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This is definitely nice...forgot it was also included on the Musical History box. Another smart pick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBL_1aKFhaM

birdistheword, Sunday, 15 August 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

And here's that later "Twilight" with the quieter full-band arrangement. Both Rick and Garth play on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIxH1KaI0Pg

birdistheword, Sunday, 15 August 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link

FWIW, apparently it dates from 1989 - more from NPR:

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/06/776941566/rick-danko-and-garth-hudson-on-mountain-stage

birdistheword, Sunday, 15 August 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link

Kind of went down a rabbit hole, but apparently Robbie was going to play in the 2013 Grammy Award tribute for Levon following his death in 2012. At the time, Jonathan Taplin posted this on his blog: “As angry as I was that Levon’s wife (Sandy) kept Robbie Robertson off the stage (it’s a long and sad story of paranoia), Zac, Mavis, T Bone and the Mumfords did a wonderful version of ‘The Weight’, which was a fitting end to a great night of Americana.” It got reported in Glide Magazine, but I guess it started a shitstorm because when I tried to dig up the original post on archive.org, any mention of Levon's wife was gone, with an added note by Taplin that said "Let’s see if we can just talk about the music."

birdistheword, Sunday, 15 August 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link

That SNL Band performance is the first I've seen where any of the vocalists weren't also playing!

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 15 August 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

Good point!

No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 August 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link

Don't think I've mentioned this 'un on here----haven't listened in a long time, but liked most of it a lot---thanks again, wiki!

Endless Highway: The Music of The Band, a tribute to the Band, was released on January 30, 2007.
Released January 30, 2007
Recorded July 19, 2005 – August 1, 2006
Genre Rock, Americana
Label 429 Records
Track listing
All songs written by Robbie Robertson unless noted otherwise.

"This Wheel's on Fire" (Bob Dylan, Rick Danko) performed by Guster - 3:24
"King Harvest (Has Surely Come)" performed by Bruce Hornsby and the Noisemakers - 4:03
"It Makes No Difference" performed by My Morning Jacket – 6:19
"I Shall Be Released" (Dylan) performed by Jack Johnson with ALO – 4:11
"The Weight" performed by Lee Ann Womack – 4:48
"Chest Fever" performed by Widespread Panic - 6:34
"Up on Cripple Creek" performed by Gomez – 4:37
"The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" performed by the Allman Brothers Band – 5:03
"Stage Fright" performed by Steve Reynolds – 3:44
"Rag Mama Rag" performed by Blues Traveler – 3:18
"Whispering Pines" (Richard Manuel, Robertson) performed by Jakob Dylan – 4:05
"Acadian Driftwood" performed by the Roches – 6:20
"The Unfaithful Servant" performed by Rosanne Cash – 4:56
"When I Paint My Masterpiece" (Dylan) performed by Josh Turner – 5:03
"Life Is a Carnival" (Danko, Levon Helm, Robertson) performed by Trevor Hall – 4:09
"Look Out Cleveland" performed by Jackie Greene – 3:13
"Rockin' Chair" performed by Death Cab for Cutie – 5:31
Bonus disc included 4 extra songs.

"Across the Great Divide" performed by Lucas Reynolds
"Ophelia" performed by ALO
"Bessie Smith" performed by Joe Henry
"The Shape I'm In" performed by Gov't Mule
References
Jurek, Thom. "Endless Highway: The Music of The Band - Various Artists". Allmusic. Retrieved March 21, 2012.

dow, Sunday, 15 August 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link

xxxpost Run Devil Run was so intense, even harsh at times, as he seemed to break through his usual limits: I even thought of it as more like John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band than Rock n Roll Dr. John's Gumbo was equally revelatory in its own way: the originals of those songs were waaay OOP and I hadn't heard most (the early 70s were pretty shitty for historical reissues, even for stuff like from early 60s)

dow, Sunday, 15 August 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link

Also: Kelly Hogan (and Jon Langford. eventually), "Whispering Pines":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBAWPXVbcoE

dow, Monday, 16 August 2021 02:45 (two years ago) link

Someone just sent me this in response to that SNL video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZqMlhdUoSM

No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 August 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Has anyone read Jonathan Taplin’s recent book?

He POLLS So Much About These Zings (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 October 2021 01:06 (two years ago) link

It's supposed to be really good. I skimmed through it really fast just to pass the time and it is filled with amazing stories that go all over the place (beyond the rock 'n' roll world), so to be clear, it's not just a book on the Band - it stretches into politics and the '60s, Hollywood, the rise of corporate America and the digital age.

