extremely otm
― sleeve, Thursday, 29 July 2021 00:58 (two years ago) link
apart from issues of misogyny and the thing we were discussing in the other thread about "off-key" singing being more annoying/noticeable in higher ranges (more associated with female voices) there is really nothing very interesting about this person's work. Like, it doesn't suck badly enough to be impressive, it isn't unique enough to be interesting, and it definitely isn't good or enjoyable, though maybe people think she's hot? idk.
― sarahell, Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link
^more or less OTM. Neither song/video is very compelling from any angle (IMO), and the existence of misogyny on the Internet is hardly a newsflash (though I guess it's reminder #26 this week, for anyone who needs it).
― Low FODMAP* Snack Ideas (morrisp), Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link
It's always weird when one of the millions of randos posting things on the internet suddenly gets the spotlight turned on them for no particular reason. I've certainly seen my share of worse and weirder things that no one seemed to care about.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link
here is another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIsX3Fu3VfQ
― sarahell, Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link
this one is by a guyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VilpAzvSysc
― sarahell, Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:16 (two years ago) link
xpost omg u saw the butthole cut of Cats?!!
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:16 (two years ago) link
if anything, this thread is exhibit a for why we should start WeHole-ing it again
(http://www.wehole.tv/)
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:17 (two years ago) link
Go Bears
― sarahell, Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link
Cast your slings and arrows but she is serving in that dress
― cerebral halsey (rip van wanko), Thursday, 29 July 2021 04:02 (two years ago) link
also this song rips the chorus of "Wildest Dreams" more than anything else
― cerebral halsey (rip van wanko), Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
I would be extremely impressed if someone was able to fake tone deafness to that degree. I think it would actually take extraordinary musical talent to do. At the same time, the video is uncanny because it's just hard to imagine all these people happily participating in this without dying inside at hearing what the song sounds like.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link
But that's kind of the only thing that's interesting about it at all to me - the tension between her polished look and polished video production and the abysmal singing. And it's not *that* interesting and I probably wouldn't have even given it another thought if this thread hadn't popped up. TBF, maybe would have cared more if this happened ten years ago. Social media has kind of numbed me to OMGWTF internet bullshit.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link
Fondly recalling the days when a more innocent nation’s hearts were captured by William Hung (also a Cal student at the time).
― Low FODMAP* Snack Ideas (morrisp), Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link
I just find the dissonances interesting, especially in context, but I will freely acknowledge that I might be overrating it in reaction to the hate.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 29 July 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link
chorus gets lodged in my head every time someone bumps this thread
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 July 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link
Brand(ed) on the brain?
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 29 July 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link
gonna give myself a lobotomy to get the chorus out of my head
― bon ivermectin (Murgatroid), Thursday, 29 July 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link
There's a massive clue at the end of the video.
Sarah dancing in the church, congregation look amused, etc. But, no soundtrack. Just the ambient noises and some shoe squeaking.
I reckon the video was made without the music playing....
― Mark G, Thursday, 29 July 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link
xp, just put this on repeathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll5aPrf2zE0
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 July 2021 21:09 (two years ago) link
the women in the drink rum video definitely put Ms. Brand to shame in the posterior category. Oi mates.
― sarahell, Thursday, 29 July 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link
xxp I never thought of it that way. Maybe the singing is so strange because she recorded it after making the video!
