Rebecca Black is having a career resurgence
― akm, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
Next up: Rebecca Black vs Sarah Brand, THE POLL.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link
Whether there is a valid comparison between the two was also a topic of discussion.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link
Posting on a devoted Sarah Brand thread might require more fortitude than I possess, I have to consider.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link
it's an extremely lazy comparison
― imago, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link
The video is on a Marissa thread
― Mark G, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link
I posted that. it is also on the Rebecca black thread. I see no reason not to have a Sarah Brand standalone thread
― akm, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link
It was fun to think about for a day or so, but honestly I'm a little concerned about you guys at this point, lol
― Low FODMAP* Snack Ideas (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link
I'm not sure why. I guess you just fail to understand that Sarah Brand has shown us the New Way, that her voice is the Key and her song the Door, that playing her video on an endless loop is the only way to avoid hopping on the devil fest along with all of the other Disgust Judges. I feel sorry for you tbrr.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link
Red Dress (Extended Version) - Sarah Brand (ft Josh Kiszka)
― Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link
some people need to stop judging in disgust
― maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link
this video is on the Kanye thread
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 19:09 (two years ago) link
it was manifestly obvious on the first listen that it was deliberate. she is hitting the same notes over and over again― imago, Wednesday, July 28, 2021 11:10 AM bookmarkflaglinkdoesn't really prove anything tbh - one can be off-key in a consistent way without intentionally doing so. I have a friend who for some reason can never find the correct key for "Don't Cry for Me Argentina" at karaoke night and she consistently sings the same wrong notes, but she's not trying to! and she's a legit singer.― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), mercredi 28 juillet 2021 12:57 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglinkwhat am i doin' heeeeeeeee(*earth tilts off its axis and spins into infinite darkness*)eeeeeeeeeere― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), mercredi 28 juillet 2021 12:59 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglinkthe other thing is she wrote the song, and there are definitely people that can mimic other people's songs, but can't actually tell that what they're writing doesn't fit the key they're in. also people who aren't used to using melisma and don't have a good ear often melisma into Allan Holdsworth territory― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), mercredi 28 juillet 2021 13:06 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Wednesday, July 28, 2021 11:10 AM bookmarkflaglink
doesn't really prove anything tbh - one can be off-key in a consistent way without intentionally doing so. I have a friend who for some reason can never find the correct key for "Don't Cry for Me Argentina" at karaoke night and she consistently sings the same wrong notes, but she's not trying to! and she's a legit singer.
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), mercredi 28 juillet 2021 12:57 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
what am i doin' heeeeeeeee(*earth tilts off its axis and spins into infinite darkness*)eeeeeeeeeere
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), mercredi 28 juillet 2021 12:59 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
the other thing is she wrote the song, and there are definitely people that can mimic other people's songs, but can't actually tell that what they're writing doesn't fit the key they're in. also people who aren't used to using melisma and don't have a good ear often melisma into Allan Holdsworth territory
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), mercredi 28 juillet 2021 13:06 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link
Instead of negging on her we should be thanking her for all of the new notes she invented. A true musical pioneer.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link
everything else suddenly sounds out of tune now
― StanM, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link
i swear if you fuckers get her in the top 77
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link
Judging by the other thread, I'm already mentally bracing myself for her #22 placement in the 77. Hopefully by then it'll just require a stifled gag instead of a full throated barfing.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link
Hey, Grimes got to #1 and all I did was make fun of her Tiktoks.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link
so she's a sociology grad student at Oxford, hmmm
― sleeve, Thursday, 29 July 2021 00:32 (two years ago) link
She went to Cal… Go Bears.
― Low FODMAP* Snack Ideas (morrisp), Thursday, 29 July 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link
My expectation is still that this has more to her do with her interest in religion and politics than some kind of meta-troll/study but I do think there's something, uh, sociologically interesting about the level of vitriol and condescension in the Youtube comments she's gotten over the last few days, just for singing out of tune - in self-made videos by a previously unknown grad student, done afaict with borrowed equipment. There seems to be a belief that she's wealthy, spoiled, and narcissistic, and needs to be taken down a peg, none of which has been substantiated afaik.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 29 July 2021 00:55 (two years ago) link
extremely otm
― sleeve, Thursday, 29 July 2021 00:58 (two years ago) link
apart from issues of misogyny and the thing we were discussing in the other thread about "off-key" singing being more annoying/noticeable in higher ranges (more associated with female voices) there is really nothing very interesting about this person's work. Like, it doesn't suck badly enough to be impressive, it isn't unique enough to be interesting, and it definitely isn't good or enjoyable, though maybe people think she's hot? idk.
