What in God's Green Goodness Are We Up To In Afghanistan?

keep coming across tankies on Twitter celebrating this like it's some sort of great victory for anti-imperialism. cunts.

Yes but to have army racists saying 'nothing' to that question in the headline would be good.

I can think of a few good answers but what I will say is that this energy is going nowhere good, and it certainly isn’t going to either generate a better understanding of what happened and why, or the appropriate lessons to draw. pic.twitter.com/QAM2YRgbHQ

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) August 15, 2021

the last Tony Blair comment on Afghanistan was to an armed forces magazine 5 days ago, he's gone remarkably quiet on the subject since.

president of turkmenistan won't get off his phone probably

keep coming across tankies on Twitter celebrating this like it's some sort of great victory for anti-imperialism. cunts.

― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 16 August 2021 bookmarkflaglink

What I'm seeing is that the West should not be directly involved and keep going with the withdrawal and other left wing people are calling on the UK to offer refugees a place here. Now I'm sure there are corners that are almost pro-taliban as much as tweets calling for the UK soldiers to get invade again (I saw one yesterday, it was mocked to shit and deleted in 20 mins) but its not huge numbers on either side.

it's hard to judge numbers, as always on Twitter, but I keep coming across them, the comments on this post have loads for example

This is heart-breaking. Back in 2019, these beautiful Afghan women from Afghanistan's first and only female-only orchestra were full of hope.

As the Taliban have invaded Afghanistan, women like them will be banned from singing. They'll be confined to their homes. pic.twitter.com/OenYV0DcgE

— Masih Alinejad 🏳️ (@AlinejadMasih) August 15, 2021

meanwhile here's something we can all agree on

When BHL was dressed as a mujahideen pic.twitter.com/jcKex7jihc

— Daniel Zamora Vargas (@DanielZamoraV) August 16, 2021

It must be a feature of who you follow or something but I am seeing no such replies. Lots of weird bad takes of all sorts however.

Almost as though 280 characters is insufficient to say anything intelligible on this

The Kabul Airport. pic.twitter.com/FEjWsAkZal

— Tong Bingxue 仝冰雪 (@tongbingxue) August 16, 2021

jfc

"Our brave translators", says the Daily Mail. If my eyes rolled any further they'd roll out of my sockets and down my cheeks.

Sorry, my damn eyes, of course.

"it's hard to judge numbers, as always on Twitter, but I keep coming across them, the comments on this post have loads for example"

Some are saying the US is the invader but that by itself isn't anything. Mostly it's despair at the Afghans who were trained by the US or just sadness at the future for women by n the country.

replying to that that "the US is the invader" is not nothing

It's not a 'tankie' position by itself.

Germany brought back 22,500 litres of beer, wine and champagne from Afghanistan.

Meanwhile people were only given permission if they worked directly for the Bundeswehr in the last two years. No subcontractors, or older translators pic.twitter.com/jE51NmrrEe

— James Jackson (@derJamesJackson) August 16, 2021

The USA took 130,000 Vietnamese refugees in April 1975, so taking 170,000 Afghan refugees SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING@JoeBiden @SecBlinken https://t.co/hCDL0bR47j

— Viet Thanh Nguyen (@viet_t_nguyen) August 16, 2021

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— Eli Clifton (@EliClifton) August 16, 2021

🤦‍♀️

Here are liberals, caring about women.

#BREAKING Macron vows EU initiative to protect against migrant flows from Afghanistan pic.twitter.com/qstcbkmAyI

— AFP News Agency (@AFP) August 16, 2021

well all they're going to do is move to poor neighbourhoods and FLAUNT their HEADSCARVES in everyone's FACES and refuse to learn French so i mean come on am i right people n'est-ce pas??

it's fucking disgusting

this piece of shit needs to die now

not the only one either, death to europe

maybe shouldn't have posted that, not because it's not true or anything

just jokes, but couldn't resist:

when they knock on Left's front door
how are they gonna come
with their hand on their keyboard
or the trigger of their gun

it's fucking disgusting

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 August 2021 bookmarkflaglink