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 30 July 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtBvCF7P9p8
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:22 (two years ago) link
BTW, did you guys know that ILM favorite MAGIC! (of "Rude" fame) also had a single called Red Dress?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaX64o71vGQ
It features the line "hey you with the red dress on / I gotta find a way to take it off." Which I think arguably makes it a significantly worse song than Sarah Brand's Red Dress.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:25 (two years ago) link
that "boring version" cover proves that it's still quite a strange song even when sung in tune
― ufo, Friday, 30 July 2021 03:28 (two years ago) link
it does, and I kind of like it
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link
I'm sure MAGIC! aren't nice people and all but they should all be killed
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:38 (two years ago) link
this makes "Rude" seem like a mere sneeze at the dinner table
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:39 (two years ago) link
Yes, it kind of feels like a Rude b-side. In the worst way.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:50 (two years ago) link
Red Dress is positively tuneful compared to the acoustic version of Fantasy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbOhYhZiyTI
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 30 July 2021 04:22 (two years ago) link
Taylor Swift cover:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kfVskTOsWw
― StanM, Friday, 30 July 2021 07:04 (two years ago) link
She should have taken a little bit more care with hiding her previous videos if she wanted to keep up the idea she can't sing.
Her YT channel has a video of her doing cheerleading practice a few years back with no obvious vocal detriment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RTkyfdXVik
― Stop the tape I got spittle all over my moustache. (Talcum Mucker), Friday, 30 July 2021 07:43 (two years ago) link
From 10:35
https://www.newsweek.com/sarah-brand-red-dress-viral-music-video-rebecca-black-1614254
Newsweek spoke to Gordon Gronbach, the hired freelance filmographer for "Red Dress", who said that there were no hints of the song being a joke on set, but added that he "was not deeply involved in planning before or since," so would be unable to shed light on it being a social experiment of any kind.Instead, he pointed to the video and song simply being a tool for Brand to show her directing skills. "I gathered it was an exercise in becoming a video director," he said. "She did say she wanted to be a director and it was obvious she wasn't a great singer, with a few off notes, but it was okay and I guess she did it for showreel purposes, and so I respect that.""It was funny to have the performer be the director and shout 'cut' but she's very focused and knew what she wanted, and I gave it to her I guess," he added.
Instead, he pointed to the video and song simply being a tool for Brand to show her directing skills. "I gathered it was an exercise in becoming a video director," he said. "She did say she wanted to be a director and it was obvious she wasn't a great singer, with a few off notes, but it was okay and I guess she did it for showreel purposes, and so I respect that."
"It was funny to have the performer be the director and shout 'cut' but she's very focused and knew what she wanted, and I gave it to her I guess," he added.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 30 July 2021 10:47 (two years ago) link
that "boring version" cover proves that it's still quite a strange song even when sung in tune― ufo, jeudi 29 juillet 2021 22:28 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglinkit does, and I kind of like it― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), jeudi 29 juillet 2021 22:36 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― ufo, jeudi 29 juillet 2021 22:28 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), jeudi 29 juillet 2021 22:36 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
It always seemed to me more like a vaguely postpunk indie take on pop-country than an actual stab at pop-country. Iirc, someone found her Spotify and she mostly listens to contemporary indie.
Also, I think these songs are harder to sing than that cheer, in the register she is singing them in.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 30 July 2021 11:26 (two years ago) link
Like, it's lot harder for me to sing "Come Sail Away" in tune than to sing "Losing My Religion" in tune.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 30 July 2021 11:32 (two years ago) link
Her strumming technique makes me almost as queasy as the singing.
― Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Friday, 30 July 2021 11:36 (two years ago) link
also this song rips the chorus of "Wildest Dreams" more than anything else― cerebral halsey (rip van wanko), Thursday, July 29, 2021 10:35 AM
― cerebral halsey (rip van wanko), Thursday, July 29, 2021 10:35 AM
That's it! The line in Wildest Dreams where TS sings "standing in a nice dress" became the seed of this song, maybe even subconsciously.
― enochroot, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:19 (two years ago) link
📹
― Bo Burzum (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 30 July 2021 12:57 (two years ago) link
Sarah’s from Malibu? Industry plant!
― Bo Burzum (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 30 July 2021 12:59 (two years ago) link
That's it! The line in Wildest Dreams where TS sings "standing in a nice dress" became the seed of this song, maybe even subconsciously.― enochroot, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:19 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― enochroot, Friday, 30 July 2021 12:19 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
And, in turn, that part always reminded me of George Ezra's "Are we ridin' shotgun" bit, so..
