Sorry, my damn eyes, of course.
― Soundtracked by an ecojazz mixtape (Tom D.), Monday, 16 August 2021 10:40 (two years ago) link
"it's hard to judge numbers, as always on Twitter, but I keep coming across them, the comments on this post have loads for example"
Some are saying the US is the invader but that by itself isn't anything. Mostly it's despair at the Afghans who were trained by the US or just sadness at the future for women by n the country.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 August 2021 10:56 (two years ago) link
replying to that that "the US is the invader" is not nothing
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 16 August 2021 10:59 (two years ago) link
It's not a 'tankie' position by itself.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 August 2021 11:04 (two years ago) link
Germany brought back 22,500 litres of beer, wine and champagne from Afghanistan. Meanwhile people were only given permission if they worked directly for the Bundeswehr in the last two years. No subcontractors, or older translators pic.twitter.com/jE51NmrrEe— James Jackson (@derJamesJackson) August 16, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 August 2021 11:05 (two years ago) link
The USA took 130,000 Vietnamese refugees in April 1975, so taking 170,000 Afghan refugees SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING@JoeBiden @SecBlinken https://t.co/hCDL0bR47j— Viet Thanh Nguyen (@viet_t_nguyen) August 16, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 August 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/2uEvobBijC— Eli Clifton (@EliClifton) August 16, 2021
― StanM, Monday, 16 August 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link
🤦♀️
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 August 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link
Here are liberals, caring about women.
#BREAKING Macron vows EU initiative to protect against migrant flows from Afghanistan pic.twitter.com/qstcbkmAyI— AFP News Agency (@AFP) August 16, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 August 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link
well all they're going to do is move to poor neighbourhoods and FLAUNT their HEADSCARVES in everyone's FACES and refuse to learn French so i mean come on am i right people n'est-ce pas??
it's fucking disgusting
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 August 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link
this piece of shit needs to die now
― Left, Monday, 16 August 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link
not the only one either, death to europe
― Left, Monday, 16 August 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link
maybe shouldn't have posted that, not because it's not true or anything
― Left, Monday, 16 August 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link
just jokes, but couldn't resist:
when they knock on Left's front doorhow are they gonna comewith their hand on their keyboardor the trigger of their gun
― Captain Beefart (PBKR), Monday, 16 August 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 August 2021 bookmarkflaglink
It's the future.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 August 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link
well, one future. it's the one Sanpaku's been prophesying for some time.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 August 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link
guardian explains it all
The Guardian explaining Taliban to the zoomers. Strong distopia vibes. pic.twitter.com/IFiVGKwpi1— Tadej Štrok (@tadejstrok) August 16, 2021
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 16 August 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link
^ All very factual, but I'd quibble with the statement that 'in August, as western troops began to leave the Taliban started taking over territories'. They already controlled about 90% of the territory of Afghanistan when the summer started. They were simply mopping up the last remaining military resistance, which was nearly non-existent once foreign troops left.
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Monday, 16 August 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link
started assembling a list of all the people I blame for the situation in Afghanistan. started off small with Reagan, both George Bushes, Brezhnev, Andropov, the CIA, the KGB, ISI, the Pakistani Army, Dostum, Hekmatyar, all of the Haqqanis, Osama bin Laden, Tony Blair,— donna respirator (@AliceAvizandum) August 16, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 August 2021 21:11 (two years ago) link
Didn’t the Carter Admin start arming the mujahedeen?
― Bo Burzum (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 16 August 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link
the british army was instigating coups there as far back as the 19th century iirc. it’s been an almost unbroken chain of war and meddling. (that’s not to de-emphasize the responsibility this current crop of meddlers have.)
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 August 2021 21:16 (two years ago) link
What a vermin
We went to Afghanistan almost 20 years ago with clear goals: get those who attacked us on September 11, 2001—and make sure al Qaeda could not use Afghanistan as a base from which to attack us again.We did that—a decade ago.Our mission was never supposed to be nation building.— President Biden (@POTUS) August 16, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 August 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
was listening to some ghoul on the bbc earlier talking about how bad this is in terms of reputational damage to the Biden administration/US prestige _(´ཀ`」 ∠)_
― calzino, Monday, 16 August 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link
The Russian Czarist government was also meddling in Afghanistan in the 19th century. The British called the imperialist struggle between them and Russians over control of central Asia "The Great Game".
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Monday, 16 August 2021 21:43 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMcmDTX1JwQ
― Roffle Tolhurst (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 August 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link
This is from the now former head of the Afghan central bank
3/There were multiple rumors that directions to not fight were somehow coming from above. This has been repeated by Atta Noor and Ismael Khan.Seems difficult to believe, but there remains a suspicion as to why ANSF left posts so quickly. There is something left unexplained https://t.co/1VnNl7QpRI— Ajmal Ahmady (@aahmady) August 16, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 August 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link
The terrorists keep posting Ws!