Here's what Greil Marcus wrote on it for his column:

10. Jonathan Taplin, The Magic Years: Scenes from a Rock-and-Roll Life (Heyday). This is a unified story, from Taplin’s time as road manager for Bob Dylan and the Band to movie producing to investment banking to technology writing, and what makes it so is thinking: someone always wondering what’s behind the curtain, if only because what’s behind it is almost certainly going to make a better story than what’s in front of it. So in a concise and burrowing manner, he tells you about the music business, with Meyer Lansky behind both MCA and Warner Communications; Michael Milken as the architect of the media landscape that Donald Trump harvested; how with their version of Marvin Gaye’s “Don’t Do It” the Band, having “trapped themselves within a sort of puritan destiny,” at least for a few minutes “shed the hair shirt”; or for that matter why Gaye’s What’s Going On “was as politically symbolic as track star’s John Carlos’s raised fist at the 1968 Olympics.” And a hundred other tales and grace notes — but, for me, nothing matches what Taplin excavates from his time as a volunteer in Robert F. Kennedy’s presidential campaign, where he turned after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr., just a paragraph from a speech at the University of Kansas: “Our Gross National Product, now, is over $800 billion a year, but that Gross National Product — if we judge the United States of America by that — that Gross National Product counts air pollution and cigarette advertising and ambulances to clear our highways of carnage. It counts special locks for our doors and jails for people who break them. It counts the destruction of the redwood and the loss of our natural wonder in chaotic sprawl. It counts napalm and it counts nuclear warheads and armored cars for the police to fight the riots in our cities. […] It measures neither our wit nor our courage, neither our wisdom nor our learning, neither our compassion nor our devotion to our country, it measures everything in short, except that which makes life worthwhile. And it can tell us everything about America except why we are proud that we are Americans.” And the echoes of that speech, which was even tougher than Taplin’s quotation encompasses — the Gross National Product, Kennedy said, “counts Whitman’s rifle and Speck’s knife” — run all through the book.

birdistheword, Sunday, 10 October 2021 05:58 (two years ago) link

Cahoots Expanded Deluxe
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/the-band-cahoots-50th-anniversary-box-set/

dow, Saturday, 23 October 2021 01:03 (two years ago) link

It's funny to think that when I was discovering records like this one 35 years ago, they were practically forgotten in public libraries and dollar bins. Certainly the Band weren't forgotten, but the idea that individual albums like Cahoots were going to be refurbished, remixed and re-released in fancy packages wasn't anybody's prognostication.
That said, I'd like to hear the remixes of the two good songs on this.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 23 October 2021 01:22 (two years ago) link

Concert might be good.

dow, Saturday, 23 October 2021 01:32 (two years ago) link

They still did great shows on the Cahoots tour. (Hell, Rock of Ages was essentially compiled from several of those shows.)

I gave this another chance earlier and hated it. It's really a good EP that didn't have the material to make it a full-length LP.

The EP:
1. Life Is A Carnival
2. When I Paint My Masterpiece
5. 4% Pantomime

Should've made it:
Don't Do It

Potentially good had they done a better recording:
7. The Moon Struck One
9. Smoke Signal
11. The River

"Bessie Smith" would have been good but I think their recording is actually from 1975 and doctored to sound older. (It was written in 1967, so they had the chance to record it for Cahoots.)

birdistheword, Saturday, 23 October 2021 01:44 (two years ago) link

*The River Hymn

birdistheword, Saturday, 23 October 2021 01:45 (two years ago) link

I bought Rock of Ages on CD many years ago and the sound was muddy and awful. Guess I need to see if it’s been remastered.

that's not my post, Saturday, 23 October 2021 01:49 (two years ago) link

I bought Rock of Ages on CD many years ago and the sound was muddy and awful. Guess I need to see if it’s been remastered.

It was mixed poorly, a remaster alone won't cut it. You need to get Live At The Academy Of Music 1971 (released in 2013) either in the 2CD version or the 4CD + DVD box set (which is OOP and very expensive).

The 2CD version will have every performance (same song and take) from the expanded 2001 reissue of Rock of Ages except in a sequence that reflects their actual setlists, newly mixed by Bob Clearmountain. It's THE definitive live document of these concerts.