― Mark G, Friday, 30 July 2021 13:31 (two years ago) link
She loved the nursing home cover.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 30 July 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link
Ok this all makes more sense to me now. The song sounds just enough like a real pop song that I almost thought she had songwriting skills, but there was something "off" about it. So she ripped it from that song and other songs, and the offness is just the filter of her problem ear. She legit can't sing, as evidenced by the other videos. And the goal was more to show off her video skills, which is believable since those seem perfectly competent. Everything else about her just reads way too normie and sincere for this to be a really elaborate pisstake.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 July 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link
I don't understand the rationale: "I'm going to record a terribly-performed song so that everyone focusses on my video direction?" Instead of directing a video for a competent performer?
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 30 July 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link
Because she's probably blissfully unaware of how bad her singing really is and thought it was good enough?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 July 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link
sometimes a person who can't sing is just a person who can't sing.
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 30 July 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link
I don't really think her songwriting skills are less 'competent' than her video skills.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 30 July 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link
She definitely demonstrates basic compositional principles of chord progressions, melodic form, phrase structure, and text setting. There's a quote, intentional or otherwise, of "Wildest Dreams" and/or "Shotgun", but it goes somewhere else with it.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 30 July 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link
I finally realized this morning that her singing reminds me of Odenkirk's. Except that he has very consciously employed his tone-deafness for laffs.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 July 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link
it always comes back to "Mouthful of Sores"
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Friday, 30 July 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link
Well she also covered a Taylor Swift song in the same "style." I guess if it works for someone in that context, it works anywhere.
― Malibu Cheer Chants Forensics (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link
Taylor Swift's own s/t-Fearless-era live performances not always a model of "matching and maintaining" pitch tbf.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
trying to mimic the awkwardness of t-shirt wearing bleacher dwellers iirc
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link
haha
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link
sarah bland
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
She's back!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cITvIxVNAN0
― mike t-diva, Friday, 19 November 2021 15:37 (two years ago) link
on brand
― apparent beef squash (morrisp), Friday, 19 November 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link
Exaggerated Autotune abuse does seem like a good response to the previous flak but still not sure what to make of this; I think I want either the rapping to be better or the production to be more mental.
― treat the gelignite tenderly for me (Sund4r), Friday, 19 November 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link
while she is clearly going for another shitpost, this one isn't weirdly pleasant to listen to
― imago, Friday, 19 November 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
too boxy and irregular to be passed without a bit of tearing
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 20 November 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link
doctor said that when i was born
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 20 November 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link
lightning not gonna strike twice here. whatever her intent was, she's now In On The Joke
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 20 November 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link
Actually I quite like it now, it does get pretty mad by the end
― imago, Saturday, 18 December 2021 09:50 (two years ago) link
Wow, this only happened six months ago and my brain had already scrubbed all memory of the phenomenon
― Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Saturday, 18 December 2021 12:44 (two years ago) link
A marketing genius at work (the question posed at bottom came up as a notification; clicking it led to this, an autoplay video)https://i.imgur.com/YTNoj1v_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
― Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Sunday, 3 July 2022 05:04 (one year ago) link
oh god no
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link
She’s really leaning into a particular angle now (YouTube keeps showing me these clips, I must’ve “subscribed” to her channel)
― Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Sunday, 10 July 2022 06:21 (one year ago) link
this is not goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzIB9ty-Dp0
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link
The song isn’t, but the video’s pretty well done
― Linkin Bio (morrisp), Sunday, 9 October 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link
haven't watched it yet
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link
wow super bad :/ trying too hard
red dress remains a classic
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 10 October 2022 12:50 (one year ago) link
actually a decent parody of how loads of current pop songs sample metal guitars to be edgy
― imago, Monday, 10 October 2022 13:01 (one year ago) link