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Beginning with Summer Leagues and effective for the 2021-22 season, game officials will enforce the playing rules in a manner that reduces the incentive for offensive players to use non-basketball moves to draw fouls.

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— NBA Official (@NBAOfficial) August 8, 2021

I feel like the video of Steph in that thread should be a no call

RIP Trae Young

rip a lot of guys! But I love this, it’s been something noxious about the game that nobody likes for awhile and has been getting worse year over year

Among the many ugly non-basketball moves, I count the "rip through" move, where the offensive player who has been holding the ball high and away suddenly swings the ball down low and across the arms of the defensive player facing him, not preparatory to doing anything with the ball, but simply to draw a foul. Harden especially favors this one.

about time is how i break it down to an extent. mostly curious to see who and how this effects not only the 22 season but also player's legacies.

They changed the rip through years ago it’s just a common foul not a shooting foul now. You don’t see them nearly as often.

about time is how i break it down to an extent. mostly curious to see who and how this effects not only the 22 season but also player's legacies.

I feel like the video of Steph in that thread should be a no call

― Fetchboy, Sunday, August 8, 2021 3:47 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

but it can’t be a no-call, there’s too much contact that affects the shot. offensive foul seems right

These guys are crafty they’ll all be fine and have so many different ways to score I don’t see it changing much. Maybe a couple less FTs per game.

yea when I think about the guys this'll primarily affect it's pretty much all people who are great shooters anyway. what this will do is make it a lot easier to root for guys like Harden

i agree that the league will change and the players are superhuman so it'll be fine but i think there are a few people who are going to become considerably different quantities depending on how this is called in-game and i'm looking at harden xp lol

but it can’t be a no-call, there’s too much contact that affects the shot. offensive foul seems right

― k3vin k., Sunday, August 8, 2021 5:44 PM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I feel like if the offensive player thinks they can get a shot up by bouncing off a guy who's not set they should be allowed to. No foul on the defender though. The less free throws we have to sit through the better.

I also think players should give each other boosts to achieve megadunks worth 4 points.

Last two minutes of each quarter, we shift to NBA Jam rules

pretty good idea

NCAAB should really create an Alumni league, 99% of their athletes never make the league. International can pay well, but NCAAB needs to beat the G-league and have the ability to play domestically.

Already have TV relationships, even just powerhouse schools would be enough.

— A.K (@Kungu_NBA) September 9, 2021

if that league just collected all the big white centers who couldn't play past college it would easily beat the g-league

Once G-League is easily brushed aside, they'd only need to compete for attention and ad dollars with NCAA hoops, WNBA, and Big3.

I would watch 2 teams full of lumbering white centers play each other

play in the nba offseason itd do numbers

allow each team a couple non alumni players, itd be cool

get em

NBA lays out new focus on stopping “manipulated,” non-basketball play fouls https://t.co/Mn8O8Ov877

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) September 24, 2021

Love it

excellent. interested to see how its called/enforced. kinda hoping they are all just no calls

i mean the stuff is freaking legal and so forth

Players won’t be subject to random tests for marijuana this season, according to @NBPA memo shared w/ players and obtained by ESPN. That’s been adjusted policy thru Orlando restart and 2020-‘21 season. Testing continues for “drugs of abuse and performance enhancing substances.”

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 6, 2021

i think the next frontier in nba strategy will be finding mtiple players who can shoot well from 8+ feet behind the 3pt line.

Create a 4 pt line and they will come.

yes hahaha yes

Harden not getting this call this year. 👀

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— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) October 12, 2021

love how hes the last one down the court in his pouting.

basically harden is gonna get called in the reg season how he gets called in the playoffs now. hes a smart and crafty player, im sure he'll adjust but his FTA per game should take a hit

Sources: The NBA Competition Committee today discussed the uptick in transition “take” fouls this season and encouraged the league office to develop a rule change that would eliminate incentive to utilize the tactic in future.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 2, 2021

NBA informed teams today that the Competition Committee is unanimously supportive of the league’s new rules officiating non-basketball moves. The new Wilson game ball was also discussed, with the league and players working directly with Wilson to adjust as appropriate. https://t.co/ftgu8fbrbr

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 2, 2021

might be pretty cool with the prize money

ESPN Sources: There’s renewed traction on a future In-Season Tournament in the NBA. The league and union are discussing a structure that includes December pool play, pre-Christmas quarters/semis/finals and $1M per player payout on winning team. More next on ESPN’s NBA Countdown.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) December 25, 2021

no I don’t like it

The NBA brass are prob thinking the long regular season is just too boring and they need more games that "count", but that shows a huge lack of faith in the game of hoops and the skill and competitiveness of their players. Regular season games are often exciting as hell, just because NBA players are often exciting as hell. Fuck this nonsense. Just keep working on promoting rules that punish the teams that deliberately tank.