The box set includes a DVD for a 5.1 mix and what little film footage they have of the tour (it's only a few songs IIRC), but it also has two CD's of just the New Year's Eve show in its entirety, newly mixed by Sebastian Robertson (Robbie's son). Some may prefer it, and I kind of do, but it's a very different mix - it's called a "soundboard" style mix, but to me it's like if you're sitting with the band while they play a full show for posterity in a studio. A whole different feel. Clearmountain's show sounds like a rock concert in the best seat of a concert hall, and they arguably picked the best takes across all shows.

birdistheword, Saturday, 23 October 2021 02:45 (two years ago) link

hey thanks for the recommendation, done.

that's not my post, Saturday, 23 October 2021 05:19 (two years ago) link

So birdistheword and I were discusssing D.A. Pennebaker today, over on the Velvet Underground Trainspotting thread: when I met him in '93 (he was bringing his Clinton doc, The War Room, around to l'il indie theaters in the boondocks), he told me about some things he'd been filming lately, like he'd been up in Canada with Danko, Manuel, and---Bjorn Feldman, does that sound right? Somebody like that, think I'd heard the three of them on NPR, like maybe Mountain Stage, but not seeing it listed there, or anywhere---anyway, anybody ever hear them, or see any of that footage? (Maybe Hudson instead of Manuel; Garth and Rick were on Mountain Stage in '89, but not a third guy listed)

dow, Saturday, 23 October 2021 06:24 (two years ago) link

ilxor tylerw comes through yet again:

The Band - The Music Inn, Lenox, Massachusetts, September 26, 1976

I’m trying to will some of that autumn feeling into existence by listening to this late-September Band gig, just about 45 years ago — listen to the rice when the wind blows ‘cross the water. In a few short months, The Band would be dancing its Last Waltz, but they all sound as good as ever at the Music Inn, as captured on a very nice audience tape. Danko in particular is on fire, vocally and instrumentally, and the mix gives us a little bit more of Manuel’s piano as a treat. Some relatively rarely played tunes, too — the opening “Ring That Bell,” “Twilight,” and a version of “Forbidden Fruit” that threatens to get a little bit jammy at the end. Stay til the very end to hear a dog in the crowd barking his approval as the final curtain closes …
show is linked via title of this post on his invaluable blog:
https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/6617

dow, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link

Twilight is an underrated song. I think I have heard the Shawn Colvin cover way more than the Band's version

that of a giant Slor (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link

You need to get Live At The Academy Of Music 1971

So I did and it's spectacular

that's not my post, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

watching once were brothers: first moment out of the ordinary is when i'm startled to discover that ronnie hawkins is very much still with us

(and looking good, as of 2019 anyway)

mark s, Saturday, 18 December 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link

Rompin' is one of the greatest correlations to longevity.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 18 December 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

i mean this is totally on me for not paying attention obv but if you asked me this morning "when did ronnie h leave us?" i wd have guessed like three decades ago -- at least if the question didn't seem a bit sus

eight months older than jerry lee (who will outlive us all lol)

mark s, Saturday, 18 December 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

not a new point to make itt but robbie is not an exciting or a trust-inducing teller of his own tale: every time he recounts something that surprised or excited him he pitches it wrong and it rings rehearsed and fake (even tho some of it probably isn't) (i am for example prepared to believe that he did find rock and roll life-changing and ditto dylan's approach to words in a song -- but as he sets it out in this doc he turns everything into ad copy)

mark s, Saturday, 18 December 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link

haha second moment of being genuinely startled is discovering that david geffen looks like that

mark s, Saturday, 18 December 2021 22:03 (two years ago) link

now i mean

mark s, Saturday, 18 December 2021 22:04 (two years ago) link

Taking sides: rompin' vs. chooglin'

Mark Antonym (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 December 2021 22:33 (two years ago) link

ok that had some great clips i suppose but it wasn't very good

mark s, Saturday, 18 December 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link

My impression is that Robbie to some degree talks or writes like whoever he is hanging around with, so when he was spending a lot of time with Levon he was able to write all those songs and now…

Blue Suede Q*bert (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 December 2021 12:28 (two years ago) link

Has anyone heard the Cahoots remix/remaster? I saw it the other day but didn't get it

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 20 December 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link

Yes. I only listened to three tracks (i.e. the ones I like) because I'm not a fan of the album but "Life is Carnival" drops out the entire band except the vocals at one point and "4% Pantomime" has a lot of new, weird-ass reverb on the vocals in some spots. The clarity on "Life is Carnival" was pretty amazing, but I still prefer the charm of the old, vintage mix. (The new mix sounds like it would be a new digital mix. Too clean.)