― sarahell, Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link
^more or less OTM. Neither song/video is very compelling from any angle (IMO), and the existence of misogyny on the Internet is hardly a newsflash (though I guess it's reminder #26 this week, for anyone who needs it).
― Low FODMAP* Snack Ideas (morrisp), Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link
It's always weird when one of the millions of randos posting things on the internet suddenly gets the spotlight turned on them for no particular reason. I've certainly seen my share of worse and weirder things that no one seemed to care about.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link
here is another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIsX3Fu3VfQ
― sarahell, Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link
this one is by a guyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VilpAzvSysc
― sarahell, Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:16 (two years ago) link
xpost omg u saw the butthole cut of Cats?!!
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:16 (two years ago) link
if anything, this thread is exhibit a for why we should start WeHole-ing it again
(http://www.wehole.tv/)
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:17 (two years ago) link
Go Bears
― sarahell, Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link
Cast your slings and arrows but she is serving in that dress
― cerebral halsey (rip van wanko), Thursday, 29 July 2021 04:02 (two years ago) link
also this song rips the chorus of "Wildest Dreams" more than anything else
― cerebral halsey (rip van wanko), Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
I would be extremely impressed if someone was able to fake tone deafness to that degree. I think it would actually take extraordinary musical talent to do. At the same time, the video is uncanny because it's just hard to imagine all these people happily participating in this without dying inside at hearing what the song sounds like.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link
But that's kind of the only thing that's interesting about it at all to me - the tension between her polished look and polished video production and the abysmal singing. And it's not *that* interesting and I probably wouldn't have even given it another thought if this thread hadn't popped up. TBF, maybe would have cared more if this happened ten years ago. Social media has kind of numbed me to OMGWTF internet bullshit.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 29 July 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link
Fondly recalling the days when a more innocent nation’s hearts were captured by William Hung (also a Cal student at the time).
― Low FODMAP* Snack Ideas (morrisp), Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link
I just find the dissonances interesting, especially in context, but I will freely acknowledge that I might be overrating it in reaction to the hate.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 29 July 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link
chorus gets lodged in my head every time someone bumps this thread
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 July 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link
Brand(ed) on the brain?
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 29 July 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link
gonna give myself a lobotomy to get the chorus out of my head
― bon ivermectin (Murgatroid), Thursday, 29 July 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link
There's a massive clue at the end of the video.
Sarah dancing in the church, congregation look amused, etc. But, no soundtrack. Just the ambient noises and some shoe squeaking.
I reckon the video was made without the music playing....
― Mark G, Thursday, 29 July 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link
xp, just put this on repeathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll5aPrf2zE0
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 July 2021 21:09 (two years ago) link
the women in the drink rum video definitely put Ms. Brand to shame in the posterior category. Oi mates.
― sarahell, Thursday, 29 July 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link
xxp I never thought of it that way. Maybe the singing is so strange because she recorded it after making the video!
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 30 July 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtBvCF7P9p8
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:22 (two years ago) link
BTW, did you guys know that ILM favorite MAGIC! (of "Rude" fame) also had a single called Red Dress?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaX64o71vGQ
It features the line "hey you with the red dress on / I gotta find a way to take it off." Which I think arguably makes it a significantly worse song than Sarah Brand's Red Dress.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:25 (two years ago) link
that "boring version" cover proves that it's still quite a strange song even when sung in tune
― ufo, Friday, 30 July 2021 03:28 (two years ago) link
it does, and I kind of like it
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:36 (two years ago) link
I'm sure MAGIC! aren't nice people and all but they should all be killed
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:38 (two years ago) link
this makes "Rude" seem like a mere sneeze at the dinner table
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:39 (two years ago) link
Yes, it kind of feels like a Rude b-side. In the worst way.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:50 (two years ago) link
ok, after listening to the interview I am also now On Team Sarah, however not to the extent of actually wanting to listen to her music.
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 31 July 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link
ILM precovers surely
― in a bar, under the (seandalai), Sunday, 1 August 2021 01:48 (two years ago) link
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-58047513.amp
― Mark G, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 09:21 (two years ago) link
Basically, they've found her and she answers the question.....
― Mark G, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 12:54 (two years ago) link
wow what a head-fake!
― making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link
I note that she does not say if the song was related to her academic work.
― Bo Burzum (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 13:55 (two years ago) link
if she's singing deliberately poorly as an artistic statement related to the 'outsider' theme of her lyrics then that's really good because of how strange a move it is
― ufo, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 14:04 (two years ago) link
There are also the non–Red Dress songs where her singing is just as weird, so…(?)
