"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

"there was a Loach interview on 5 live the other night and I felt quite sorry for him to some extent, but why bother remaining in the party?"

Whatever his reasons he wants to remain in the party. One reason could be that Starmer is v much a lame duck, you wouldn't give him much more than 18 months in the post.

fair enough and he is a high profile member. Was just thinking he's left before - possibly a couple of times. There is also a good chance it won't be worth re-joining again in his lifetime.

Ken said in the interview Kieth wants a smaller party, that is Murdoch friendly + funded by billionaires - can't argue with that. He's doing well with two of them already, once they've changed the voting rules - which I'm not sure how this happens but it has been hinted at - then there will be literally nothing to stay and fight for?

Thing is you get to meet ppl that have been in the party since the early 80s no breaks. Thatcher, Blair, with Foot and Corbyn on either side. Internally members have left but quite a lot still remain in it.

Lots of dead years for many, if they are not kicked out.

the way i feel about it is that the party is quite a lot bigger than just starmer and his cronies. not all of it good mind! but a lot of it. i pay every month for that stuff to still have a budget. even if my own CLP has been banned from meeting lol

Some familiar figures are pushing the absurd and defamatory claim that Ken Loach supports Holocaust denial. The story of this bogus talking-point, which relies upon multiple layers of falsehood and guilt-by-association, makes for a revealing case-study. 1/

— Daniel Finn (@DanFinn95) February 11, 2021

A tweet from 11.2.2021.

Tracer: I still pay for it also, maybe just because I still haven't bothered to stop ... but I'm not sure that I see the good things that you mention. For a while I justified being in the party as 'supporting JC' (against KS, et al), but now JC isn't even allowed to be a Labour MP ... It's harder and harder to find any good rationale for our being in a party that is apparently profoundly opposed to our own views.

Does you and me being in the party help Zarah Sultana? If so, it could be worthwhile ... But we're not her constituents. Maybe the most I can say is that I vote in internal bureaucratic elections for people who support her. But no doubt those people will be expelled on false pretences if somehow elected!

There is now a humanitarian emergency in Afghanistan. We must urgently meet our obligations to Afghan refugees, while learning the lessons of two decades of devastating war and failure. pic.twitter.com/4RURLNRnph

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) August 16, 2021

You don't want to play Sir Keir Starmer at law.

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) August 16, 2021

Alpaca gets a stay of execution all thanks to Kieth!

A leadership challenge cannot be far behind.

Labour is shedding 90 jobs due to huge financial pressures but staff being told with less workers they can turn things round with new ways of working to 'prepare and deliver elections'. That's if they can work out the below... pic.twitter.com/XgeBAIIM5J

— Kate Proctor (@Kate_M_Proctor) August 17, 2021

Hell yes.

Just a bit of agile.

None of this is difficult to decipher if you have worked in a mid-to-large sized company since about 2016, tbf, but excited to see what the rapid prototyping means in practice. Perhaps empowering Wes Streeting to keep making policy on the fly in TV interviews and issuing a string of increasingly elaborate corrections afterwards.

I feel like even if I was fluent in bullshit corporate-speak I'd be scratching my head in puzzlement at most of them

I swear if someone spoke in that language to me I wouldn't be able to not tell them to fuck off.

agile ceremonies is when the high-wire artists are married there in the big top and the vicar is also on her own trapeze iirc

"adopt a product-mindset" is when Labour canvassers also double up as a door-to-door Kleeneeze salesforce

'Appen they love an agile ceremony in the Red Wall.

Has the irony of this classic do-more-with-less bullshit management pivot struck the “Labour” party yet? I’m guessing no.

They are clueless in a way I wouldn't have thought credible but... evidence of the old glazzies.

Lord Barwell reminds us he is a thing

“The lesson for Europeans is clear. Whoever is president, the US is unlikely to offer the same support that it used to in parts of the world where its vital interests are not involved.

“Europeans are going to have to develop the capability to intervene without US support. That’s not going to be cheap. And the EU and Britain are going to have to work out how to cooperate on this because we face the same threats.”

