Covidiots in music

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Yeah, I just figure if he was willing to yell at the crew for not being safe, and he has not backed down on his outburst, and yet has not come out and demanded everybody on the shoot be vaccinated, as others have on other shoots and shows, makes me think he is ambivalent at best about actual vaccination. Like, it's Tom Cruise. If he wanted everybody to be vaccinated we would all probably know it.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link

That’s an interesting question, I don’t know what the protocols are for UK film productions or if vaccines can be mandated on set there (I can poke around, pun intended).

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link

I was under the impression that Hollywood productions generally required masks (with dismissals already reported for those who refused to comply), social distancing, and a "bubble" organization in terms of how living quarters are set up for crew members, etc. Vaccine requirements are a relatively new thing - I think the recent Sean Penn story was the first time any star demanding it was reported.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link

Yeah a deal w/the guilds was reached in July that currently runs thru October (Netflix then became the first studio to require vaccinations on all U.S. productions).

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link

Going back to the UK (and M:I), here's a recent article that says:

Inevitably, the numerous production shutdowns have led to talk of mandatory vaccination on set, especially with Netflix in the U.S. already instituting a vaccination mandate for actors and any crew working in close proximity with them. In the U.K., many are in favor of such measures but complex employment legislation likely makes it unenforceable.

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link

Maybe not a Covidiot but Louise Wener following Cernovich, Lozza Fox, Hartley-Brewer, Peterson, Darren Grimes, a bunch of Speccie writers, lots of Trump family members, all the famous Terfs etc. Quite a shock that.

piscesx, Friday, 13 August 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link

She used to go on about how much she loved PJ O'Rourke in the mid-90s so not a *huge* surprise, however anyone following Darren Grimes has to be a bit thick.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 August 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link

i am totally unsurprised to hear that about louise werner.

stirmonster, Friday, 13 August 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link

Oh her – yeah I thought she was notably "conservative" when her band first appeared, like that was their hook in the press?

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Friday, 13 August 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

(I know very little about UK rock, but 1995 is my core year so I read all that stuff)

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Friday, 13 August 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

I think i must’ve sleepwalked through the 90s.

piscesx, Friday, 13 August 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

Oh her – yeah I thought she was notably "conservative" when her band first appeared, like that was their hook in the press?

yes, i think it was, but i am now wondering why on earth i was reading sleeper interviews back then?

stirmonster, Friday, 13 August 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link

I read Select cover-to-cover from 95 to 96, that's my reason

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 August 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link

yes, i think it was, but i am now wondering why on earth i was reading sleeper interviews back then?

every music mag had to run SOME kind of text alongside their three-page spreads of four nigh-identical photos of Ms Wener, you kept reading them to try and figure out why

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 13 August 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link

Nothing surprises me about Louise Wener. Sleeper were absolutely fucking shite too. One of the worst bands of that era.

Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Friday, 13 August 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2009/jan/18/luke-haines-britpop-louise-wener

Always remembered her review of Luke Haines' book, the thrust of which was basically "I was actually more interesting than Luke Haines, also Tom Verlaine played a [squints at notes] Fender Jaguar", and it was like, yeah he's a bit of a reactionary dickhead too but at least his band was good

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 13 August 2021 22:32 (two years ago) link

Chet Haze the least-surprising addition possible

Chet Hanks speaks on the Covid-19 vaccine despite both his parents getting Covid: "You ain’t stickin’ me with that motherf-’ needle. It’s the motherf-n’ flu. Get over it, okay?"
WATCH: https://t.co/kEetNqqclk pic.twitter.com/MjKpDVHezz

— Complex (@Complex) August 10, 2021

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 15 August 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link

Neil Kulkarni's review of a Sleeper live gig (included, amusingly, on an old Sleeper fan site) remains perfect

http://sleeper.weheartmusic.com/gigography/1995/birmingham-digbeth-insti-09-oct-1995

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 August 2021 22:13 (two years ago) link

God, what is the story with Chet Hanks?

I wish I had read that Sleeper review sooner.

peace, man, Sunday, 15 August 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link

Chet Hanks to Howard Stern:

"Howie... Do you have any idea how badly I am going to assault you when I see you... You can't run from me forever knock knees ... Howie... Listen. One day, maybe tomorrow, maybe 10 years from now, I am going to see you in person, and I am going to hurt you... I hope you travel with security!!! PLEASE have me on the show."

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 16 August 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link

Chet Hanks, there's a cautionary tale.

Tom Hanks: “My son Colin was born when I was very young, as well as my daughter (Elizabeth), but that means we have this gestalt understanding because they remember when their dad was just a guy trying to, you know, make the rent. My other kids (like Chet), they were born after I had established a beachhead in every way. And so their lives were just different.”

birdistheword, Monday, 16 August 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

Chet Hanks was born in 1990. Rita Wilson was in Bonfire of the Vanities with Bruce Willis that same year. Just saying...