― Malibu Cheer Chants Forensics (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link
She doesn't know how to sing and is cleverly making the best of it.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link
(btw, she has an awesome attitude)
― Malibu Cheer Chants Forensics (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link
― Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 14:15 (two years ago) link
Yeah, she's completely upfront. xps:
She admitted to the BBC that she is "no professional singer".She added: "The style in which I sing the song was important because it reflected the story."The vocals don't seem to quite fit, they seem out of place and they make people uncomfortable... and the video is this outsider doing things differently and causing discomfort and eliciting all this judgement."
She added: "The style in which I sing the song was important because it reflected the story."The vocals don't seem to quite fit, they seem out of place and they make people uncomfortable... and the video is this outsider doing things differently and causing discomfort and eliciting all this judgement."
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link
Unless all of her songs are sung from the point of view of an "outsider doing things differently and causing discomfort", it's an ex post facto justification - but I still love the way she's fronting.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link
otm
― Malibu Cheer Chants Forensics (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link
Well I was expecting something unlistenable but this is quite pleasant. I like her voice.
― Noel Emits, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link
It extent of the kerfuffle really does say something about expectations, in terms of how little pitch deviation is allowed into pop productions, and maybe in how it's been further discovered in the context of being "bad." It might be pushing it slightly but it's not *that* bad and I think it is actually enjoyable. Old man says this is infinitely preferable to excessive autotune.
― Noel Emits, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ptQatdjOFM
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link
I mean, whether you like it or not is absolutely a subjective thing but I maintain that "has the ability to match and maintain pitch in the context of a non-dissonant backing track" isn't an unreasonable expectation to have of a pop singer.
― Karl Havoc (DJP), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link
Sure, but what remains is the response to that expectation being somewhat confounded.
― Noel Emits, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link
The dissonance can still work that way even when it's not the lyrical theme. I think the way she uses it in "Fantasy" has a surreal quality, which again fits.
Old man says this is infinitely preferable to excessive autotune.
OTM
I mean, DJP is right, of course - I wouldn't want every singer to sound like this - and this only works because there is a norm that this is defying.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link
She's also only a 'pop singer' in the broad sense of the term that would also include Danielson Famile's singers. These are self-released indie songs.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link
Well she also covered a Taylor Swift song in the same "style." I guess if it works for someone in that context, it works anywhere.
― Malibu Cheer Chants Forensics (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link
Taylor Swift's own s/t-Fearless-era live performances not always a model of "matching and maintaining" pitch tbf.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
trying to mimic the awkwardness of t-shirt wearing bleacher dwellers iirc
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link
haha
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link
sarah bland
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
She's back!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cITvIxVNAN0
― mike t-diva, Friday, 19 November 2021 15:37 (two years ago) link
on brand
― apparent beef squash (morrisp), Friday, 19 November 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link
Exaggerated Autotune abuse does seem like a good response to the previous flak but still not sure what to make of this; I think I want either the rapping to be better or the production to be more mental.
― treat the gelignite tenderly for me (Sund4r), Friday, 19 November 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link
while she is clearly going for another shitpost, this one isn't weirdly pleasant to listen to
― imago, Friday, 19 November 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
too boxy and irregular to be passed without a bit of tearing
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 20 November 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link
doctor said that when i was born
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 20 November 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link
lightning not gonna strike twice here. whatever her intent was, she's now In On The Joke
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 20 November 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link
Actually I quite like it now, it does get pretty mad by the end
― imago, Saturday, 18 December 2021 09:50 (two years ago) link
Wow, this only happened six months ago and my brain had already scrubbed all memory of the phenomenon
― Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Saturday, 18 December 2021 12:44 (two years ago) link
A marketing genius at work (the question posed at bottom came up as a notification; clicking it led to this, an autoplay video)https://i.imgur.com/YTNoj1v_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
― Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Sunday, 3 July 2022 05:04 (one year ago) link
oh god no
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link
She’s really leaning into a particular angle now (YouTube keeps showing me these clips, I must’ve “subscribed” to her channel)
― Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Sunday, 10 July 2022 06:21 (one year ago) link
this is not goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzIB9ty-Dp0
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link
The song isn’t, but the video’s pretty well done
― Linkin Bio (morrisp), Sunday, 9 October 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link
haven't watched it yet
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link
wow super bad :/ trying too hard
red dress remains a classic
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 10 October 2022 12:50 (one year ago) link
actually a decent parody of how loads of current pop songs sample metal guitars to be edgy
― imago, Monday, 10 October 2022 13:01 (one year ago) link