Excited for Luke akehurst scrum master

— orseti (@orseti3) August 17, 2021

-'Concerned' about increased risk of terror.
-‘Completely wrong’ for PM and Dominic Raab to be on holiday.
-It was ‘obvious’ we were heading toward very serious situation.
-Taliban should NOT be recognised as Afghanistan's legitimate govt.
-‘Deeply concerned’ Biden doesn’t recognise wider consequences of action.

the Kieth-master 2001

Starmer S1E6 - The Manager Frets

Excited to find out who Labour will regard as the government of Afghanistan if, as looks inevitable, the US recognises the one currently in place.

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As the Labour leader made his way from the train station, up past the Grand and onto Dudley Street, before popping into Bilston Street nick for a chat with officers, one thing was immediately noticeable.

And it was that hardly anybody seemed to care.

Sir Keir's appearance was greeted with complete disinterest.

There was nary a murmur in his direction from any member of the public he wandered past. No requests for selfies were made and no one called his name out.

To illustrate the point, a woman approached the entourage with her phone raised, then immediately lowered it when she saw what was in front of her, disappointment etched across her face.

please clap

Kieth going hard on the neocon dream today in Parliament, truly cynical, murderous stuff

this will be very exciting for him, another re-boot for him as a conviction neocon. Gloves off.. launch the drones

Risk assessments for refugees

Wild to see so many people who have presented themselves as the serious foreign policy pragmatists, concerned with achievable outcomes aligned with international partnerships, over the last few years flip to ‘why can’t Boris Johnson fix this?’ and ‘what if we just said the Taliban isn’t the real government?’.

it's only at times like that ghoulish Labour hawks like Jarvis and Benn truly feel alive.

Tory MP Desmond Swayne appears to suggest Afghan refugees are cowards for "queuing at the airport" rather than joining "the resistance."

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) August 18, 2021

That guy is like a pantomime villain.

Oh no he isn't

lol

Powerful speech from Barnsley MP and veteran Dan Jarvis, 'we tried to break the cycle of war, to give hope to women and girls, we tried to give Afghans a different life...the catastrophic failure of the international community and brutality of the Taliban has snatched that away'

it's quite rare anything this cunt says makes any sense, they should x-ray his brain to see if there is a crayon lodged in there. But nobody will challenge this nonsense because he "fought for the colours" and they'd get shouted down by all sides.

Increasing abstraction of things being fought for, from queen and country to the flag to... colours? Anyway, turns out that these colouts do run lol

We tried to break the cycle of war by um sending in the troops

breaking your cycle of migraines by drilling a hole in your skull

Theresa May appears to be criticising Johnson for not putting together an alliance of countries to occupy Afghanistan without help from the US.

breaking your cycle of migraines by drilling a hole in your skull

― calzino, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 13:52 (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

woo >> war

“Was our intelligence really so poor? Was our understanding of the Afghan government so weak? Was our knowledge on the ground so inadequate? Or did we just think we had to follow the United States and on a wing and a prayer it would be all right on the night?”

Theresa May as Principal Skinner

we are not crying you and them are crying

Johnson told the Commons events in Afghanistan had unfolded faster “than even the Taliban predicted”, but this had not caught the government “unawares”.

I'm glad that the mother of parliaments is back to explore all the possibilities of responding to the situation

cute URL

https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/journalist-john-ware-defamed-by-labour-activist-on-jeremy-vine-show-judge-says

Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi, the media officer for the Jewish Voice for Labour group, said: “The journalist who did that so-called investigation has a terrible record of Islamophobia, far-right politics, he’s been disciplined at – BBC has had to apologise.”

Vine attempted to defend his colleague, telling Wimborne-Idrissi to “hang on a minute” and “now I have to get him on”, adding: “…the idea you just take down the journalist now, that’s kinda desperate isn’t it?”

Possible defences include truth

Right, so that's Jessie Ware's father, I recognize him now.