It's the future.

well, one future. it's the one Sanpaku's been prophesying for some time.

guardian explains it all

The Guardian explaining Taliban to the zoomers. Strong distopia vibes. pic.twitter.com/IFiVGKwpi1

— Tadej Štrok (@tadejstrok) August 16, 2021

^ All very factual, but I'd quibble with the statement that 'in August, as western troops began to leave the Taliban started taking over territories'. They already controlled about 90% of the territory of Afghanistan when the summer started. They were simply mopping up the last remaining military resistance, which was nearly non-existent once foreign troops left.

started assembling a list of all the people I blame for the situation in Afghanistan. started off small with Reagan, both George Bushes, Brezhnev, Andropov, the CIA, the KGB, ISI, the Pakistani Army, Dostum, Hekmatyar, all of the Haqqanis, Osama bin Laden, Tony Blair,

— donna respirator (@AliceAvizandum) August 16, 2021

Didn’t the Carter Admin start arming the mujahedeen?

the british army was instigating coups there as far back as the 19th century iirc. it’s been an almost unbroken chain of war and meddling. (that’s not to de-emphasize the responsibility this current crop of meddlers have.)

What a vermin

We went to Afghanistan almost 20 years ago with clear goals: get those who attacked us on September 11, 2001—and make sure al Qaeda could not use Afghanistan as a base from which to attack us again.

We did that—a decade ago.

Our mission was never supposed to be nation building.

— President Biden (@POTUS) August 16, 2021

was listening to some ghoul on the bbc earlier talking about how bad this is in terms of reputational damage to the Biden administration/US prestige _(´ཀ`」 ∠)_

The Russian Czarist government was also meddling in Afghanistan in the 19th century. The British called the imperialist struggle between them and Russians over control of central Asia "The Great Game".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMcmDTX1JwQ

This is from the now former head of the Afghan central bank

3/There were multiple rumors that directions to not fight were somehow coming from above.

This has been repeated by Atta Noor and Ismael Khan.

Seems difficult to believe, but there remains a suspicion as to why ANSF left posts so quickly. There is something left unexplained https://t.co/1VnNl7QpRI

— Ajmal Ahmady (@aahmady) August 16, 2021

The terrorists keep posting Ws!

they have automatic rifles https://t.co/b82sAbP06x

— Owl-Avenger (@lionel_trolling) August 16, 2021

I don't think the Biden speech was bad? It's rare for a president to acknowledge failure and piss off the Beltway national security establishment. It was more than Ild have gotten from Obama, who believed the generals.

In the 19th century Afghanistan was seen as a potential soft underbelly for a Russian incursion into British India and that was a bigger curse for a poor agrarian country in that region back then than having shitloads of oil/mineral wealth in the 20th century.

It's rare for a president to acknowledge failure

But in the tweet he is considering it a success.

It was implicit in the tweet that not recognizing the completion of the mission "a decade ago" was a failure.

I thought the Biden speech was decent, if a little ineloquent. But maybe it's just refreshing to hear the 'buck stops here' stuff again after the trump debacle

It was implicit in the tweet that not recognizing the completion of the mission "a decade ago" was a failure.

― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Monday, August 16, 2021 3:22 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes, when he was vice president

Worth noting that while American media has coughed up every hack general and NSA spook decrying what's happened, the American public hasn't budged. Opposition to Middle East policy and perhaps foreign adventures generally is the last remaining bipartisan point of solidarity.

yes, when he was vice president

hence Alfred saying it's rare for a president to acknowledge failure

Since he didn't send in a MEF, I'll cut Sleepy Joe some slack.

Please RETWEET if you agree that America owes a debt of loyalty and honor to those Afghans who served as translators and aides to US forces in Afghanistan over the last 20 years, and that we must grant them visas and evacuate them from the country immediately to save their lives. pic.twitter.com/60HpASqWRy

— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) August 14, 2021

I'm surprised this dumbass didn't make it a Minions meme

More terrorist videos.

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— Yall hear that (@BloodsareCrips) August 16, 2021