emotionally intimate relationships and the dumping are abuses of the power she holds as an adult over children ffs.

and when i say abuses i mean like, proper, full-on emotional damage that it could take years to recover from

Yeah as I said earlier it is a kind of abuse—just one we haven’t seen discussed much in the metoo era.

play whatever sick ego games you want with other adults - though you probably shouldn't! - but imagining my, i dunno 13-y-o as having identity questions and then latching onto a revered celebrity who actually texts them and invites them over, it's unthinkable really

Ugh

finished the Daily Beast article just now, seems pretty clear that Ripley is not being truthful in her denial that she only met fans briefly at the stage door or very occasionally had dinners with them, when DB has seen photos of her with one of these women in San Diego and SF (the woman lived in NYC). I was thinking about what kind of pathology made sense of this and decided that Ripley just sounds like a terrible person, no pathology needed.

Ron Jeremy indicted on 34 counts of sexual assault.

Seems like this should spark a reckoning with the porn industry. There are massive abuses there but people don’t like to think about it.

Rose McGowan has gone over the edge

Larry Elder presser with Rose McGowan kicking off now pic.twitter.com/Hae9zUeogH

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 12, 2021

Yeah I shared that in the monthly politics thread yesterday, so unexpected. So her argument seems to be that too many Democrats ignored her claims and accusations (which is totally in the realm of possibility) that she has no choice but to now be a Republican and stump for mini-Trumps that have been credibly accused of sexual harassment?

*sigh*

https://www.pastemagazine.com/comedy/saturday-night-live/horatio-sanz-sexual-assault-snl/?fbclid=IwAR0LhQwYtBmr9RqkiQOQfXfpYjzbdigW96AFg4Ii4rlriTE0fxYKZbyLYjA

https://www.pastemagazine.com/comedy/saturday-night-live/horatio-sanz-sexual-assault-snl/

Sorry
https://www.pastemagazine.com/comedy/saturday-night-live/horatio-sanz-sexual-assault-snl/

Never mind. Just trying to remove the fbclid. Don't know why it didn't work.

ugh gross

it's not including the slash in your link for some reason

In addition to Michaels, Shoemaker, and Fallon, the potential cast members around to witness Sanz’s conduct would have included Will Ferrell, Ana Gasteyer, Darrell Hammond, Chris Kattan, Tracy Morgan, Chris Parnell, Molly Shannon, Rachel Dratch, Tina Fey, Jerry Minor, Maya Rudolph, Amy Poehler, Dean Edwards, Seth Meyers, and Jeff Richards.

lmao

Now I’m reading this in Don Pardo’s voice always

Reading everything in Don Pardo’s voice = people who have figured out how to live

well everything appears to be back to normal

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/nyregion/christopher-belter-rape-sentence.html

nothing much seemed to happen with that horatio sanz story, did it? maybe because he's frankly not famous enough to suffer a real career impact at this point.

silby's wish came true, at least.

Noted Harvey lookalike Jeff Garlin leaves The Goldbergs after complaints about on-set behavior.

https://deadline.com/2021/12/jeff-garlin-exit-the-goldbergs-hr-investigations-season-9-1234892030/?

In his VF interview, Garlin dismissed accusations of being verbally offensive by saying that he is just being “silly” as part of his shtick as a comedian. He did note his penchant for dropping the word “vagina” on the set.

According to a source on the show, a camera assistant made a complaint to her department head about Garlin’s use of the word. After the actor found out, he reportedly put his hands around her and kept saying “vagina” in her face over and over again. Overall, Garlin’s go-to jokes that a number of people on the show found offensive were talking about grandma’s vagina, balls and brassier, a co-worker said. Additionally, he would not address some longtime female crew members by name, using instead nicknames that some also considered offensive.

It's pretty weird that the writer said "balls" without quotes

grandma's balls
used to hand me
piece of candy

he was talking about whose grandma? his?

Grandma’s balls got run over by a reindeer

that show is so fucking terrible, maybe it was his negative abusive behavior to blame all along

how does one explain the steady solidity of Curb then?

Chris Noth

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/chris-noth-accused-of-sexual-assault-1235063596/

Saw some discussion of how a general accusation of "sexual assault" allows for some weaselly wiggle room. What Noth is being accused of is outright violent *rape.*

New accusations against Bryan Singer.

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/bryan-singer-blake-stuerman-1235136986/

no charges were ever brought against toback????

yes all my posts today are based on real names disallowed by the Spelling Bee

Sion Sono

https://deadline.com/2022/04/japanese-director-sion-sono-accused-of-sexual-harassment-1234994873/

Cary Fukunaga

Acclaimed Director Cary Fukunaga Accused of Grooming Young Women for Sex https://t.co/86h9z8eUZR pic.twitter.com/HtdPhEZ8Lk

— Jezebel (@Jezebel) May 9, 2022

(important to note that accusers here are all of legal age, there isn't much I would actually call 'abuse' here, and I also assume all people in Hollywood behave this way)

The parents of an 18-year-old from North Dakota have obtained a protective order against “The Flash” star Ezra Miller.

But the teen’s parents and law enforcement are having a hard time locating Miller to serve the actor with the order. https://t.co/B89xAGTEGx

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) June 10, 2022

Presumably in restraints somewhere on the Warner Brothers lot.

for a while this spring all you had to do if you were looking for e. miller was camp out at my local a few nights until the flash showed up to try and fight you. haven’t had any encounters in the past month or two but have heard a lot of grim gossip about this relationship— a small and sad part of what’s lately felt like an accelerated wiring of this island into the international lawless playboy circuit. (for the state more broadly, of course, it’s always been a specialty.)