neon genesis evangelion

i guess if we’re doing spoilers…

*****spoiler*****

shinji/anno finds peace as… a salaryman was not the ending i was hoping for either.

agreed that mari is kind of a nothing character. never been a big fan of the mari character design either. but i was ok with the relationship in the reveal tho. i mean, they did go thru some crazy things together. maybe they bonded in the 10 years or whatever that they didn’t show? kaworu would have been like 9000x better but i was still happy that our poor shmuck shinji finally gets to have a real adult relationship like misato and ruoji did. congratulations!

rei asking about every little thing in the village reminded me of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faXDCp0BDU4

*ryoji kaji

maybe they bonded in the 10 years or whatever that they didn’t show?

shinji spent that entire time in unit 01. the only time he'd interacted with mari before this was the brief meeting in 2.0 which just makes everything about the pairing strange

more and more i think the ideal version of this for me would have been quickly dispatching with gendo and fuyutsuki in ten minutes in the middle and then we just get back to more of people living in the remnants. rei farms. asuka plays the wonderswan some more. shinji becomes the village fisherman and finds a way to live with his trauma.

this would have been much more interesting & daring yeah but the only real issue i have with the actual ending is mari

shinji spent that entire time in unit 01. the only time he'd interacted with mari before this was the brief meeting in 2.0 which just makes everything about the pairing strange

heh, well, I did say that I was pretty sleepy by the time it was winding down. time to watch it again.

if anyone is a 'patreon supporter' of the videogames but also anime podcast 'abnormal mapping' their episode on this was actually full of good takes

tho actually it was mostly bgm's read tbh

can't believe i still haven't seen this, don't worry i am really selectively reading the thread lol

welp it's up, £199/$279

Well shit. lol

Classic dub, though?

yep classic dub and sub, no Fly Me To The Moon tho

$279 is the promotional preorder price. Can't wait to see what the full retail price will be!

UK price is £199 until Dec 6th when it becomes £299
there are only 1,500 sets though so maybe it'll sell out by then

people on messageboards tracking order numbers saying half of those are sold already lol

uh yeah woof come on the perfect collection was like only $125

yep classic dub and sub

oh god you have to let me know what classic sub means

sorry i just read the press release and i know you have no further information

how dare they do this to me

and i really can't afford it lol :(

i bought it i'm a dumbass

fwiw the marketing guy from the UK release is saying that other editions are being revealed at the end of the month

Additional editions being announced on the 30th!

— miles thomas (@Real_Kilometers) August 19, 2021

i'm a dumbass!!! lol

i'm gonna be so happy when i have dat box tho

it must cost a small fortune to license "fly me to the moon"

well, I'm not exactly proud, but I grabbed one too.

no "fly me to the moon" gave me serious pause tho. but I still my busted bootleg dvd set from 2000 or so for that, I suppose.

for $275, no fly me to the moon = no sale. maybe the inevitable cheaper version later.

finally watching 3.0+1.0 tomorrow, rewatching the first three movies today

anyone wanna know how worried i am that the “classic dub and sub” are just the sd platinum edition ported to blu rays

i will be so mad if they got me to spend $300 on a translation i don’t like and a release of the show i already own

oh man don’t say things like this, i still haven’t even made my peace with “no fly me to the moon”

what do they even play instead btw? is it like how married with children just has generic muzak for the theme now?

assuming they'll sub in some other bgm

i literally cannot remember what netflix did

they should just use the same public domain married with children muzak whenever this problem arises

From what I heard they just subbed in Rei's theme. Did they end up having to cut this from the end of Episode 15 too? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hpVoj2skvo

Also salty that these songs ARE on the JP streaming version so it seems like a money thing

the only legitimate version of the original is one you downloaded on a 56k modem

i have probably criticized 2.0 upthread bc of the uptick in fan service and harem anime tropes but the fight sequences are just tremendous

also the scene where touji does not get picked to be an eva pilot is so funny

3.0 still the best movie ever made

how do i hire kaworu nagisa as my therapist

found 3.0+1.0 aka “emotionally healthy end of evangelion” profoundly moving

Aus & NZ boxset details finally up, 500 copies at $519 from Sept 1st
https://www.madmanfilms.com.au/evangelion/

also Scotland Loves Anime details are up, includes a screening of End Of Evangelion at Edinburgh Filmhouse
https://www.lovesanimation.com/film/end-of-evangelion

lol, they're just straight-up trolling. $175 for collectors edition, and $45 for standard, and the biggest difference I see between the two is that the standard edition doesn't have the classic dub and subtitles.