StilL some stuff to fix obv

I don't normally do requests. pic.twitter.com/H0XIIxm7OE

— Mo Dakhil (@MoDakhil_NBA) December 25, 2021

I think that was just reflexive habit on the ref's part, left over from years of calling fouls on that crap. Once the whistle was blown, he couldn't un-blow it without looking even more like an idiot.

my solution of a postseason single elimination tourney to decide draft order among non-playoff teams would categorically solve tanking forever and be dope af

xps

well well well

Report: With play-in tournament, NBA would shorten regular season to 78 games https://t.co/Xg4difx4YB

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) December 28, 2021

pretty cool

Sources: The NBA has a new format for Rising Stars at All-Star Weekend, featuring four seven-player teams competing in a three-game tournament and each game having final target score.

28 players: 12 rookies, 12 sophomores – and for the first time, four G League Ignite players.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) January 25, 2022

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/33303891/reinventing-basketball-nba-look-75-years-baggage

its crazy they havent already done this

FIBA has found solutions to this problem + the take foul by allowing advantage situations if the defense gains possession off of a 24 sec violation AND giving 2 shots + possession if a take foul is committed.

Really no reason the NBA should be this slow on the uptake. https://t.co/ON7bypSq1j

— Joe Viray (@JoeVirayNBA) March 11, 2022

they should honestly do it before the playoffs

there are so many dumb reasons why this has gotten done yet. it's really frustrating.

*hasn't

The NBA is getting younger and lighter.

2014-15 — 26.7 yrs | 223 lbs average
2015-16 — 26.7 yrs | 222 lbs
2016-17 — 26.6 yrs | 221 lbs
2017-18 — 26.4 yrs | 220 lbs
2018-19 — 26.3 yrs | 219 lbs
2019-20 — 26.1 yrs | 218 lbs
2020-21 — 26.1 yrs | 217 lbs
2021-22 — 26.1 yrs | 215 lbs

— StatMuse (@statmuse) April 12, 2022

and speedier, too

NBA teams have suggested some tweaks to the Play-In Tournament, which the league will discuss with the Board of Governors and NBPA this offseason.

For example, if a team has a large enough lead in the standings, should it be exempt from the Play-In? https://t.co/2drqAAY3ZY

— Alex Kennedy (@AlexKennedyNBA) April 13, 2022

"The core of what we were trying to accomplish with the Play-In was driving regular-season competition,” Wasch said. “We use the word 'tiers' a lot to describe what that means. There's now a tier of the top-four teams, each of which get home-court advantage in the first round of the playoffs. There’s a 5-6 tier, which gives teams a guaranteed playoff berth. There’s a 7-8 tier, which gives teams two opportunities to win a game in the Play-In. And, of course, there’s the 9-10 tier that gives teams a shot to win two in a row to get in the playoffs.

yeah its working as intended and if you want to avoid it just get a top 6 record

no

Keep the play-in forever. Drop regular season games. Add the in-season tournament. Overhaul the NBA calendar. No reason to wait. In-season tourney incentives: cash prize, the trophy, wins count toward season standings. Single-elimination and it all matters, just like the play-in.

— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) April 16, 2022

wins count toward the regular season standings... but it's single elimination, just like the play-in. hmm

following on from the recent discussion of injuries etc

the nba being a physical contest will always find a way to push the limits of what the body can do and this will result in injuries.

i don't think shortening the regular season is the answer. sure back to backs should be dropped, but apart from that there would be limited benefit to reducing games further. an nfl player might only see an hour of real action in a full season but will still get totally wrecked in that time. similarly if nba player minutes were restricted across the board you would probably see bigger athletes with more fast twitch muscle who would combust just as frequently, if not more so, and probably more violently. the long regular season as it is has an endurance aspect which might not be apparent to the casual viewer but which really adds to depth of the league.

part of the story behind stars missing games is that the top players are still undercompensated. any team would give kawhi a max even knowing for a fact that he will only play at best 50% of games, because half a kawhi is still worth it. so limiting the impact of injuries (or injury prone players) will need deeper restructing. you're looking at things like a new max contract that allows for much higher dollar amounts but can only be paid out per game played.

most coaches would be happy to run any role player into the ground if it meant a couple more wins, and the disabled player exemption is basically a licence to do just that, so the exemption should be scrapped.

some minor stuff would be allowing more perimeter contact to slow down player movement and expanding the charge circle diameter to the full width of the key.

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the disabled player exception is hard to get and even harder to use effectively. i don't think it has much of an effect on anything.