— Rayya (@rayyago) March 28, 2021

Chris L, Monday, 16 August 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link

Jason Aldean

https://tasteofcountry.com/jason-aldean-maskless-crowd-in-new-york/

"This is our first weekend back and who knows what's going to happen next week," he remarked. "But, you know the coolest thing about all this, the coolest thing to me right now is that I'm looking out, seeing all you guys, and I don't see one f---ing mask."

“Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 03:50 (two years ago) link

Was he celebrating that we've made it over that hurdle or just ruing their existence because freedom?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 12:07 (two years ago) link

Was he celebrating that we've made it over that hurdle or just ruing their existence because freedom?

The latter. He's a real knuckle-walker.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 12:52 (two years ago) link

Knuckle Walker is a great name for a country singer.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 13:14 (two years ago) link

Moose Knuckle Walker

“Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 13:26 (two years ago) link

Aldean concerts are typically pretty unsafe for the audience

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 13:46 (two years ago) link

Yeah, but if you go to a country music concert the risk of hearing country music is kinda baked-in.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 14:05 (two years ago) link

the amount of Country music detectable at an Aldean show is negligible

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

Aldean concerts are typically pretty unsafe for the audience

I just realized. he's THAT guy. What a jackass, does he have to learn everything the hard way?

birdistheword, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 14:25 (two years ago) link

Was he celebrating that we've made it over that hurdle

The fact that we haven’t was the biggest clue for me

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link

Carrie Underwood being dragged for liking a tweet opposing mask mandates for schoolkids.

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link

It doesn't help that the tweet was from Matt Lewis, a Ben Shapiro homunculus.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link

Maybe Next Time She'll Think Before She Tweets

“Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 00:10 (two years ago) link

Jesus, Mask Your Kids

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 00:17 (two years ago) link

xps it's Matt Walsh, actually, but six of one...

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 01:58 (two years ago) link

Ha too true

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 02:08 (two years ago) link

Anyone know why he was being asked such ridiculous questions?

Nick Cave responding to a question about whether he’s had covid vaccine, and if it hurts “the soul” pic.twitter.com/v621wtPDnB

— Ange McCormack (@_angemccormack) August 17, 2021

groovypanda, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

Anyone know why he was being asked such ridiculous questions?

He takes questions from fans on his website. https://www.theredhandfiles.com/

peace, man, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

I heard there were plans to inject everyone with a little bit of Nick Cave's soul.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link

Ah, cheers xp

groovypanda, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link

Red Right Arm (for 6-18 hours)

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

Your Funeral...My Clinical Trial

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link

I ain’t down here for your money, I’m down here for a little piece of your soul.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link

I thought Nick Cave was a COVIDiot for a second there.
Don't scare me like that!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

Seriously!

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

Kicking Against the Needle Pricks

keeping myself to myself (Matt #2), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link

Wino is pulling out of the Psycho Las Vegas festival because of mask requirements. His Facebook statement, in full:

“WINO STATEMENT

“Two evenings ago, I received an email from Psycho Las Vegas, wherein they informed me, and other artists, that this event would require that all people, attendees and artists, wear a mask at ALL times indoors. The exception only being while singing on stage, all non-singing musicians, band members, etc. are required to be masked during the performance. This includes drummers. Also, as soon as the performance is over, artists will be required to re-don masks in backstage, front of house, vip lounges, and common areas. I have dug very deep when researching covid-19 not just on youtube, but in scientific publications, journals, lectures, etc. I BELIEVE THE VIRUS EXISTS, and has been weaponized as has been proven in congressional hearings where the evidence is overwhelming. Our govt (NIH) has been complicit in the financing, and shared scientific lab work creating a SARS based super coronavirus, designed specifically for lethality and easy dissemination amongst the human population. Bio-weapons are nothing new, but in my personal opinion pure evil. Early on in the so called pandemic it was stated by the CDC that PCR tests were inaccurate in determining if one had the virus, because they are designed for individuals who already were symptomatic. The CDC quickly backtracked as it was a desirable test to cause FALSE POSITIVES. Also, the Innova rapid tests have been recalled by the FDA for also giving inaccurate results. Mainstream media did not report this, and these tests are still in use. A paper mask was also first said by the WHO and so called experts to be useless against the virus, then of course the official word was again changed. My personal beliefs are: We are under the authoritarian cloak of a small cadre of unelected so called “elite” who are beyond rich and consequently consider themselves above the common man. This virus I believe was created as a depopulation tool, and the fear associated with it as a means to subjugate and enslave you and I, the common people. I cannot, in good conscious, perform my music in an environment that is designed to take away individuality, civil liberties and free will. I will not be performing this night at Psycho Las Vegas, not out of fear, but principle. If we, the people, continue to blindly accept this tyranny we are destined for enslavement. These are my personal views, but I urge everyone to dig deep. My apologies to my friends and fans, but it’s time to wake up.

“Sincerely,
WINO 8/19/2021
Plague Years”

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 19 August 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link

cool nobody cares Wino

there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 August 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link


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