i canceled my ultimate edition bc i felt i was getting fleeced (and also couldn't afford it and really needed the money)

also i feel like the message of 3.0+1.0 is that evangelion is dead and i shouldn't spend $300 on something i own twice

$175 for collectors edition, and $45 for standard, and the biggest difference I see between the two is that the standard edition doesn't have the classic dub and subtitles.

feel like this bonus feature may or must be coming at a great expense for gkids but idk

it's like six additional discs too

I watched half of 3.0+1.0 last night and loved it and cannot wait to finish it tonight

All soundtracked by the world's corniest piano suicide ballad which gradually morphs, apparently without anybody involved noticing that this is an odd thing to do, into an "All You Need Is Love" type singalong complete with "A Day In The Life" strings. This from a show that begins with giant robot fights and wacky hijinks revolving around a warm-water penguin.

― Doctor Casino, Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:34 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark

iirc its called Komm Susser Todd and is a blatant Hey Jude rip as well

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:07 AM bookmarkflaglink

i've concluded tonight that it's also borrowing something from "Questions 67 and 68" by Chicago. there's a section in the middle with this piano banging out the chords at such-and-such tempo and it really reminds me of the "tumbling down" section.

also just listened to that N64 MIDI rendition again, lolllll. when the chorus voice comes in!

oh my god that fucking MIDI rendition

watched this in a few settings earlier this week. my letterboxd review:

wonderfully bizarre in both structure and content. the first 15 and the last 90 minutes of this comprise a visually overwhelming feature length version of the concluding section of 2001, overlaid with an exhausting onslaught of deliberately impenetrable and meaningless lore. the goal: convince the protagonist, and the audience, that they don't need any of it to be happy. but we get there on our own anyway, through the middle section's oasis of the everyday. seems like a nice place. congratulations!

wish American big-budget blockbusters could take more swings at being nigh-incomprehensible visual art projects with hearts of gold. as a "conclusion" to a "story" this is nigh unwatchable, but let's face it, that train left the station at least two movies back, and really we've been in this other kind of giant robot anime since the last two episodes of the original TV show. i'm still not convinced any of this was necessary... but nor are any big "franchise" "reboots," and just imagine if anybody involved in any of those was interested in doing anything other than filling the screen with familiar images to boost the market value of the underlying intellectual property?

also: i've seen a lot of people complaining about the animation. i thought it looked great? like, yeah, the designs are impossible to take in and the action is impossible to follow (especially when set in an alternate dimension with no ground or other reference points). but it's not like this was going for being a great, grounded action movie. the maximalism of all the stupid new Evas and ships is the point, right? wish i'd seen it on a big screen, with mind set in the proper state to just be blown away by the delirium.

the animation throughout the rebuilds is beautiful especially the cgi

ppl bring a lot of baggage to like the whole concept of animation-with-integrated-cg, so even when they're seeing something clearly intended to be unreally/surreally gorgeous and overwhelming they feel like they're being cheated? idk that's my only explanation for it

yeah i think it's just baggage people bring over from tv anime where cg is more often used as a compromise than as a choice, due to tight deadlines and a shortage of 2d animators. if it's being used in a high profile film with a 7 year gestation then there's probably more intentionality to it

totally. and i mean, my standard here is the original TV series. which cut costs in various ways, but clearly threw a lot of budget into backgrounds, several seconds of incredible animated action per episode, and incredible design work all throughout. (and then well, episodes 25-26...). it's a great looking show overall. and this mostly looks better than that.

the most striking departure really from the original series is the pacing. there's very little in the way of a classic 'evangelion feel' to the way scenes play out or the way transitions between scenes happen. not a lot of long shots of power lines with crickets chirping. conversations are often choppy, just two or three lines back and forth, then jumping back over to somebody else. this contributes to an even greater feeling of unreality for me... this thing where people just act really strange and nobody asks any logical followup questions, which i found really distracting in the first couple Rebuilds but had come to accept by the third. i guess it's all signs of people being afraid to get closer to each other. (is the "hedgehog's dilemma" mentioned by name in this series?)

when applied to lore and world-building, this same approach leads to just a profusion of empty signifiers and unexplained nonsense, which i embraced as silliness and then decided was thematically intentional by the end. making new spears from the black moon to access the imaginary evangelion inside the anti-universe... ahhh sure whatever, i'm on board