The studio version of "Don't Do It" also got a new mix, but it feels a lot weaker than the fresh mix that was made for A Musical History. (Andrew Sandoval found the multi-track when he worked on that box set around 2005 and gave it a brand-new mix, unlike the old Cahoots reissue he produced around 2000 which used a audibly worn acetate.)

birdistheword, Monday, 20 December 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link

Pitchfork review is thoughtful and seems fair: reviewer 'ppreciates at least some of the changes, esp. elimination of what's considered messy arrangements, but still thinks most of the album is inherently flawed, esp. because of Robertson's stiff, self-conscious historicism ("book report"), and some unenthusiastic (also hungover) instrumental responses---carefully detailed here, incl. context of band history, situation:
Pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/the-band-cahoots-50th-anniversary-edition/

dow, Monday, 20 December 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

Well not elimination, but clean-up on Aisle 7 etc. Also some new overdubs are perceived, I think?

dow, Monday, 20 December 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

I can see Robbie doing new overdubs - I don't think the previous remixes had any but he did it for the 1975 release of The Basement Tapes (and even kept them in the new stereo mixes for A Musical History...fortunately Dylan's camp didn't keep them when they issued the whole thing later).

birdistheword, Monday, 20 December 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

Just listened to samples of this remix and everything is simultaneously unpleasantly booming and trebly.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 20 December 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Found this guy:
So birdistheword and I were discusssing D.A. Pennebaker today, over on the Velvet Underground Trainspotting thread: when I met him in '93 (he was bringing his Clinton doc, The War Room, around to l'il indie theaters in the boondocks), he told me about some things he'd been filming lately, like he'd been up in Canada with Danko, Manuel, and---Bjorn Feldman, does that sound right? Somebody like that, think I'd heard the three of them on NPR, like maybe Mountain Stage, but not seeing it listed there, or anywhere---anyway, anybody ever hear them, or see any of that footage? (Maybe Hudson instead of Manuel; Garth and Rick were on Mountain Stage in '89, but not a third guy listed)

― dow, Saturday, October 23, 2021
Wiki sez:
Jonas Fjeld(born Terje Lillegård Jensen; 24 September 1952) is a Norwegian singer, songwriter, and guitarist. He is best known in the English-speaking world for two albums recorded by Danko/Fjeld/Andersen, a collaboration with Canadian Rick Danko of The Band and American singer-songwriter Eric Andersen. Fjeld also recorded three albums with the American bluegrass group Chatham County Line.
(Then Judy Collins teamed up with Fjeld and CCL!)
First DFA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danko/Fjeld/Andersen
Second: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridin%27_on_the_Blinds
Also that he was comedy rocker 'til heard Andersen's Blue River.

dow, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 03:05 (two years ago) link

(which looks like it might be good, but 0 The Band input apparently):https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_River_(album)

dow, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 03:17 (two years ago) link

I have Blue River. Pretty solid folk rock album

Heez, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:04 (two years ago) link

There's a funny scene with Eric Andersen in Les Blank's documentary on Leon Russell, A Poem Is a Naked Person. Eric is visiting Leon's compound/studio and musing about music history: "we owe so much to older guys like you...what are you, forty? Forty-five?"
Leon, offended: "I ain't but turned thirty!"

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link

yeah i saw that, Leon was pretty brutal

Heez, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:46 (two years ago) link

Eric's behaviour (in the scene) was pretty pompous in general.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:50 (two years ago) link

yeah, i remember that as well

Heez, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 16:54 (two years ago) link

Wiki entry on Blue River led me to main article: didn't realize he'd done so much, looking pretty ambitious at times, tho might be pompous--albs w Danko aside, I'm most intrigued by this: You Can't Relive The Past, which included original blues numbers as well as a selection of songs co-written with Townes Van Zandt.. Cane out in 2001.

dow, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 20:48 (two years ago) link

i love garth, obviously an incredible keys player but i think my fav contribution of his might be his sax solo on "it makes no difference," which always brings a tear to my eye. idk if it would hurt to drop him a line

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 1 March 2022 15:33 (two years ago) link


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