the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

I liked the conceit of two lowliest characters being the true heroes of the series, and I wish Lucas had made them more self-serving and avaricious like in Hidden Fortress. It would have been neat for the prequels to see them in the employ of Palpatine, then defecting to rebels after some bumbling infraction makes them fear for their lives. Along the way R2 can spot the plans for the Death Star and swipe them hoping for riches on the black market. C3P0 catches him and demands a 60/40 cut and amusing bot slapping ensues.

Hey let's play game -- 70s trilogy or 90s trilogy?

'The loudness, the smash-and-grab editing, the relentless pacing drive every idea from your head; for young audiences “Star Wars” is like getting a box of Cracker Jack which is all prizes.'

'Lucas has got the tone of bad movies down pat: you never catch the actors deliberately acting badly, they just seem to be bad actors'

Ben Burtt invented Swahili?

Ben Burtt invented Swahili?

I was thinking more Huttese.

Burtt also invented Urdu.

that is the kind of technology Lucas should've concentrated on after THX (esp. as he said himself he wanted kids to understand what was going on in the films without having to rely on the dialogue, not that that explains it's general poorness).

― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:47 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

am i crazy or do i not remember lucas talking about how he wanted the prequels to effectively be silent movies, which is why the dialogue is so artless and perfunctory i guess

'The loudness, the smash-and-grab editing, the relentless pacing drive every idea from your head; for young audiences “Star Wars” is like getting a box of Cracker Jack which is all prizes.'

kael quote, so that's the original trilogy imo

Kael actually loved The Empire Strikes Back, disliked SW, and despised the one with the Ewoks.

I've met a fair number of people who have worked with George Lucas at LucasFilm or ILM

I think most everyone here works on ILM! Or at least contributes.

xp 'loved' Empire seems like a stretch, but she rightfully pointed out that it was the most imaginative and artfully made of the movies

there's no star wars poll? like which one of the three is the best? it's #2, right?

of course it's V

a Star Wars poll would just force us to do our routines one more time.

Do you know what, I say "use your HATRED Anakin" all the time. the Viceroy picked up one of those kids picture books that has 10 buttons that make noise and did a PERFECT job recreating III with it. "Use your HATRED Anakin" "I must return to Naboo" "volcano sounds" "I must return to Naboo"

and "NOOOOOO"

a Star Wars poll would just force us to do our routines one more time.

nah-we'd be talking about highlights rather than talking about what makes the new ones suck balls

I wouldn't hold your breath there...

of course it's V

oh right--sorry forgot the crazy number scheme

Half the complaints about Jar Jar and other aliens in the movie would have been taken care of if they'd gone the route with Greedo, Jabba, etc. in the originals and had them speak in Ben Burtt-invented languages with appropriate subtitles, I figure.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:49 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah none of that happens in the prequels does it?! that stuff was so cool. how does a man get so much lest trusting of his audience as he gets older...

A poll of our least favorite bit of Lucas dialogue would be sweet, though.

there's probably more than fifty chunks of bad dialog though

like i'm trying to think of GOOD dialog

some of chewbacca's musings, certainly

flububu

The theatrical rescreening of the original trilogy was a revelation in how blatantly awful Luke was. I was rooting for him to get eaten in the ice cave.

he's our cocky flyboy

I liked that one song the cantina band played

I think any "great dialog" poll is going to be all Han, Leia and Vader with a couple of Lando quotes thrown

laugh it up fuzzball

tbh the only actor who manages to pull off his dialogue 100% convincingly throughout the entire series is alec guinness

which is a miracle if you actually read what he says, rather than listen to him say it

but then again guinness wasn't necessarily reliant upon having a decent director, the dude sleepwalked through that role beautifully

I think most everyone here works on ILM! Or at least contributes.

It's weird to roll one's eyes and laugh out loud at the same time.

how does a man get so much lest trusting of his audience as he gets older...

my guess = did not originally quite conceive of his product as being "for children," was gradually convinced that it was, then later put awkward position of trying to make product that was both "for children" AND "for adult geeks"

interesting theory but mine is that he is a sociopath

hahaha

I think if someone finds an animated GIF of a beardo fucking a gigantic pile of money, you will have a more accurate representation of what was going through Lucas's head

beardo shot first!

I mean I think of the difference between Star Wars and Ewoks really being the drift from "I am making a sort of B-movie sci-fi fun-action epic" to "I am also part of a newish genre of fantastical entertainment children enjoy, so something should be small and fuzzy"

animated GIF of an Ewok fucking a pile of C3PO

also what is the difference between these two things, really? weren't B movies like designed for kids, originally for Saturday afternoons at the Bijou?

I am making a sort of B-movie sci-fi fun-action epic" to "I am also part of a newish genre of fantastical entertainment children enjoy,

You know, they could have played the Ewoks exactly as they did and no one would have complained if they'd added scenes with them eating the fallen Stormtrooper clones.

oh man cannibal Ewoks would be golden

i don't think it's cannibalism if ewoks eat humans. just dinner.

I mean I think of the difference between Star Wars and Ewoks really being the drift from "I want to impress and show up my buddies Steven and Francis" to "I rule and want to make more and more shitloads of money and who cares what anybody thinks"

― nabisco, Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:32 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://evilewoks.ytmnd.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5XG1nSlxuI&feature=related

now imagine them passing around fingers and munching on them in the midst of this

they already have the heads near the beginning of the song, just take that next step and have the human allies kind of afraid of them

http://hawtaction.com/2008/08/20/GeorgeLucas.jpg

http://blog.gamer20.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/george_lucas.jpg

La-de-da-de-dah
KILL THEM
La-de-da-de-dah
EAT NOW
EAT THE HUMAN SCUM
EAT THE HUMAN SCUMMMMMMM!

"Directed by DAVID LYNCH"

i love those fuzzy bastards