I had a dream last night that I was in a radio station, and in their dumpster were a number of 60s easy listening albums, Percy Faith etc. There was an album on Ranwood Records (Lawrence Welk's label) of the "hits" of Popol Vuh done easy listening style, and now I want one.
https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/324550623374_/The-Exotic-Guitars-Holly-Holy-LP-Vinyl-Record.jpg
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link
can't find much info, but looks like there is now an essential collection volume 2 out there (or at least on its way!)
― no lime tangier, Friday, 17 September 2021 06:41 (two years ago) link
That showed up today! Mostly these look like vinyl versions of the SPV releases. The only real surprise is "Earth View" from Kailash showing up at the end of Cœur de verre as a bonus track (looks like there's a new CD that does the same thing). Guido Hieronymus is credited as the sound supervisor for Cobra Verde, though that might just mean the bonus track. Haven't listened yet.
― with hidden noise, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 04:40 (two years ago) link
anyone grab one of those new vinyl boxsets?
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 March 2022 13:10 (two years ago) link
Can't remember if Jon posts here any more? But he just wrote up a great looking guide for Shfl
https://theshfl.com/guide/popol-vuh
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 April 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link
thanks for sharing!
― budo jeru, Thursday, 7 April 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link
whenever I see the cover art for In den Gärten Pharaos it blows my mind that it's from 1971. the design of it feels like 25-30 years ahead of its time
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 April 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link
yeah i've thought that too. the cover of hosianna mantra has fundamentally a similar design but that one looks of its time. just goes to show the effect a typeface and color scheme can have.
― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 7 April 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link
is this by jon dale from melbourne or a different jon?
― stirmonster, Friday, 8 April 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link
that was great ned, thank you! also, why have i never listened to 'spirit of peace' before?
stirmonster: definitely the former
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2022 07:12 (one year ago) link
"Florian Fricke" sounds like the sort of name Longmont Potion Castle would come up with
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 May 2022 03:16 (one year ago) link
Einsjager & Siebenjager (1974)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auLz3ssCsdg
― frogbs, Monday, 18 July 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link
lol
― budo jeru, Monday, 18 July 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link
what's the deal with 10 minutes of "Brüder Des Schattens" just being lopped off on all the Nosferatu releases? it's not like there isn't room for it. weird how nearly all the PV soundtracks are like 25% retreads from other albums, 25% aimless Moog stuff, and 50% the most beautiful music you've ever heard in your life
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link
Apparently Herzog used to rummage around in tape boxes to find bits of music that fitted what he was after. Almost all of the music in Herz aus Glas isn't from the Herz aus Glas soundtrack but from the album before it, for instance.
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link
The moog stuff in Nosferatu was almost certainly recorded in the early 70s and not recorded for the film itself.
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link
one of the tracks is just an excerpt from "Vergegenwärtigung" from Aguirre - which is also (I assume) not in the film. (the original Vergegenwärtigung, not the one that cobbles together stuff from a previous album)
isn't there a site which sorts this all out? back in the old days of the internet there would've been a www.popol-vuh.freak which would break down the lineage of each album in 30,000 words
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link
The bonus tracks on their CDs are all over the place, there's no indication of when anythinng was recorded and the titles are often totally misleading.
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link
I was wondering abt that, I have some weird ones from a CD version of the 1st LP
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link
This is a defining feature of Popol Vuh — there are really only a handful of motifs that keep emerging in different forms in different places. There are outliers (LT-LN for example) and I feel like its bc they’re heavily Fishelscher.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link
Here's a PDF I've consulted to make more sense of what's on which record, what is a remix/repeat from earlier albums, what pieces are in which film, etc.:
http://www.venco.com.pl/~acrux/misc/disc7.pdf
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link
oh wow...that is a lot to sift through
and yeah sleeve if you're talking about "Train Through Time" on Affenstunde that is an all-time weird bonus track. not only was it actually recorded for the LAST Popol Vuh album (3 decades later!) but it also sounds nothing like any of the other material on the album
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link
there is also this perfect sound forever article that is quite detailed -there are 4 parts to it
― sknybrg, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link
That document I linked to is a little deceptive on the subject of Nosferatu, because it was released with two different running orders, and they get the two mixed up.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link
sorry, link didn’t post, but it’s on the furious.com website
― sknybrg, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link
xxxp to frogs, yes that one and the "Dream Part x" series
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link
I've been meaning to reorganize my Vuh stuff on my music server but have sorta got fond of the chaos
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Friday, 16 December 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link
Just gave Cobra Verde a spin for the first time in years. For an instrument that cost a quarter of a million at the time, the Synclavier sure does sound like a piece of shit doesn't it? They just about manage to make a listenable record anyway despite the synth pads.