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Monday, 16 August 2021 21:53 (two years ago) link
they have automatic rifles https://t.co/b82sAbP06x— Owl-Avenger (@lionel_trolling) August 16, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 August 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link
I don't think the Biden speech was bad? It's rare for a president to acknowledge failure and piss off the Beltway national security establishment. It was more than Ild have gotten from Obama, who believed the generals.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 August 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link
In the 19th century Afghanistan was seen as a potential soft underbelly for a Russian incursion into British India and that was a bigger curse for a poor agrarian country in that region back then than having shitloads of oil/mineral wealth in the 20th century.
― calzino, Monday, 16 August 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link
It's rare for a president to acknowledge failure
But in the tweet he is considering it a success.
― nashwan, Monday, 16 August 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link
It was implicit in the tweet that not recognizing the completion of the mission "a decade ago" was a failure.
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Monday, 16 August 2021 22:22 (two years ago) link
I thought the Biden speech was decent, if a little ineloquent. But maybe it's just refreshing to hear the 'buck stops here' stuff again after the trump debacle
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 16 August 2021 22:42 (two years ago) link
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Monday, August 16, 2021 3:22 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yes, when he was vice president
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 August 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link
Worth noting that while American media has coughed up every hack general and NSA spook decrying what's happened, the American public hasn't budged. Opposition to Middle East policy and perhaps foreign adventures generally is the last remaining bipartisan point of solidarity.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 August 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link
hence Alfred saying it's rare for a president to acknowledge failure
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link
Since he didn't send in a MEF, I'll cut Sleepy Joe some slack.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 00:34 (two years ago) link
Please RETWEET if you agree that America owes a debt of loyalty and honor to those Afghans who served as translators and aides to US forces in Afghanistan over the last 20 years, and that we must grant them visas and evacuate them from the country immediately to save their lives. pic.twitter.com/60HpASqWRy— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) August 14, 2021
I'm surprised this dumbass didn't make it a Minions meme
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 04:48 (two years ago) link
More terrorist videos.
pic.twitter.com/xFYRk2QLl8— Yall hear that (@BloodsareCrips) August 16, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 07:08 (two years ago) link
In Afghanistan we are seeing the reality of what it means to flee. The world changes overnight. You grab what you can and run. If a smuggler says "I can get you to safety" you put your life in his hands and you pay what you can. There is no form to fill and no queue to join.— Satbir Singh 🧡 (@SatbirLSingh) August 16, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 07:29 (two years ago) link
"I don't think the Biden speech was bad? It's rare for a president to acknowledge failure and piss off the Beltway national security establishment."
What about the thousands of Afghan civilians killed? Any thoughts on those?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 07:50 (two years ago) link
Is that part of "The Great Game"?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 07:51 (two years ago) link
the function of this speech isn't a maoist struggle session where 46 fesses up before his accusers to all the wrongs and cruelties of his predecessors and the policies of the war-machine he heads, it's to connect with and firm up the two thirds or so of the US voting public who wanted out, and to begin to shunt some small part of the kneejerk commentariat and the blob so-called in the direction of acknowledging this withdrawal as (i) a fait accompli and (ii) medium-term good not bad
in realpolitik terms the evident ugly downside of this is that even acknowledging let alone dwelling on continued humanitarian issues is instantly to offer up hostages to mission-creep back in, to garrison-think and recapture-and-protect: and we're already hearing these noises, because humanitarian rhetoric has been so deeply invaded and distorted in washington and elsewhere by the all-war-all-the-time factions (who are in some confusion currently but hardly diminished in presence or media access)
there's a case for team biden saying "this is a good speech" exactly (and only?) bcz clear positive audience response helps with this firming-up aspect -- turning the us public a little further away from global adventurism fingers x-ed (well, also i suppose bcz it burns the piss of various anti-isolationist uk melts and ghouls lol, tho i acknowledge this is a v trivial and parochial and shallow concern). basically the bit that's good is him saying something clearly adjacent to "we're bad at this shit and from now on we should cut it out"
― mark s, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 09:58 (two years ago) link
The people who thought Joe Biden gave a great speech are the same people who thought American Beauty was a great movie.— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) August 16, 2021
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 10:00 (two years ago) link
humanitarian rhetoric has been so deeply invaded and distorted in washington and elsewhere by the all-war-all-the-time factions (who are in some confusion currently but hardly diminished in presence or media access)
The most grotesque development of the last twenty years.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 10:02 (two years ago) link
yeah, I have no answer to the current situation but samantha powering our way out of this is not my preferred route
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 August 2021 10:12 (two years ago) link
To acknowledge the thousands of civilians killed and to talk of a plan in place to safeguard Afghans whose lives are in danger so that more aren't killed should be part of the speech or of that tweet instead of nonsense around Afghans not wanting to fight lol.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 10:15 (two years ago) link
Notice anything about this picture of people escaping in a US plane? No women...odd...? https://t.co/VfgbSTHHKE— Polly Toynbee (@pollytoynbee) August 17, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 10:27 (two years ago) link
Massively weird to lie about it.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 10:31 (two years ago) link
today i saluted the afghanistan vet who lives on my floor and said "Suck My Dick Sir! Mission Failed" then went home and dead lifted 300lbs— wint (@dril) August 17, 2021
― calzino, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 10:34 (two years ago) link