― no jaki liebezeit required (Matt #2), Friday, 16 December 2022 09:39 (one year ago) link
got the first volume of the box sets for christmas. so psyched
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Sunday, 25 December 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link
enjoy. it sounds amazing, way better than the MP3s I was listening to. hope vol. 3 is coming soon.
― frogbs, Monday, 26 December 2022 03:36 (one year ago) link
Been on a big Popol Vuh kick lately, but it's weird how like half of their albums are relatively easy to find, while the other half are a lot tougher (specifically prompted by looking for a CD copy of Letzte Tage – Letzte Nächte that doesn't cost north of $50).
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link
https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/2367863446 ?
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
I guess $35 is less than $50, still a lot...
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link
for sure, I paid $10 in 2013 for that same edition
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link
yea like a lot of overtly spiritual musicians who don't tend much to the business side their catalogue is a total mess. I never gave any thought to actually collecting the physical products until the recent box sets, which are not only very well pressed but also somewhat "definitive", assuming there's a 3rd and 4th one to come
― frogbs, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:49 (one year ago) link
But even those boxsets skip around a little bit, no?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link
they do but I think that's fine because PV doesn't really have 'eras' to me, each album is sort of its own thing and a lot of them incorporate elements of past albums. so like the first one has the Aguirre & Nosferatu soundtracks on it, which incorporate elements of Einsjager and Affenstunde, so it makes a little sense to put them altogether. Hosianna Mantra is also on there just to bridge the gaps a bit. idk I'm fine with it so long as they eventually get everything together.
― frogbs, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
Yeah, my complaint is more minor, it's just interesting to see which of their albums are in plentiful supply and which aren't. When I decided to check them out more closely a few years ago, I didn't even have to go out of my way to get the first five I bought (Aguirre, Nosferatu, Affenstunde, Einsjager and Hosianna), but I've really slowed down since and stumbled across a used copy of Sei still, wisse ich bin in Michigan a few months ago.
But since then I only find copies of those same five albums. I don't think I've ever even seen Letzte Tage – Letzte Nächte in the wild at all.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:01 (one year ago) link
I am still grateful to la lèchera for hooking me up with the Spalax edition of Letzte Tage which to me sounds much better than the remasters
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link
:) that one remains one of my all time fave albums
i am satisfied with my current state of Popol Vuh releases
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link
I have everything up to "Brüder Des Schattens - Söhne Des Lichts", what else should I check out? Cobra Verde? Fitzcarraldo?
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link
and man you wanna talk about a discographical mess, crosscheck the various bonus tracks between editions if you dare
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:36 (one year ago) link
TBH I almost never listen to those two but I do like Agape-Agape a LOT
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link
ty!
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link
Sei still, wisse ich bin is really good too, imo
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link
Yeah I dig that one quite a bit, was happy I found it.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link
noted, hey the 2017 Wah Wah version of that isn't insanely expensive!
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link
yea I mean Aguirre alone - a bunch of Side A is alternate takes from Einsjager, Side B is a long discarded track from the Moog era called "Vergegenwärtigung", but later editions replaced it with 3 other tracks from later albums, though on the CD it's still one long track called "Vergegenwärtigung". some editions have "Aguirre III" and others have the 3-part "Spirit of Peace" on it. very little of this was actually in the film, though one of the tunes that was (the bit at the end of the first title track) isn't even listed on the sleeve. so what, exactly, would the definitive edition be??
― frogbs, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link
This is from Agape-Agape and has the slow burn propulsion I love in this band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2WMsM-c4bY
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link
Agape-Agape is good but the production is just so lo-fi, I don't know what that was about.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 30 January 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link